High Exposure 5,661 Posted June 25, 2013 But... But... But... this is Millburn, a safe place! This can't happen there! I only need to be prepared to protect myself in Newark or Camden! At the very least I pocket carry in my house when I am in my home, mowing my lawn, walking my dog out front or playing outside with my kid. I have responded to/investigated these instances enough to have no illusions regarding "safe towns" or "it can't happen here". Violent crime that involves true victims (vs A-hole on A-hole crime or OTH/NHI crimes) is unpredictable. It can happen anywhere, any time, and with a quickness that will astound most who have never experienced it. These are the types of stories that make me wonder when people say "I only carry in bad neighborhoods" or "I don't need to worry here because my town is a safe place with virtually no crime." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravozulu14 0 Posted June 25, 2013 ^ this x1000000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted June 25, 2013 “Attacked by an intruder who did not care she was unarmed.” How stupid. Of course he cared that she was unarmed, he would have fled had she been armed!! It's pretty freaking funny to watch all the gun haters going batshit about this on facebook while I calmly strap on my gun... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted June 25, 2013 wow.....that mother is something else and I tip my hat off to her for taking it the way she did as to not scare the child further. thug low life deserves to be blowtorched to death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,679 Posted June 25, 2013 I just hope that no one dare step out of line and mention that the black community is in dire need of both societal reassessment and also accountability. Apparently most either don't care or are scared to speak out, and certainly no one will demand better for all of us. Fact is that "people" just like him terrorize the innocent every day and no one will say so because we don't want to hurt their feelings. Brilliant strategy, one which is clearly working out well for the country as a whole indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PDM 91 Posted June 25, 2013 I only carried at home during Sandy. Gonna rethink that. Takes an extra minute to open the safe and grab the Ruger LCR in a pocket holster. After all, you never need a gun ... until you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted June 25, 2013 Haven't bother to watch the video. I bet that if she has an FID and she now applies for a carry permit she will still get DENIED! This sort of crime needs to happen to the judges and politicians in this state, then maybe they will wake th phuck up and realize the rest of the country has it RIGHT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted June 25, 2013 ....... This sort of crime needs to happen to the judges and politicians in this state....... They're connected and can get a carry permit. They are uninterested in us common folks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChadShaft 0 Posted June 25, 2013 I only carried at home during Sandy. Gonna rethink that. Takes an extra minute to open the safe and grab the Ruger LCR in a pocket holster. After all, you never need a gun ... until you do. I carry 99% of the time at home. I know some people think that's silly, but it's things like this. When I go away for I make sure my girl sleeps with her Glock in or in the night stand. The other day i was doing yard work and my Sig was definitely hanging out of my waist band while I was bending over for all the neighbors to see and I was a little worried. But then I figured it's my property, it's my family's safety. I know for a fact that the old man that lived in the house before me was robbed twice and we've twice has strangers knocking on the door at odd times (the same MO they used to rob the old man) so I think I'll just keep carrying. It doesn't matter where you live, if somebody really wants something you have, they'll try to take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted June 25, 2013 I carry at home except when the kids and I are playing rough. Don't want a ND. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Musiqsoul84 0 Posted June 25, 2013 This video make me want to throw the fu*k up. I have small kids and a stay at home wife it hits to close to home. I thank GOD for my 150 pound rottweiler. I hope this a&&hole rots in hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted June 25, 2013 But... But... But... this is Millburn, a safe place! This can't happen there! I only need to be prepared to protect myself in Newark or Camden! At the very least I pocket carry in my house when I am in my home, mowing my lawn, walking my dog out front or playing outside with my kid. I have responded to/investigated these instances enough to have no illusions regarding "safe towns" or "it can't happen here". Violent crime that involves true victims (vs A-hole on A-hole crime or OTH/NHI crimes) is unpredictable. It can happen anywhere, any time, and with a quickness that will astound most who have never experienced it. These are the types of stories that make me wonder when people say "I only carry in bad neighborhoods" or "I don't need to worry here because my town is a safe place with virtually no crime." PREACH!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted June 25, 2013 yet another home invasion, this time a woman who was selling yardsale items in Fairfield Township. This was on NJSP facebook a hour ago Help Solve a Home Invasion Robbery By Looking at New Suspect SketchFairfield Township, Cumberland County, N.J. -- Okay Facebook family, let's try to solve this home invastion. See below:Troopers and detectives from the Bridgeton State Police Barracks are investigating a home invasion robbery and asking for the public's help to identify a suspect based on a new sketch.On Friday, June 7, two or three black males arrived at a home on Bridgeton-Millville Pike in the Gouldtown section of Fairfield Township. They asked the woman at the home about purchasing an item for sale in a yard sale. The suspects entered the residence, assaulted woman, who was home alone at the time, tied her to a kitchen chair and then proceeded to ransack her home. The suspects reportedly stole numerous items including jewelry, cash, coins, and numerous other valuables before fleeing the area.One suspect was described as a light skin black male with a shaved head, approximately 5’6” tall with an average build was driving an older model red car, possibly a Toyota Tercel. A State Police sketch artist just completed a composite drawing of that suspect, which is attached. The second suspect was described as having a medium dark complexion with long braids pulled back into a pony tail and also having an average build.Anyone with information that would assist in the identification of the suspects involved is asked to contact the NJSP Bridgeton Station detectives at (856) 451-0101. Callers may remain anonymous.### Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
18Steel 11 Posted June 25, 2013 Phucking savage I wish him the worst possible death. Hard to watch when you have a wife and kids and think this can happen anywhere. My 8 year old son saw this at his friends house and came to me visibly upset as was I that he saw it. I tried to console him and let him know I am here to protect him. But I know the visual and mental scar is still there. I fear the world and country my children will have to grow up in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted June 25, 2013 He opened front door to leave. No gloves. No prints on this guy ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred2 367 Posted June 25, 2013 Looks like the Milburn PD is going to be pretty busy working on new Firearms ID card applications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illy 1 Posted June 25, 2013 I will holster carry outside, but in house I keep a pistol ready to go in short reach. yup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike 14 Posted June 25, 2013 there are no words to explain how i feel .But every time they try to shove another feel good law thru assembly this video should play and then votes should be casted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted June 25, 2013 For everyone who has criticized me for always being holstered up at home.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted June 25, 2013 There are many different versions of this video edited. Anybody who says she wouldn't have had time to get to a weapon is only seeing the edited videos. She was left alone several times as he scoured the house. If there was a gun on the first floor she could have gotten to it. Although her capacity to use it effectively would be unknown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted June 25, 2013 Just as an FYI to the membership, daytime burglaries in nicer neighborhoods are happening more and more frequently. I wonder if this guy meant to do a HI or if this was an intended burglary that become a HI of "Opportunity" when the perp realized there was only a woman and child home. These burglaries are typically happening during weekday days when victims and potential witnesses (neighbors) are most likely out or at work. The MO is as follows: They are never alone. One of them will knock on the front door a few times. If someone answers they will ask for "Tom" or "John" or "whomever" and give an excuse for why they may have the wrong address before leaving. If this happens to you, call the local Police as soon as they leave and give a good description and direction of travel. If no one answers the door after a couple of knocks they will go to the backyard and smash a window/kick in a door then hide someplace with a decent view of the area of the house they just vandalized and wait for 10-15 minutes. If no one comes to investigate the broken door/window, no cops come, etc... they will then enter the residence and take what they want. Protect your home with an alarm, motion sensing lights, and a dog if possible. Keep valuables away from wondows and out of view of the deont door if possible. Lock your doors regardless of how "safe" you block/neighborhood/town is. Be alert to strange cars and people in your neighborhood. Watch for your neighbors and ask them to do the same for you. Call the Police if anything seems off. Trust your gut. Most people have a decent "Spidey Sense" but few act on it when it tingles until it is too late. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "I knew that guy was up to no good" or "I thought it was strange that car was parked there" I could have retired a millionaire a long time ago. I know I am happy to come and speak to any homeowner in my town who calls and try to find anyone reported as suspicious and investigate. I have grabbed quite a few good arrests following up on "Suspicious Persons" calls and have been able to lock up a couple of burglars with proceeds/property still on their person. He opened front door to leave. No gloves. No prints on this guy ? You would be surprised at the very few number of surfaces in your home that will actually retain prints and how few of those you can actually lift them back off of. Doorknobs are particularly hard because they have so many sets of prints stacked on top of each other. It is almost impossible to isolate and lift just one print from all those layers of older prints below. Even if they can get prints off that surface and he isn't in the system the prints won't help catch him, but they may help convict him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babyface Finster 45 Posted June 25, 2013 Although her capacity to use it effectively would be unknown There's as good a chance as not that if she pointed a gun at this scumbag he would have run off like a scalded cat. Not that I disagree with you, I know a few people with a handgun in the house that have never fired it. Not a good scenario to be sure. Damn, I find myself getting angrier by the minute after watching that video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HolyHandGrenade 0 Posted June 25, 2013 This has FINALLY convinced my Fiancé to keep the safe unlocked when I'm not here... Normally, I put my G35 back in and lock it when I leave for work. Not anymore... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 25, 2013 For everyone who has criticized me for always being holstered up at home.... I was catching daily insults here from your brothers before you graduated the academy. I'm a punching bag from way back. I'm like the OG of NJGF West Side low key. It's funny how attitudes can change. Not due to changes in facts. Not due to right or wrong or good or bad. Not due to statistics. It always comes down to a lack of familiarity and generations of false premises. It always comes down to the last few million people in the country that don't understand that firearms are normal, as is carry thereof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SafetyHit 1 Posted June 26, 2013 ???? My apologies to you sir if I wasn't clear. You see groups as well as individuals must be held reasonably accountable for their actions, this especially so if their actions have a negative effect upon those around them. What we often see right here in NJ is that once the black community establishes a foothold in a particular area, the crime rate dramatically increases accordingly. This is a matter of fact and not my personal opinion. This dysfunction costs everyone around them, primarily their fellow blacks. In fact the most unfortunate are often the innocent children forced to grow up under such difficult and dangerous circumstances. Then we have business owners who flee the specified regions, damaging the local economy even further. The problem also costs the taxpayer who is literally forced to help sustain many of these unsavory individuals via entitlement programs. So you see my friend, when we simply look at fact only we can clearly discern a problem. And while we have the rare likes of a Bill Cosby who may be willing to tell it like it is, he is not only chastised but also far from the norm in that regard. Most blacks believe it to be taboo to speak out against the problem, the very same one that costs them the most. Is that due to fear or perhaps might it be due to simple complacency? Well either way sir the rest of us need not be so complacent, especially when we see a fellow citizen, particularly in this case an innocent mother being savagely pummeled in front of her small, terrified child. I've always been taught that the only way to fix what is broken is to begin by identifying what it is causing the problem and then take sensible steps to fix it. Yet if we continue to ignore or cast blame on inanimate objects (firearms) in regard to issues within the black community, what might make anyone anywhere suspect things will ever change for the better? So in closing my friend I'll simply state that just as I should be obligated to expose and hold accountable a dysfunctional, dangerous relative who is a danger to those around him, the black community should be compelled to say enough is enough. Both for the sake of the good citizens within the community (of which I acknowledge there are very many) and again also the innocent children who deserve better as they grow up. I hope that explanation may have been of some help to you. Have a good evening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted June 26, 2013 Just as an FYI to the membership, daytime burglaries in nicer neighborhoods are happening more and more frequently. I wonder if this guy meant to do a HI or if this was an intended burglary that become a HI of "Opportunity" when the perp realized there was only a woman and child home. These burglaries are typically happening during weekday days when victims and potential witnesses (neighbors) are most likely out or at work. The MO is as follows: They are never alone. One of them will knock on the front door a few times. If someone answers they will ask for "Tom" or "John" or "whomever" and give an excuse for why they may have the wrong address before leaving. If this happens to you, call the local Police as soon as they leave and give a good description and direction of travel. If no one answers the door after a couple of knocks they will go to the backyard and smash a window/kick in a door then hide someplace with a decent view of the area of the house they just vandalized and wait for 10-15 minutes. If no one comes to investigate the broken door/window, no cops come, etc... they will then enter the residence and take what they want. Protect your home with an alarm, motion sensing lights, and a dog if possible. Keep valuables away from wondows and out of view of the deont door if possible. Lock your doors regardless of how "safe" you block/neighborhood/town is. Be alert to strange cars and people in your neighborhood. Watch for your neighbors and ask them to do the same for you. Call the Police if anything seems off. Trust your gut. Most people have a decent "Spidey Sense" but few act on it when it tingles until it is too late. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "I knew that guy was up to no good" or "I thought it was strange that car was parked there" I could have retired a millionaire a long time ago. I know I am happy to come and speak to any homeowner in my town who calls and try to find anyone reported as suspicious and investigate. I have grabbed quite a few good arrests following up on "Suspicious Persons" calls and have been able to lock up a couple of burglars with proceeds/property still on their person. You would be surprised at the very few number of surfaces in your home that will actually retain prints and how few of those you can actually lift them back off of. Doorknobs are particularly hard because they have so many sets of prints stacked on top of each other. It is almost impossible to isolate and lift just one print from all those layers of older prints below. Even if they can get prints off that surface and he isn't in the system the prints won't help catch him, but they may help convict him. good to know and thanks....especially so with kids being off for summer break and only the grandparents or wife to watch over them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAYLOR MADE 0 Posted June 26, 2013 This video really puts a lump in your throat, knowing that this could easily be your family that this has happened too. I have never property carried before, but this seals the deal. This should also be conformation that this can happen anytime anywhere (if you didn't already know). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leahcim 679 Posted June 26, 2013 Thanks for the descriptive from High Exposure--my wife always has an eye out for suspicious behavior and people that look like they are up to no good. I have considered carry in the house and on my land, definitely going to buy some good holsters and start carrying in the home and on the property now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted June 26, 2013 This is why I have a big dog near by. He would certainly bide me some time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevD 0 Posted June 26, 2013 My apologies to you sir if I wasn't clear. You see groups as well as individuals must be held reasonably accountable for their actions, this especially so if their actions have a negative effect upon those around them. What we often see right here in NJ is that once the black community establishes a foothold in a particular area, the crime rate dramatically increases accordingly. This is a matter of fact and not my personal opinion. This dysfunction costs everyone around them, primarily their fellow blacks. In fact the most unfortunate are often the innocent children forced to grow up under such difficult and dangerous circumstances. Then we have business owners who flee the specified regions, damaging the local economy even further. The problem also costs the taxpayer who is literally forced to help sustain many of these unsavory individuals via entitlement programs. So you see my friend, when we simply look at fact only we can clearly discern a problem. And while we have the rare likes of a Bill Cosby who may be willing to tell it like it is, he is not only chastised but also far from the norm in that regard. Most blacks believe it to be taboo to speak out against the problem, the very same one that costs them the most. Is that due to fear or perhaps might it be due to simple complacency? Well either way sir the rest of us need not be so complacent, especially when we see a fellow citizen, particularly in this case an innocent mother being savagely pummeled in front of her small, terrified child. I've always been taught that the only way to fix what is broken is to begin by identifying what it is causing the problem and then take sensible steps to fix it. Yet if we continue to ignore or cast blame on inanimate objects (firearms) in regard to issues within the black community, what might make anyone anywhere suspect things will ever change for the better? So in closing my friend I'll simply state that just as I should be obligated to expose and hold accountable a dysfunctional, dangerous relative who is a danger to those around him, the black community should be compelled to say enough is enough. Both for the sake of the good citizens within the community (of which I acknowledge there are very many) and again also the innocent children who deserve better as they grow up. I hope that explanation may have been of some help to you. Have a good evening. Agreed lets stop pretending the problem isnt the problem.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites