Norseman 2 Posted September 19, 2013 Once again: I'm new to handgun ownership. Before purchasing my XD any handgun I'd ever shot was loaded and handed to me. So I'm so cautious around my guns and ammo, I treat the stuff like its nitroglycerin. Do I have to be so extremely safe with it? Like if I God forbid accidentally dropped a .45 round what's the odds of it going off? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damjan 73 Posted September 19, 2013 1. Drop a 45 round 2. Keep dropping it until it goes off 3. See how many times you dropped it before it went off and you ll know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartAss 11 Posted September 19, 2013 Maybe the Wise Owl will know... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizzzarddemon 0 Posted September 19, 2013 1. Drop a 45 round 2. Keep dropping it until it goes off 3. See how many times you dropped it before it went off and you ll know I agree with this Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damjan 73 Posted September 19, 2013 Once again: I'm new to handgun ownership. Before purchasing my XD any handgun I'd ever shot was loaded and handed to me. So I'm so cautious around my guns and ammo, I treat the stuff like its nitroglycerin. Do I have to be so extremely safe with it? Like if I God forbid accidentally dropped a .45 round what's the odds of it going off? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Odds are slim it would go off. It ll have to hit something that will set off the primer and be dropped/thrown with some velocity. Since its not contained in the barrel of the handgun it will just simply pop and the bullet will not have velocity to do any damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted September 19, 2013 I've been around literally millions of rounds of ammo in my time. I know of (reliable source I wasn't there) exactly one instance where a round discharged when dropped on a hard surface. The chances are extremely slim of it happening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Odds are close to zero and even if it happens there is no real danger. Something similar. Mythbusters - Bullets Thrown Onto Campfire - Are They Lethal? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/OAK2dDQ-S4Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted September 19, 2013 Ok cool thanks for the info guys (and thanks for the laughs Damjan and Smartass!) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Hartman 31 Posted September 19, 2013 You should take an NRA or similar basic pistol course or courses, I think you would gain allot of confidence with your new gun and be more comfortable with it and more than likely be a better shooter and enjoy your time with it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted September 19, 2013 I definitely am going to look into taking some courses. Also I've got a very good friend who's a LEO and been handling guns ...training (as trainee and trainer) for many many years. We spoke on the phone last night (he saw me post something on Facebook asking if anyone wanted to go to the range and called). He's got a range we are going to start going to (starting this afternoon!!) and he told me we're not gonna just go out there and pop off a bunch of rounds and leave. He is going to train me as if I was going to be one of his reports. So I'm pretty excited about that!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReadDude 0 Posted September 19, 2013 You should take an NRA or similar basic pistol course or courses, I think you would gain allot of confidence with your new gun and be more comfortable with it and more than likely be a better shooter and enjoy your time with it . I second that. I didn't take the Pistol Basics class until 5 years after buying my first pistol (I had been comfortable with rifles and shotguns for most of my life). My wife wanted to get more comfortable with handguns, so we signed up for a "together" day at the class. I have to say, the shooting fundamentals part of the class was worth it alone for me. But the course also teaches safety, gun maintenance, ammo identification, etc. all in a very concise manner that can only make a new shooter more comfortable and confident and SAFE. The book is a good reference to have around long-term as well for newbies. I often re-read the shooting fundamentals chapter when my accuracy falls apart. Handgun shooting is more like golf than a lot of folks would believe until they try it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted September 19, 2013 Sounds good ...I'll definitely find a course in the near future! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickeyduck 0 Posted September 28, 2013 not sure if an exploding round is fatal from a few feet. there's no barrel to contain the force. you may get fragments in your eyes or something if it ever goes off. any reports of someone dying from an exploding round thrown into the fire? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted September 28, 2013 Don't know if this was mentioned already, but if it went off it would not do what you think. Go back to high school physics for a moment and you will come up with the correct answer. Since the round is not contained in the barrel of the gun here is what would happen. If the primer ignited the powder it would burn and expand just like in the gun, but since the casing is not locked into place the force of the burning gasses would push against both the casing and the heavy lead bullet. What that means is that the bullet would hardly move, but the casing would go flying since it is much lighter. It might do some damage, but nothing like a bullet being propelled out the barrel of a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 28, 2013 Watch this video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickeyduck 0 Posted September 28, 2013 Watch this video fantastic video, dude. that dude doing the intro has dracula eyes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olderguy 0 Posted September 28, 2013 Hope they don't do this too often; what a waste of ammo! We knew this many many years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted September 28, 2013 When I young and more stupid than now, I shot at and ignited a .32 S&W short with a BB gun and the bullet didn't go anywhere but the case gave me a good hit in the chest. Duhhhh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tack Tickle 0 Posted September 29, 2013 I'll tell you exactly what would happen... Was at a friends house way back in the day learning what "reloading" meant. A round went down to the floor. In a one in a million chance the casing landed flat on the primer right were a little pebble was. The casing split like a daisy and the round went about 6 inches in the air. Made quite a noise, but NOTHING like I expected would happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sixtytwo327 14 Posted September 29, 2013 Great video - thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Do what i did when i was curious... tape a sg shell on 4x4 about 50 yards out and nail the primer with a 22 ( took a quarter of a box of federal bulk lol) and u will see the side of the shell just blows out the contents doesnt move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted September 29, 2013 What a great video. 400k rounds of ammo.... Sniff sniff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malice4you 627 Posted October 2, 2013 That video was very interesting to watch, though I am slightly disappointed they did not include some fairly common things: .22LR or other rimfire cartridges in the first set of tests (especially drop); sealed metal ammo cans in a fire; and guns/magazines in the fire, where nothing was in the chamber, but a few rounds were in magazines (including a shotgun with rounds in the mag tube)... Those are situations where I'm guessing things might be more dangerous, and would have liked to know more about these situations once and for all... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted October 2, 2013 The thing about ammo is to never assume it will behave the same way twice, slight changes in pressure, enclosure, temperature etc can change how it behaves. It is safer then most people think, but not harmless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted October 9, 2013 I can't wait till I can watch that video with sound. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted October 9, 2013 Maybe the Wise Owl will know... I remember this comercial.. craked me up as a kid.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites