NJ CCW qualification

[ryan_j 0]

What is it like in NJ for non-LEO? Let's say the second coming happened and I became eligible for a civilian NJ CCW permit.

 

Yes, I know, I will likely hit the lotto first, but please just entertain my curiousity.

 

I was told it's 50 shots at 7, 15 and 25 yards? What about scores, how much? 

[Purple Patrick 638]

Unless your currently sexting with an nj politician than good luck

[ryan_j 0]

Unless your currently sexting with an nj politician than good luck

 

 

Yeah yeah, I know that. I am not talking about justifiable need. I know mere mortals like myself will never meet that standard. 

 

I am just curious as to what the range qualification was, compared to say, Texas where if you can hit the broad side of a barn you're good. 

[GRIZ 3,369]

For RPO permit same course LEOs shoot. Same target. 60 rds and you need 80%. 50 rd course for 5 shot guns. Also 40 rds reduced light.

[ryan_j 0]

For RPO permit same course LEOs shoot. Same target. 60 rds and you need 80%. 50 rd course for 5 shot guns. Also 40 rds reduced light.

 

OK but it's the same for private individuals? My understanding is that their qualification is tailored to LEOSA. 

[GRIZ 3,369]

OK but it's the same for private individuals? My understanding is that their qualification is tailored to LEOSA.

 

The RPO permit came out in NJ before LEOSA. I think its the same for regular carry permits.

[ryan_j 0]

The RPO permit came out in NJ before LEOSA. I think its the same for regular carry permits.

 

Good to know. Thanks. 

 

I am just curious because I am interested to see how many roadblocks NJ puts up. I practice regularly and I am sure I could do the qualification easily but some might fail it and they could use that to weed out people, just in case they do get a "justifiable need."

 

With that, I have no idea why they claim that CCW will cause accidents when their qualification procedure is a higher standard than other states who do not have that standard.

 

I can only hope that one day I can actually go through the qual to get my permit... right after I get my unicorn hunting license, lol.

[Alex V 99]

it it's some kind of LEO standard, I am sure most will not have a problem passing the requirement.  I have seen how LEO's shoot... if they can do it, a retard with half a gimpy hand can as well. 

[blksheep 466]

it it's some kind of LEO standard, I am sure most will not have a problem passing the requirement. I have seen how LEO's shoot... if they can do it, a retard with half a gimpy hand can as well.

I would love for you to put your money where your mouth is.

[blksheep 466]

[GRIZ 3,369]

I would love for you to put your money where your mouth is.

Me too.

[redwings9 5]

i'll take some of that will even just shoot weak hand only............

[iCARRY 0]

I would love for you to put your money where your mouth is.

Lmao. I can always wager some money on this too.

[dave545 15]

shoot ill join in as well im up for some competition

[blksheep 466]

Lets set it up

[iCARRY 0]

25 yards in, timed, hole must be touching inside of silhouette, 60 rounds day and 40 rounds simulated night fire, must achieve 80% on both courses. Sounds like fun to me.

[ryan_j 0]

25 yards in, timed, hole must be touching inside of silhouette, 60 rounds day and 40 rounds simulated night fire, must achieve 80% on both courses. Sounds like fun to me.

 

 

Well yeah that sounds like a typical range session to me. 

[Alex V 99]

LOL.  I actualy shoot better single handed weak side.

 

I could be up for this, just not sure how we can simulate night time?  I doubt any range will turn the lights off...

 

I am almost positive most on this forum/thread can qualify to those standards. 

 

Like I said, I have seen numerous LEO's shoot, they are not exactly Vasily Zaytsev.

 

The requirement is to get 48 hits on an FBI Q target...  that is esentialy the size of a human tourso.  Nothing about holes "toughing"

 

From the 25 yard position you have 30 seconds to make 4 hits from keeling and above cover/strong side of cover.  If that is the hardest part, its not too hard.  Sorry guys.The closer in faster shooting does sound like fun tho.

[olderguy 0]

Time for Gunforhire to set up a competition :icon_mrgreen:

[ryan_j 0]

GFH actually does the qualification. Hmm. I wonder if they can do a charity match. Proceeds to the lonegan campaign for senate. 

[olderguy 0]

GFH actually does the qualification. Hmm. I wonder if they can do a charity match. Proceeds to the lonegan campaign for senate. 

Sounds like a plan.          ANTHONY!

[redwings9 5]

We can wear black out glasses, bring your weak hand ........

[gunforhire 826]

Lets do it!

[olderguy 0]

Lets do it!

Build it and they will come.  I have 3 ready.

[Alex V 99]

Attached is the full course of fire for this quali.

 

Sounds like fun, but not something that will be imposible for a pricticed fireamrs owner to complete.

 

firearms qualifications - pistol.pdf

[blksheep 466]

I'm in...

[silverado427 10,681]

it it's some kind of LEO standard, I am sure most will not have a problem passing the requirement.  I have seen how LEO's shoot... if they can do it, a retard with half a gimpy hand can as well. 

That was funny.

[Vini 0]

Is it me, or something is seriously wrong with this forum? 

Somehow NJ civilians with CCW stay away from this place. 

Look, we live in state with 99% (or something like that) CCW approval, yet no one can answer simple OP question about NJ CCW qualification and say something like "done it, not a big deal"...

 

 

 

 

 

</sarcasm>

 

[Alex V 99]

That was funny.

 

glad I can amuse :-D

 

I am sure the NYPD course of fire to qualify is not far different, have not looked it up yet, but let's not forget this:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/22/nypd-sued-over-shooting-at-empire-state-building/

 

You can say the LEO's were under stress...

 

But if they passed the NYPD quali, and still hit 8 bystanders...

 

Simple math, NYPD Quali ≈ NJ Quali = Pass = shot 8 bystanders; Quali ≠ Good Marksmanship; Quali = Not Too Hard

 

:-D

[Russell 3]

All you have to do is hit anywhere on the FBI Q target?