le_boudin 2 Posted December 19, 2013 lead bullets will be all but phased out within a few years in favor of so-called green bullets... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/18/end-line-for-lead-bullet-regulations-bans-force-switch-to-green-ammo/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DbleTrouble 8 Posted December 19, 2013 Just what the country needs when the economy is in the drain is to replace lead with co$$er Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted December 19, 2013 I wonder what they'll use in the batteries of all those electric cars???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TooBigToFit 2 Posted December 19, 2013 Well, it's not good news when a news article starts off with a factual error... When the last bullet-producing lead smelter closes its doors on Dec. 31 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted December 19, 2013 The lead for bullets, for the most part is all from recycled batteries, not from first run lead from that smelter that is closing. Lead acid batteries aren't going away, they will simply be built in Asia or Mexico or somewhere with no pollution controls. The same batteries will be recycled and the lead will be used to make bullets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reddog87 0 Posted December 19, 2013 Now we can all switch to depleted uranium rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikelets456 78 Posted December 19, 2013 Teflon coated hardened steel works for me.. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted December 20, 2013 Two dozen states ban lead bullets? Is that true? I hope the libs realize that lead is a naturally occurring substance. Maybe after the military stops using lead bullets they will become cheaply available for all the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted December 20, 2013 Well, you can't cast 5.56, but I'll be casting a lot of 7.62x39, 45 ACP, and 38 if that's the case. Not sure if 7.62x54r or 30-06 can be cast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted December 20, 2013 Its infowars, the truth is highly exaggerated. I still wonder why anyone gets their news from Alex Jones. It's Fox News and a few others reporting this not info wars Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted December 20, 2013 It's stupid, and a load of BS. 1) Most lead for everything but batteries comes from recycled lead, and when I say most, I mean the VAST majority. 2) We aren't shutting down lead recycling. 3) We aren't banning the import of already smelted lead. Lead ammo isn't banned anywhere I am aware of across the board. Where it is banned, it is banned for hunting. Quite possibly given the BS nature of the article, only for specific kinds of hunting. Guess what, NJ would be one of those places. Clearly we can't get lead ammo here and aren't allowed to shoot it for recreational purposes.. what? That's not true.. damn!. Lead shot is banned for hunting waterfowl lots of places, and is likely what they are referring to. For hunting, with the limited rounds expended, evne places that ban lead rifle ammo, it's not like solid copper, or copper with compressed tungsten powder rounds are prohibitively expensive for the task. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worn_Holster 2 Posted December 20, 2013 I reported the same on another website, and I was called out on it. The closing of that plant is not the end of lead in the US. Read on... http://sierrabullets.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/sierra-responds-how-will-the-closure-of-the-lead-smelting-plant-affect-sierra-bullets/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted December 20, 2013 this has nothing to do with the closing of the plant if you read the article in completeness. They only reference the closing of thew plant. It is something else entirely YES we are all aware that the closing of Doe Run will not effect prices and production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS1200XL 4 Posted December 20, 2013 It's Fox News and a few others reporting this not info wars My apologies. I had a tab open before with another article on infowars and got my topics mixed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravity 0 Posted December 20, 2013 Well, you can't cast 5.56, but I'll be casting a lot of 7.62x39, 45 ACP, and 38 if that's the case. Not sure if 7.62x54r or 30-06 can be cast. Yes you can cast .223/5.56 lead bullets who told you this nonsense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted December 21, 2013 Next we will be phasing in paper-mache and nerf bullets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted December 21, 2013 Your can cast 223.. 06 x54 etc..... Just run gas checks.... Yup, all of the above. But I think it's dumb for rifles outside of Zombie Apocalypse or head shortage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted December 22, 2013 How does cast 223 shoot? Truth is, I've never reloaded or cast for that matter. I inherited everything I need to do both and I just haven't gotten into. Done a lot of reading and that's it. I've read that a lot of rifle bullets can't be cast well. Slow stuff like 30-30 works well, and more modern bullets may cause excessive leading at a standard speed. So yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about. I'd like to cast 38, 45, 30 carb, and maybe one or two others. I shoot a lot of cast 38 and 45 ACP SWC's, my dad's 1911 likes them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted December 22, 2013 I wonder what they'll use in the batteries of all those electric cars???? nickel, lithium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 889 Posted December 22, 2013 I shoot alot of pistol caliber lead bullets but have never seen one in a rifle round like .223 or 08, 06. wish it would work to save on ammo costs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worn_Holster 2 Posted December 23, 2013 I've cast for 8mm mauser 175gr RN GCs, loaded with the Harris load of 16-17gr of 2400, nice no-bruise hunting load. Cast boolits knock the crap out of a deer when you hit it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites