DargZ 5 Posted December 17, 2013 really considered it a LOT.. but just not sure about the "hook" aspect of it.. Problem solved. I like mine. It's super light compared to my STR. Cheek weld is not as good as the STR but it's great on my lightweight 22lr build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted December 17, 2013 Plus, I would not want to mortar that thing try to clear a malfunction. These guys beat it up a little bit. You can skip thru and check it out around the 13:00 mark. I'm not that hard on my equipment but others may and I agree that it may not survive a brutal beating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 17, 2013 A guy that lives in the town I work in is a rep/dealer for MFT. He have me a few stocks to try out. They were OK. I put them with CAA or Mako. No where near as well made or comfortable as a Magpul, B5, LMT, VLTOR, etc... That "minimalist" stock wasn't one I got hands on, but it looks like it would be an exercise in frustration. That "hook" would get caught on everything, snag hazards in the environment, chest rigs, slings, armor carriers.. No thanks. Plus, I would not want to mortar that thing try to clear a malfunction. yeah I ended up passing on it.. but I really like the idea of it... I am still really inbetween the b5 or vltor.. I simply cannot decide... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowerlevel 77 Posted December 17, 2013 Problem solved. I like mine. It's super light compared to my STR. Cheek weld is not as good as the STR but it's great on my lightweight 22lr build. Yeah saw that solution on arfcom, looks cool but kinda defeats the purpose of the stock if you need to add s**t on it to make it useable http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/630295_Feedback_on_Battlelink_Minimalist_Stock.html Still thinking about it for my next build though.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 17, 2013 if I was going to tie rope on it I would just use the CTR stock.. agree that it defeats the purpose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted December 17, 2013 If you are gonna put something there anyway, it may as well add strength to the overall system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Porthole 15 Posted December 17, 2013 It's a good policy. I just wish it was bolt forward on empty chamber, hammer cocked, selector on SAFE, mag in. It seems there is a belief (based in complete fantasy) that leaving the hammer cocked will weaken the springs over time that could eventually causing a weak hit on the primer. What is the advantage to the hammer being cocked on an empty chamber other then allowing "safe"? They are all set up pretty close actually. The white light and vert grip are in the same place, the stocks are very close on LOP and all have similar profiles (the middle gun has a B5 Bravo stock on it now), and the slings are set up the same. Also the bottom rifle is a .22 trainer while the other two are work guns. What about the BAD lever? I recognize the .22, have one just like it IThe EO has abysmal battery life, L3 has crappy CS, it is unreliable, it has a stupid auto off feature, I find it has a busy reticle, they designed the battery compartment poorly. CS? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted December 17, 2013 What is the advantage to the hammer being cocked on an empty chamber other then allowing "safe"? That's just it, the rifle is already on safe. One less thing to do when you pull the rifle from the rack and you are thinking about 10,000 other things while charging the weapon. If it is already on safe, then you only have to think about 9999 things. If you need to pull the rifle and start shooting immediately, you probably should have been doing something other than getting that rifle out. What about the BAD lever? I recognize the .22, have one just like it Can't fit a BAD on the SW MP15-22 without some mods. Didn't want to do that, so I run it stock. I do 90% of my training with a regular AR. I use the .22 for a little bit of training (I have taken an EAG class using the .22), certain matches, and to help problem shooters. CS? Customer service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holeshot 3 Posted December 17, 2013 Customer service. Damn HE, I got #3 wrong. I thought CS was company secretary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holeshot 3 Posted December 17, 2013 yeah I ended up passing on it.. but I really like the idea of it... I am still really inbetween the b5 or vltor.. I simply cannot decide... B5 Bravo or SOPMOD? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 17, 2013 B5 Bravo or SOPMOD? probably the sopmod... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 889 Posted December 17, 2013 I really like ACE stocks in both lenghts what rails are they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 17, 2013 I keep forgetting to measure the stock. Ill measure both the imod standard and clubfoot tonight. I accidentally ordered the clubfoot one when I thought I was ordering the standard so I have both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted December 17, 2013 The clubfoot and standard VLTOR IMOD are the same length: 6.626" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 889 Posted December 17, 2013 These guys beat it up a little bit. You can skip thru and check it out around the 13:00 mark. I'm not that hard on my equipment but others may and I agree that it may not survive a brutal beating. I may buy one of these to try on a new build.....I like it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbotezza 1 Posted December 19, 2013 Not cheap and minimal cheek weld, but if you want your gun as short as possible... NEA Compact Carbine stock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 19, 2013 Pretty sure I know where I'm going.... Thanks for all the help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Porthole 15 Posted December 19, 2013 It's a good policy. I just wish it was bolt forward on empty chamber, hammer cocked, selector on SAFE, mag in. The EO has abysmal battery life, L3 has crappy CS, it is unreliable, it has a stupid auto off feature, I find it has a busy reticle, they designed the battery compartment poorly. Checked with #1 son, his dept SOP is full mag, no round in chamber, bolt forward and on SAFE Aim Points instead of the EO then? Anyone try the Mako stock that can hold a magazine? http://www.themakogroup.com/product_p/gl-mag.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted December 19, 2013 Pretty sure I know where I'm going.... Thanks for all the help! Tease!!! Checked with #1 son, his dept SOP is full mag, no round in chamber, bolt forward and on SAFE Aim Points instead of the EO then? Anyone try the Mako stock that can hold a magazine? http://www.themakogroup.com/product_p/gl-mag.htm Yes. Aimpont over EOTurd all day long. Avoid the Mako stuff in general and that stock in particular. It is a gimmick. If you want to carry an extra mag, there are quite a few better ways than that abortion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted December 19, 2013 Awesome! But as you can see mine does not, this makes me sad Mine are old VLTOR mod-stocks, (imod before they called them imod) good to know they upgraded that in the newest iterations. My emod has the rubber pad though: Still like the SOPMOD best ETA: There's that TD grip again I upgraded my MP15-22 up with parts from the parts bin including the eoturd. I won all the TD stuff (stubby, pistol grip, rail covers) for being high shooter in an EAG carbine 2 course and I wasn't using it for anything else.... I will likely be getting a BCM Gunfighter grip for it soonest. At the risk of nitpicking... is your front sight on backwards? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted December 19, 2013 Yup. The front sight attaches to the rail with a thumbscrew on the left side. I had to flip it because that's the only way to make it fit with the light in that spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 19, 2013 Yup. The front sight attaches to the rail with a thumbscrew on the left side. I had to flip it because that's the only way to make it fit with the light in that spot. it doesnt really matter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted December 19, 2013 Ahhh okay yea that makes sense, I am familiar with 15-22 sights, didn't think about that screw getting in the way of the light. Carry on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) it doesnt really matter?Of you mean it doesn't matter which direction the sight faces because the iron sight functions the same whether it is on frontwards or backwards, correct, it is nothing more than an cosmetic difference. If you mean it doesn't matter where the light goes, I disagree. This is rifle is used for training and building procedural memory of administrative functions and TTP using .22LR ammo instead if 5.56x45 which saves me money. For me to get the most out of that training I need this rifle set up as close as possible to my other guns, and I need the "switchology" to be the same. ETA: I assume you mean the first thing, but the "?" At the end screw me up.... Edited December 19, 2013 by High Exposure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 19, 2013 The clubfoot and standard VLTOR IMOD are the same length: 6.626" missed this earlier. but i measured and came up with just about the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 19, 2013 Of you mean it doesn't matter which direction the sight faces because the iron sight functions the same whether it is on frontwards or backwards, correct, it is nothing more than an cosmetic difference. If you mean it doesn't matter where the light goes, I disagree. This is rifle is used for training and building procedural memory of administrative functions and TTP using .22LR ammo instead if 5.56x45 which saves me money. For me to get the most out of that training I need this rifle set up as close as possible to my other guns, and I need the "switchology" to be the same. ETA: I assume you mean the first thing, but the "?" At the end screw me up.... I meant the iron sight.... LoL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites