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There have been a number of court cases moving forward across the Republic that are pushing back against the desires of citizen control cultists, and one emerging theme seems to be a number of casing that center around the idea of citizens being able to actual bear arms in their daily lives, not just keep them in their homes.

 

Four cases are presently working their way towards (or are are already before) the U.S. Supreme Court, and the National Rifle Association just filed an amicus brief supporting the plaintiffs targeting New Jersey’s “may issue” concealed carry licencing scheme:

 

The National Rifle Association is supporting a Sussex County man’s lawsuit seeking a permit to carry his handgun outside of his house, the organization announced this week.

 

The national lobbying group said it was backing John Drake’s lawsuit with a forthcoming amicus brief, in support of Second-Amendment rights in New Jersey, the organization said. Drake, and other plaintiffs involved in the lawsuit, petitioned last month to have their case heard in the U.S. Supreme Court.

 

“Law-abiding citizens have a constitutional right to defend themselves beyond their front doorstep,” said Chris W. Cox, the executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action.

 

Drake, of Fredon, is a business owner who owns and services ATMs – and who carries large amounts of cash, according to a report on NJHerald.com. The suit challenges New Jersey law requiring “justifiable need” to acquire concealed-carry permits, according to the report.

 

To date, the “bearing” argument is still a minority view in the court system (as patently absurd as that is), but one that seems to be gaining ground. It will be interesting to see how this case proceeds, as I’m sure that the New Jersey government will fight this tooth and nail all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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They're not trying to help us, they're trying to prevent SCOTUS from enacting something that would negatively affect them...we just happen to be collateral beneficiaries. Those 19 other states don't give a rat's ass about the residents of NJ.

 

This says it it all...

 

"This decision out of New Jersey impacts the right to keep and bear arms outside of the home," Wyoming Gov. Matt Mead said Wednesday. "So, I felt it was necessary to have the attorney general support a petition to the Supreme Court to hear this case.

 

"If the current decision stands, states providing greater protections than New Jersey under the Second Amendment may be pre-empted by future federal action," said Mead, a Republican.

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They're not trying to help us, they're trying to prevent SCOTUS from enacting something that would negatively affect them...we just happen to be collateral beneficiaries. Those 19 other states don't give a rat's ass about the residents of NJ.

 

 

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.    So I'm happy to see them stepping in, whatever their reasons might be.

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We definitely stand to benefit from the action. My point was that the other states aren't doing this to help the residents of NJ, they're doing it to protect themselves from FFF (Future Federal F***ing)

 

I'm glad that this is finally getting national attention from states that feel it could threaten their liberties and are stepping up to defend other states from constitutional injustice.

 

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We definitely stand to benefit from the action. My point was that the other states aren't doing this to help the residents of NJ, they're doing it to protect themselves from FFF (Future Federal F***ing)

 

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True indeed. Check this message I received on a sale post I put up on arms list when the potential buyer saw that I live in NJ -

 

"sorry we've written you off.... and because you people failed now they are coming after us.... yes the NY/NJ pukes are here now in the mid-west messing with us .... we have plenty of people here saying -- oh it cant happen here ..... well because you people had the same indifference over the past 10 years ... you let them come after us ... we had enough trouble with our own utopian society pukes ... so not you personally but 3out the 5 people you know did nothing and like cattle walked right into the box cars ... and drank the kool aide ....

 

it like we don't live in the same country ...."

 

Sad.. But kinda true..

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We definitely stand to benefit from the action. My point was that the other states aren't doing this to help the residents of NJ, they're doing it to protect themselves from FFF (Future Federal F***ing)

 

I'm glad that this is finally getting national attention from states that feel it could threaten their liberties and are stepping up to defend other states from constitutional injustice.

 

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Imagine if we lived someplace where the state protected our rights !

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Looks like a bunch of free states are going to dog pile onto the lawsuit to try to help us:

 

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2014/02/12/new-jersey-concealed-carry-law-under-fire-from-19-other-states-n1794200

 

I guess it can't hurt...

Yep, more here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/13/1-states-join-legal-fight-against-new-jersey-concealed-weapons-law/?intcmp=latestnews

 

"The other states joining in the effort are Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota and West Virginia."

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Let's not get our hopes up too much.  Even with a favorable ruling from SCOTUS, I have no doubt NJ will do everything in their power to make it incredibly cumbersome for us to get CCW permits.  I can see it now, $500 permit fees, mandatory training from the State Police that's conducted once a year on a Tuesday at 5am in the middle of nowhere and each class only has room for 10 people.

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Let's not get our hopes up too much.  Even with a favorable ruling from SCOTUS, I have no doubt NJ will do everything in their power to make it incredibly cumbersome for us to get CCW permits.  I can see it now, $500 permit fees, mandatory training from the State Police that's conducted once a year on a Tuesday at 5am in the middle of nowhere and each class only has room for 10 people.

 

Let's cross that bridge if/when we reach it. Right now the hurdle is getting the court to hear the case. If/when they give a favorable decision we can decide from there.

 

Remember that Illinois had its ban struck down. They could have gone with a restrictive law like NJ's but their pro gun reps fought hard for a SHALL issue bill. It's not perfect, hell it's not even reasonable, but it's much better than what they had before. 

 

Besides, once justifiable need is gone, the existing process should still apply. The legislature CAN choose to write a new law but they don't have to. And if they do, expect Allison McHose, Mike Carroll and the rest to come out in full force for us, as long as we still support them. 

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Let's not get our hopes up too much.  Even with a favorable ruling from SCOTUS, I have no doubt NJ will do everything in their power to make it incredibly cumbersome for us to get CCW permits.  I can see it now, $500 permit fees, mandatory training from the State Police that's conducted once a year on a Tuesday at 5am in the middle of nowhere and each class only has room for 10 people.

I just posted almost the same thing in the other topic running on the forum.  Man must be too much snow. People thinking the same

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