JayM26 0 Posted September 8, 2013 Did some searching but didn't find anything concrete. I think this could be done and next step was to get in touch with my local FFL just to be sure but thought I'd ask here. I am interested in buying a gun from an FFL on Gunbroker. Price is pretty decent. I should have my FID and P2P's in my hand within the next month (I hope!). I know how crazy Jersey is with dates - 30 day rule etc so this got me thinking. If I buy this pistol and it ships to my FFL now and he holds it until I get my P2P, am I still within the law? Does this earlier sale date or purchase from the selling FFL to me raise an illegal issue and red flag for when I complete the transfer through my local FFL say in a month from now? If so, as a second option I can always just pay and have the selling FFL hold the pistol for me and tell him to ship it when the P2P's are in my hand. I'd prefer to have my local FFL already have the pistol in his hands when I get the P2P's though. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted September 8, 2013 100% NJ legal. The only date that matters is when you call NICS and you take possession. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dtown223 12 Posted September 8, 2013 I've personally done this on more than one occasion Your FFL may charge you a storage fee, but otherwise, you're GTG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayM26 0 Posted September 8, 2013 100% NJ legal. The only date that matters is when you call NICS and you take possession. Thanks lunker! Answer I was hoping for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayM26 0 Posted September 8, 2013 I've personally done this on more than one occasion Your FFL may charge you a storage fee, but otherwise, you're GTG Thank you too Dave. Storage?..wow on a 16" x 16" case? I would hope not. He's doing the transfer and NICS for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted September 8, 2013 But if a lot of customers do as you do, a lot of the dealer's space is taken up. Some people procrastinate and wait months to pick up their item. Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted September 8, 2013 But if a lot of customers do as you do, a lot of the dealer's space is taken up. Some people procrastinate and wait months to pick up their item. Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2 And PD's procrastinate and wait months to complete your pp paper work creating the whole problem to begin with.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 8, 2013 And PD's procrastinate and wait months to complete your pp paper work creating the whole problem to begin with.. And the state makes us procrastinate with this idiotic OGAM law. Took me 3 months to get 3 permits which will take me another 2+ months to pick up all that I had bought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayM26 0 Posted September 8, 2013 And PD's procrastinate and wait months to complete your pp paper work creating the whole problem to begin with.. Well...I feel pretty good that I should have within a month. Man....I hope I am right. Another questions guys...my local FFL said he could match the price I got on the pistol so I would support him locally of course. I know my price for the pistol walking out the door. So all that remains is the NICS cost for him to charge right? No transfer involved here since he is selling the gun to me new. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted September 8, 2013 you need to clarify with him " what price he is matching" is he matching the price of the pistol or the price of the complete sale? I don't see why you shouldn't just go with him even if the price is the same out of your pocket as long as it's not more expensive. And personally just to avoid the issues I'd go with the local guy every time if it wasn't going to cost say more then 5%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anactivegrenade 25 Posted September 8, 2013 If your FFL is kill with holding it until you get your P2P, it's all fine. Two FFLs held long-guns for me before I got my FID. It's 100% legal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Night Prowler 0 Posted September 8, 2013 If he is matching the price it's a no brainer. Buy local. You know exactly what you are getting and if there is an issue with the gun it will be much easier dealing with a local guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayM26 0 Posted September 8, 2013 you need to clarify with him " what price he is matching" is he matching the price of the pistol or the price of the complete sale? I don't see why you shouldn't just go with him even if the price is the same out of your pocket as long as it's not more expensive. And personally just to avoid the issues I'd go with the local guy every time if it wasn't going to cost say more then 5%. This much is clear that he is matching the cost of the pistol. My question was on the usual transfer cost from FFL to FFL which obviously there isn't one now since I am buying direct from my local FFL. He will just do the NICS is all right? That would save me $25 right there in avoiding the transfer cost so I would be ahead of the game even with him matching the pistol cost. Another benefit I would gather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted September 8, 2013 This much is clear that he is matching the cost of the pistol. My question was on the usual transfer cost from FFL to FFL which obviously there isn't one now since I am buying direct from my local FFL. He will just do the NICS is all right? That would save me $25 right there in avoiding the transfer cost so I would be ahead of the game even with him matching the pistol cost. Another benefit I would gather.you'll pay nj sales tax now which might be more then 25 bucks Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted September 9, 2013 you'll pay nj sales tax now which might be more then 25 bucks Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 4 Yeah, but he shouldn't pay shipping, which is likely to be more than $25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted September 9, 2013 Yeah, but he shouldn't pay shipping, which is likely to be more than $25true, depends on the ffl. The op should just ask for the otd price and go with what he feels is right. Hopefully if it's only a few bucks he just supports local guy Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted September 9, 2013 And the state makes us procrastinate with this idiotic OGAM law. Took me 3 months to get 3 permits which will take me another 2+ months to pick up all that I had bought. You should just go for an exemption if you have 3 waiting, You'll get that quick if your PD doesn't sit on it, last one I did (recently) got turned around to me in 8 days............ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayM26 0 Posted September 9, 2013 you'll pay nj sales tax now which might be more then 25 bucks Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 4 I got it covered guys. I'm comparing apples to apples for price. Including tax. I made sure of this with my local FFL. He says he can meet the price. So going back to my last question, all that is left is the NICS cost correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayM26 0 Posted September 9, 2013 Yes sir. If you buy local, you pay tax and ~$16 NICS. You have to pay $16 NICS for FFL transfer, but sometimes that fee is included in FFL transfer fee. I'm not transferring. Buying the gun right from my local FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2013 You should just go for an exemption if you have 3 waiting, You'll get that quick if your PD doesn't sit on it, last one I did (recently) got turned around to me in 8 days............ Different FFLs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2013 You can get an exemption for 10 handguns from 10 different NJ FFLs. You/they would have to fill out a separate form 16 for each dealer, and all would be on your form 15. And by the time I did that, I would be right where I am now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted September 12, 2013 Thank you too Dave. Storage?..wow on a 16" x 16" case? I would hope not. He's doing the transfer and NICS for me. I had an issue back in January where I ordered a handgun from Armslist, then applied for a purchase permit which took longer than usual. I then lost the permit (probably got thrown away with income tax junk). I re-applied and received new permits, which took 7 weeks. After all was said and done my FFL charged me $10 x 3 months for storage. This was on top of a similar charge for 2 Mosins, plus three transfer fees @ $65 each, and the NICS. The fees were more than I actually paid for the two rifles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites