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http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/S0500/252_I1.HTM

 

STATEMENT

 

     This bill exempts tubular magazines designed to accept, and capable of operation only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition from the definition of “large capacity ammunition magazine.”

     Currently, any magazine, regardless of design or caliber, that is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition is defined as a large capacity ammunition magazine.  Large capacity ammunition magazines are illegal in New Jersey.  Under New Jersey law, any person possessing a large capacity ammunition magazine is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

     Under this bill, tubular magazines designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition are exempted from the definition of “large capacity ammunition magazine.”  This exemption would permit the sale and possession of a popular beginner gun, the Marlin Model 60, often referred to as the “Boy Scout gun.”  The firearm is low caliber and the tubular magazine cannot be reloaded quickly.

     Other states and jurisdictions with strict gun laws have provided exemptions from their definitions of “large capacity magazines” for this specific magazine.  Among those states and jurisdictions are California, New York, Maryland, and Washington, D.C.

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It actually made it out of LPS committee last year but Sweeney buried it because the GOPers ran Niki Trunk against him. 

 

Why would that encourage him to hold back on actual "common sense" legislation? If anything, I would think it would help his image among gun owners.  

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Why would that encourage him to hold back on actual "common sense" legislation? If anything, I would think it would help his image among gun owners.

Because liberal democrats in NJ or anywhere for that matter are not about compromise. Sweeney was fighting with Weinberg for control of the Democrat party in NJ and she is rabidly anti gun.

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It's a good bill designed to make this gun not an assault weapon.

 

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It actually made it out of LPS committee last year but Sweeney buried it because the GOPers ran Niki Trunk against him. 

 

Ryan,

 

Can you tell me why this simple rifle is called an "assault weapon"? 

I was thinking of getting a rifle but I am concerned that after I buy one, it will be outlawed for some BS reason.

 

Thanks,

Tom

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They finally figured out that .22 rimfire is not dangerous. Why limit capacity on a .22??? No one was ever killed with a .22.

 

I feel that  a legislator should not be allowed to vote on a topic that he or she has absolutely no knowledge of!!!

     If a politician knows nothing about guns, how the hell can they pass laws restricting them???

 

They should have training and demonstrate a good working knowledge before being allowed to vote against something

they know nothing about.  I doubt I will get a CCW without first proving my knowledge and ability with a gun. Yet they can vote

against my right for CCW without any proven knowledge whatsoever!!! :banghead:

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Just got this in my Email @ 2:10 PM Today!!!  ??????

 

 

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MAG BAN IS REALLY A GUN BAN!  

 

Direct Attack On Gun Owners, Hunters and Sportsmen

Would Ban Popular American .22 Rifles!

 

Would Turn Current Owners Into Felons -

Up to TEN YEARS in Prison

 

No Grandfathering, No Amnesty

 

"Confiscate, Confiscate, Confiscate"

 

A2006 = GUN BAN            

 

Anti-gun legislators' attempt to ban ammunition magazines over 10 rounds (A2006) is a lot more than "just" a magazine ban.  It's also a gun ban that would outlaw some of the most popular .22 rifles in the United States, turn their owners into felons, and force them to abandon their property or go to jail for as long as ten years - essentially a confiscation.

 

Whether by stealth or stupidity, A2006 (scheduled to be heard in Assembly committee on Monday, March 3), would make the following change to existing law: "'Assault Firearm' means...A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 10 rounds."

 

This change would flat-out ban many common and popular tube-fed .22 rifles, including the partial list of guns that would be banned at the bottom of this alert.

 

Those in possession of these popular guns would be turned into felons overnight for possession of so-called "assault" firearms - a second degree crime in New Jersey carrying up to ten years in prison, with a minimum mandatory sentence of 3-5 years, with no chance of parole.  

 

A2006 contains no grandfathering to protect current owners, and no amnesty period or procedure for current owners who wish to comply (in ironic contradiction to the legislature's creation of a limited "assault" firearms amnesty period in 2013, which has since expired).  Existing owners would be thrown to the wolves - forced to abandon their property or go to prison - a form of confiscation.

 

Although NJ's anti-gun legislators have long denied any intention to confiscate firearms, their true intentions were exposed last year in shocking "hot mic" comments between legislators after a gun control hearing, in which they stated their wish to "confiscate, confiscate, confiscate" firearms.

 

A2006 MAGAZINE BAN

 

Less hidden in A2006 than the gun ban, is its stated purpose: to ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.  This is based on the naïve and false assumption that removing a particular type of tool from society will somehow make everyone safer.

 

Those bent on doing evil will not be stopped or deterred just because a particular tool becomes less available or unavailable.  If box cutters could bring down the World Trade Center, does anyone really believe that banning box cutters will stop the next terrorist attack?  The same is true of firearms - banning a particular tool will not deter someone who is determined to do evil.

 

Also, criminals and madmen don't follow magazine bans, or any other type of ban for that matter.  Criminals laugh at laws that target hardware.  Only law-abiding citizens are affected by hardware bans, because they're the only ones that follow them.  The net effect is that the law-abiding are put at a disadvantage against the lawless.  The only thing that criminals understand is severe punishment.

 

Even if a magic wand could be waved in the land of anti-gun fantasy and remove all 10+ round magazines from the planet, no one would be made any safer, because magazines can be changed very quickly.   The theory that a magazine change provides an opportunity to "tackle" an assailant is unsound and unsupported by the weight of the evidence.

 

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that police owe no duty to protect individual citizens from harm, which means that citizens are on their own in an emergency and cannot rely on 911.  Yet rather than enhance the ability of citizens to defend themselves when an emergency or home invasion strikes, A2006 would instead tie their hands and put them at a disadvantage against criminals who will ignore the magazine ban.

 

Magazine bans are also completely arbitrary and their logic, if followed, have the potential to lead to a complete ban on all rounds.  The idea that an eleventh round is somehow more lethal than the tenth is absurd, and the exact same logic could be applied to a second round in relation to the first, or even the first round itself.

 

The Constitutional right of self-defense is sacrosanct, and a magazine ban directly and significantly interferes with that right.

 

NOTE: A2777 (reasonable deviations in firearms transportation) has still not been posted online. We will have comment on that legislation when it becomes available.

 

PLEASE IMMEDIATELY TELL MEMBERS OF THE ASSEMBLY LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO DEFEAT THE A2006 GUN BAN AND MAGAZINE BAN!

  

Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31)

[email protected]

Phone: 201-536-7851

Fax: 201-536-7854

Gilbert L. Wilson (Vice Chair) (D5)

[email protected]

Phone: 856-547-4800

Fax: 856-547-5496

Joseph Cryan (D20)

[email protected]

Phone: 908-624-0880

Fax: 908-624-0587

Gregory P. McGuckin (R10)

[email protected]

Phone: 732-840-9028

Fax: 732-840-9757

Erik Peterson (R23)

[email protected]

Phone: 908-238-0251

Fax: 908-238-0256

Nancy J. Pinkin (D18)

[email protected]

Phone: 732-548-1406

Fax: 732-548-1623

David P. Rible (R30)

[email protected]

Phone: 732-974-0400

Fax: 732-974-2564

Shavonda E. Sumter (D35)

[email protected]

Phone: 973-925-7061

Fax: 973-925-7067

 

THE BAN LIST

 

FOLLOWING IS A PARTIAL LIST OF THE SEMI-AUTO .22 RIFLES* 
THAT WOULD BE BANNED BY A2006:

 

 

Browning Auto .22 Rifles

Browning Auto-22 Rifle

Browning Auto-22 Grade VI

Browning BAR .22 Auto Rifle

Browning SA-22 Semi-Auto 22 Rifle

CBC N66 Auto rifle

Glenfield Model 40 rifle

Lakefield Arms Model 64B Auto Rifle

Marlin Glenfield 60 rifle

Marlin 552 BDL rifle

Marlin Model 60 Self Loading Rifles

Marlin Model 60C

Marlin Model 60SB

Marlin Model 60S-CF

Marlin Model 60SN

Marlin Model 60ss Self-Loading Rifle

Marlin Model 60 SSK rifle

Marlin Model 60 DLX rifle

Marlin Glenfield 75C rifle

Marlin Model 795

Marlin Model 795SS

Marlin Model 922 Magnum Self-Loading Rifle

Marlin 990 rifle

Marlin Model 990l Self-Loading Rifle

Marlin Model 995 Self-Loading Rifle

Mossberg 377 Plinkster rifle

Mossberg 702 Plinkster

Mossberg - Other Variants

Norinco Model 22 ATD Rifle

Remington 552 rifle

Remington 552A rifle

Remington 552BDL Speedmaster Rifle

Remington Model 522 Viper Autoloading Rifle

Remington Nylon 66 rifle

Remington Nylon 66AB rifle

Remington Nylon 66

Savage 990DL rifle

Stevens 987-T rifle

Taurus Model 63 rifle

Weatherby Mark XXII Tubular rifle

Winchester 190

Winchester 290

Winchester- Other Variants

 

 

*LEGAL NOTE FROM EVAN NAPPEN: New Jersey takes the position that tube-fed semi-auto .22 rifles that hold rounds in excess of     the legal limit are "assault firearms" under New Jersey law. This was affirmed by the State Supreme Court in the infamous Pelleteri case,   in which a citizen was convicted of possession of a Marlin model 60 .22 caliber rifle..

 

   

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This original post is a whole separate bill then the one you posted alert about. The thread is about a bill that was supposed to fix the problem about tube fed 22's but now this bill will be useless and die if the mag reduction bill goes thru

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This original post is a whole separate bill then the one you posted alert about. The thread is about a bill that was supposed to fix the problem about tube fed 22's but now this bill will be useless and die if the mag reduction bill goes thru

OG,   Why will this bill be useless if the mag bill passes? I thought the Senate bill further defines the Assembly mag cap limit as to not include tube fed 22s. I'm confused!

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because the S252 was to fix a problem we had before A2006 , A2006 will now remove a ton other rifles that hold 10+ -15rds and calls them assault firearms.

 

This is a way that they created a way to eliminate many rifles from our possession, S252 will now become obsolete so to speak.

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