What reliable media sources do you use?

[brocglock23 4]

And you got me, I am trying to figure out how to take your money away. I always want more.

i tend to watch it all and come to my own conclusion. As far a mcbethr's comment above. I don't know you but I've heard your stories.... Trying to take others money now??? Are all those beretta guns that involve fancy cars and girls finally taking its toll on your pockets? Try a glock, save some money and stop taking others money.

 

 

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[Underdog 1,593]

Actually, I am one of those leftest elitist.  It even says so above my picture. Last I checked, conservatives aren't the only group with a self-interest in self-defense.  And you got me, I am trying to figure out how to take your money away.  I always want more.

 

If it is true that you are a constituent of the Left and you vote for the current leadership, then you are by defacto scheming to take away rights, including rights to private property including labor time.  But lets not get sidetracked.  This thread is about finding sources of information.  NPR is NOT an unbiased source, and I am not happy about government assistance.  I do not recommend it, except to see what the Statists are focusing on at the moment.

[SgtToadette 59]

If it is true that you are a constituent of the Left and you vote for the current leadership, then you are by defacto planning on taking away my rights.

 

 

I guess that means you support the war in Iraq, hate gays, and love the patriot act.

[NotJust22s 10]

Isn't "reliable media" an oxymoron ??

[DeerSlayer 241]

The Blaze

Cam & CO

GFH radio

Info wars

Fox News, sometimes

& News 12 for traffic and weather

 

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[SgtToadette 59]

Isn't "reliable media" an oxymoron ??

Yes. But it's also our responsibility to be good information consumers. This video explains it well:

 

http://bigthink.com/videos/information-obesity-take-responsibility-fatty

[AnthonyC83 0]

I watch CNN and Fox almost exclusively. Msnbc when the market is open so I can see what's going on in the markets. They are all garbage, with fox being the top of the heap of trash news. I still watch it though. And I can't LOL loud enough at your post underdog. How do you live with such ignorance? That's incredible

[Underdog 1,593]

 

I guess that means you support the war in Iraq, hate gays, and love the patriot act.

I'm a Constitutional Conservative, not a Republican. The Republican Party is liberals. The Democratic Party is socialist-statists. Neither believe in personal liberty and its flipside, personal responsibility. There is a difference. And there is a difference between hard Left-Left and Hard Right-Right. The hard Right as it should has a very small voice, while the hard Left has dishonestly and with outside help, hijacked the media and the discourse. It is a very small minority and uses every trick to advance its agenda, and intolerantly and without principle, advance its agenda to control and bring us back to the dark ages.

Edited February 10, 2014 by Underdog

[DeerSlayer 241]

^^^^ I agree with Underdog 150%, I have the exact same political views.

 

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[SgtToadette 59]

I'm a Constitutional Conservative, not a Republican. The Republican Party is liberals. The Democratic Party is socialist-statists. Neither believe in personal liberty and its flipside, personal responsibility. There is a difference. And there is a difference between hard Left-Left and Hard Right-Right. The hard Right as it should has a very small voice, while the hard Left has dishonestly and with outside help, hijacked the media and the discourse. It is a very small minority and uses every trick to advance its agenda, and intolerantly and without principle, advance its agenda to control and bring us back to the dark ages.

 

Who do you vote for so I can stereotype you for it?

[njpilot 671]

I'm a Constitutional Conservative, not a Republican. The Republican Party is liberals. The Democratic Party is socialist-statists. Neither believe in personal liberty and its flipside, personal responsibility. There is a difference. And there is a difference between hard Left-Left and Hard Right-Right. The hard Right as it should has a very small voice, while the hard Left has dishonestly and with outside help, hijacked the media and the discourse. It is a very small minority and uses every trick to advance its agenda, and intolerantly and without principle, advance its agenda to control and bring us back to the dark ages.

Well said.

[RUTGERS95 890]

CNN. I think it represents the closest to middle ground reporting than any other big, basic cable news station. Granted, the second you throw news commentary shows into the mix, it's all garbage no matter the channel.

 

If I had Aljazeera I would watch that. BBC is good as well.

 

Other than that, I follow various Reddit subreddits for daily news. If I'm looking to be informed on a particular issue, I'll try and find some primary sources via Google.

I almost swallowed my dip reading 'cnn, I think it represents the closest to middle ground reporting'....lol     I can't even get to the Aljazeera rationale....respectfully...lol

[Displaced Texan 11,731]

I'm a Constitutional Conservative, not a Republican. The Republican Party is liberals. The Democratic Party is socialist-statists. Neither believe in personal liberty and its flipside, personal responsibility. There is a difference. And there is a difference between hard Left-Left and Hard Right-Right. The hard Right as it should has a very small voice, while the hard Left has dishonestly and with outside help, hijacked the media and the discourse. It is a very small minority and uses every trick to advance its agenda, and intolerantly and without principle, advance its agenda to control and bring us back to the dark ages.

Also my views.

I see less and less difference between Republicans and Democrats these days.

We need to rise up and remove these people from office. They are destroying this state, our country, and our way of life.

[SgtToadette 59]

I almost swallowed my dip reading 'cnn, I think it represents the closest to middle ground reporting'....lol     I can't even get to the Aljazeera rationale....respectfully...lol

 

Aljazeera America is often dismissed by name alone, but by all most reports is very similar to BBC style reporting, with more actual reporting than typical American media. The key word being reporting, not commentary. 

 

Fox News is right, MSNBC is left, and CNN is closer to the middle than either, but has a noticeable liberal bias. Besides, it's not about what bias the news has. A bias realized is a bias sterilized and if I can watch a program, then recognize and compensate for its bias, I can do a better job at being informed rather than being affirmed. I'll take CNN over Fox or MSNBC any day.

 

I supplement all my media intake with primary sources I can locate on the internet. It gets the juices flowing for further research. I think there's a lot of superficial knowledge out there. Reading an article online or watching the news no longer means you're informed. I hate to break it to a lot of people, but reading an article on The Blaze or The Huffington Post doesn't make you an expert on healthcare, foreign policy, or whatever. There's way too many links to articles or opinion pieces and too little primary sources.

 

My biggest pet peeve is this common trend of people rejecting traditional labels and inventing their own for themselves, pretending their poo doesn't stink. They'll something like:"I'm not a democrat/republican or liberal/conservative, I'm a libertarian/constitutional conservative". Okay. They're a special snowflake. Whatever. The worst, though, is that they will then simultaneously categorize everyone else and act as if they're somehow superior. If everyone were only a little more like them, the world would be better. It's absurd and ignorant.

[Underdog 1,593]

Aljazeera America is often dismissed by name alone, but by all most reports is very similar to BBC style reporting, with more actual reporting than typical American media. The key word being reporting, not commentary.

 

Fox News is right, MSNBC is left, and CNN is closer to the middle than either, but has a noticeable liberal bias. Besides, it's not about what bias the news has. A bias realized is a bias sterilized and if I can watch a program, then recognize and compensate for its bias, I can do a better job at being informed rather than being affirmed. I'll take CNN over Fox or MSNBC any day.

 

I supplement all my media intake with primary sources I can locate on the internet. It gets the juices flowing for further research. I think there's a lot of superficial knowledge out there. Reading an article online or watching the news no longer means you're informed. I hate to break it to a lot of people, but reading an article on The Blaze or The Huffington Post doesn't make you an expert on healthcare, foreign policy, or whatever. There's way too many links to articles or opinion pieces and too little primary sources.

 

My biggest pet peeve is this common trend of people rejecting traditional labels and inventing their own for themselves, pretending their poo doesn't stink. They'll something like:"I'm not a democrat/republican or liberal/conservative, I'm a libertarian/constitutional conservative". Okay. They're a special snowflake. Whatever. The worst, though, is that they will then simultaneously categorize everyone else and act as if they're somehow superior. If everyone were only a little more like them, the world would be better. It's absurd and ignorant.

This has nothing to do with whose right or whose wrong. It's not a pissing contest. It's about being informed and then acting, maybe making some sacrifices like others before, and working peacefully against this engine of "fundamental transformation" to attempt to preserve this nation and the belief in freedom, especially from a tyranical governing body. This isn't about puffing up chests and being holier than thou! My pet peeve is people not looking at the big picture, or realizing what is at stake. Is a site like Canada Free Press or the Blaze always right? Probably not. Can they be reactionary or exaggerate their news?  Most likely.  Do these types of sites make money of advertising and hits and use inflammatory language?  Yeah. But by and large they are more truthful than say CNN and they present a side that 85% of the main stream media won't cover. There is no real unbiased news reporting. A large part of the bias is in the word choices or even the topics presented. OR even in the capacity to run interference and distract from another story.  The MSM does this all day long, every day.   It is all biased and there is a need to check a variety of sources. Look for facts, not emotional spin. Once you are aware of an agenda it's easier to pick out the spin.  Sometimes its difficult to see or remember that the hard Left backed by the worldly elite (for their own reasons) controls the discourse and most of the media! Question all that is said, even on beloved Foxnew, there is a predisposition to cater to estabishment statist Republicans such as Carl Rove, John Boehner, etc.. But still, Fox is more balanced than the others, especially with their news reporting and when you aren't watching one of their commentators.  I don't mean any disrespect but CNN does not help the situation.  Bloomberg News.... well if you know who owns it, then you couldn't possibly think it was unbiased. 

 

Now if you have a different view for America, and you are entitled to it.  Maybe you really do believe that the government has to have more involvement in the lives of its citizens, illegals, etc. That's a different story. But I cannot let you proclaim the virtues of CNN to someone looking for media without a liberal slant.  CNN only seems middle-of-the-road because NBC is too far Left...  Overton Window effect, etc.

[raz-0 1,259]

I almost swallowed my dip reading 'cnn, I think it represents the closest to middle ground reporting'....lol     I can't even get to the Aljazeera rationale....respectfully...lol

 

 

OK I'll bite, keeping in mind I said it is all partisan crap. 

 

Leave out the financial news segment(s), and for a 24 hour news cycle, most of your big players like fox, cnn, and MSNBC are discussing very, very few talking points, and they are mostly jsut that. Not news but talking points. 

 

BBC news covers a WHOLE lot more in just an hour than the news networks. There's less staged bickering about the topics, but a lot more topics and in many cases a lot more detail.  That doesn't mean it doesn't come with a noticeably UK perspective attached. Al Jazeera is similar. IMO, they are more biased but work harder to hide it on the american network. It's also a bit much. 24 hours of BBC news type density is a bit much. 

 

If you are content with being a passive consumer of news, then no, you probably won't like it. On the other hand if you want ot have topics to inform yourself over, they produce a lot more points to look at than the three primary cable news channels. 

 

DO I watch them? No. I don't watch my news, it wastes time. I do however subscribe to news digests of several highly partisan left and right online news aggregators.  In a few minutes, you cna get a very good idea of what both sides are lying to you about, and more interestingly, the common methodology of their lying and partisanship. 

 

ETA: It also has the benefit of showing how much common ground there is between the left and right if you just ignored the scumbags beating the drums of partisanship to ensure a death-grip on their political position.  An example from today would be a hard left article on how J-1 visas are being abused to get cheap overseas labor imported legally. The rank and file of the right really aren't in disagreement that they would like things like this to stop. You can focus on being pissed at the other side, or maybe people could agree that we should address the issues we agree upon. 

[Banka871 0]

Drudge

 

Occasionally Ill watch some RT (scorching hot anchors)

 

And the good old AR15.com general discussion forum lol

[anactivegrenade 25]

BBC, RT.com, and the occasional Fox News or CNN.

[Knuckle Sandwich 5]

Actually, I am one of those leftest elitist.  It even says so above my picture. Last I checked, conservatives aren't the only group with a self-interest in self-defense.  And you got me, I am trying to figure out how to take your money away.  I always want more.

 

 

 

I guess that means you support the war in Iraq, hate gays, and love the patriot act.

 

 

mcbeth and toadette, have you ever voted for:

 

Obama?

Corzine?

Menedez?

Lautenberg?

Booker? 

 

What about your local distrct? D/R/Other?

[SgtToadette 59]

Assume I'd vote for all of them.

 

What's your point?

[wooly bugger 1]

WSJ and BBC.

I used to like NPR and still like their non-political stuff like "Wait, wait, don't tell me" and "Prairie Home Companion," but after the gun control stuff came out, some of the hosts started showing their true colors. Same with the NYT. Good investigative reporting on non-political issues, but their blatant agenda, particularly acute with the gun issue, ruins it for me. And just the titles of the vitriolic pieces from their in-house blowhards; Down, Collins, and the appropriate named Blow, make me physically ill.  The crisis opened my eyes to the deceitfulness and contempt for truth of the anti-gunners, and unfortunately, that includes most liberals. Obama's war on rule of law had taken down liberals another notch in my book. Far right conservatives are just as deceitful, but I don't mind them as much, probably because they are less of a threat to my vision of a constitutional republic than the far left. I find I'm most aligned to libertarians. I'm pro-gay rights and pro-choice (although with reservations,) so I know I'm unwelcome in far right circles.

 

As a 2A absolutist, I'm in a tough spot, because most of my social and professional circle is liberal. In the past year, some have dropped their facade and let their hatred of gun owners shine through. I can accept differences on any other political issue, but this one strikes me to the core, and I've cut off several friendships as a result. A bit like being black and having sweet neighbors who just happen to be racist. It's funny how brilliant scientists can drop all of their ability for nuanced data interpretation when it comes to guns. The whole situation is sad, and my intolerance on this one issue is turning me into something I don't like very much.

[Knuckle Sandwich 5]

Assume I'd vote for all of them.

 

What's your point?

 

I don't have a point. I just want you to declare whether or not you support those types of candidates.

 

[SgtToadette 59]

I don't have a point. I just want you to declare whether or not you support those types of candidates.

 

I wholeheartedly supported candidate Obama. President Obama not so much.

[DeerSlayer 241]

I wholeheartedly supported candidate Obama. President Obama not so much.

hopefully you only voted for him the first term. By his second term he had shown his true colors. I think everyone here at one time or another regrets casting a ballot for the wrong guy. Happens to the best of us. I cant tell you how many times I wasted a vote on a Ross Perot or Ralph Nader multiple times. I learned my lesson. I really wish Ron Paul played ball with the Republican party then when he got elected he said "surprise I'm really a constitutionalist conservative" but i guess he instead tried something different and ran an honest campaign loosing the primary because of it. The Obamunist ran as the saviour of the free world and turned out to be a total socialist, hell bent on making the majority of the country dependant on the government instead of on themselves. So he lied to get elected, typical politician stuff.

 

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[Banka871 0]

I wholeheartedly supported candidate Obama. President Obama not so much.

I do not blame anyone for voting for him the first time. The guy ran a FANTASTIC campaign, which happens to be the one thing he is truly brilliant at. But people voting in 2012? Come on.

[Underdog 1,593]

I do not blame anyone for voting for him the first time. The guy ran a FANTASTIC campaign, which happens to be the one thing he is truly brilliant at. But people voting in 2012? Come on.

 

Fantastic campaign?  He wasn't challenged in the least.  He was thrown a soft ball everywhere he went.  He never had to explain any of his unsavory friends, fundamental change thoughts, etc..  The media was in the tank for him and that POS McCain purposefully threw the election.   Now, if you want to say the main-stream media ran a fantastic propaganda campaign, I will agree with you.

[Banka871 0]

Fine point.

[SgtToadette 59]

It didn't matter who the Democrat was in '08. Anyone who was the opposite of Bush was going to win.

[Underdog 1,593]

It didn't matter who the Democrat was in '08. Anyone who was the opposite of Bush was going to win.

 

I'm not going to defend good ole Bush, another Statist, but, again, the media made all the plays and ran the interference.  He was crucified for everything he did just as Obama, a much more imperial president, well, he gets away with everything he does.  Why?  Because the elite in the two parties are working together and playing the American people.  This is just another example of good cop/bad cop in Washington as we usher forth our agenda.   Bush was made to be a bad guy, and it was OK with both parties.  Obama was put into power by both the Republicans and Democrats... the Washington Elite, the Demopublicans, or Republicrats, they control the media and it is apparent that they play both sides and use distraction after distraction and a fawned poliarization to get the largely obscured true goal advanced as they use their showmanship to dazzle the sheeple.  The ends justify the means and things are never what they seem.

[RobertJames 14]

I almost swallowed my dip reading 'cnn, I think it represents the closest to middle ground reporting'....lol     I can't even get to the Aljazeera rationale....respectfully...lol

 

I was driving to work early one morning, flipping through radio stations.  I came across Al Jazeera America.  "This should be good for a laugh"  I thought to myself.  But after listening for a while and hearing news without slant,spin and agenda, I thought "So this is what news reporting is supposed to be like, I could get used to this."  It was a breath of fresh air, honestly and US news agencies could learn a thing or two.  

I would bet that Middle Eastern Al Jazeera is a different story however.