ACTION ALERT: Reschedule Date-> 3/13 Assembly Law&Public Safety Hearing

[ogfarmer 138]

 

Assembly Law and Public Safety Hearing on Thursday, March 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM

in Committee Room 12, 4th Floor, State House Annex, Trenton, NJ

 

A2006 Ammunition magazines-reduce to 10 rounds

A2295 Correctional facility-drug treatment program license

A2777 Firearms-defines deviations, transportation

 

The text of A2777 is now available on the NJ Legislation Website

PLEASE IMMEDIATELY CONTACT MEMBERS OF THE ASSEMBLY LAW & PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE!

 

MEMBERS OF THE NEW JERSEY ASSEMBLY LAW & PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE:

 

Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31)

[email protected]

Phone: 201-536-7851

Fax: 201-536-7854

 

Gilbert L. Wilson (Vice Chair) (D5)

[email protected]

Phone: 856-547-4800

Fax: 856-547-5496

 

Joseph Cryan (D20)

[email protected]

Phone: 908-624-0880

Fax: 908-624-0587

 

Gregory P. McGuckin (R10)

[email protected]

Phone: 732-840-9028

Fax: 732-840-9757

 

Erik Peterson (R23)

[email protected]

Phone: 908-238-0251

Fax: 908-238-0256

 

Nancy J. Pinkin (D18)

[email protected]

Phone: 732-548-1406

Fax: 732-548-1623

 

David P. Rible (R30)

[email protected]

Phone: 732-974-0400

Fax: 732-974-2564

 

Shavonda E. Sumter (D35)

[email protected]

Phone: 973-925-7061

Fax: 973-925-7067

 

 

 

http://njleg.org/

njleg.org

 

[email protected]

[louu 399]

Link does not work.

 

What do we do about this, I mighnt have that day off.

[ogfarmer 138]

link is to the calender, I added a link to main page and you can change the date to march 3rd or look at one of the bills here

 

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A2500/2006_I1.PDF

[pjd832 146]

Love the last paragraph..the "recent tragedy" of gabby giffords? Smh

 

"37 According to the sponsor, this legislation is in response to the

38 recent horrific tragedy in Arizona where the assailant utilized a

39 large capacity ammunition magazine in a shooting that resulted in

40 the deaths of six people and injuries to 13 others, including Arizona

41 Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

[HBecwithFn7 296]

 

2 Bills are scheduled for Monday March 3rd,

 

Assembly Law and Public Safety     Monday, March 03, 2014 - 1:00 PM     Meeting - Committee Room 12, 4th Floor, State House Annex, Trenton, NJ  

 

A-2777 (pending intro and referral) (Lagana/Mainor) Defines reasonable deviations in the course of transporting firearms.          

A2006 Ammunition magazines-reduce to 10 rounds

 

    

This link is NJ Leg page change date to march 3rd

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/default.asp

 

this link wont work from mobile but shows what of the agenda for march 3rd

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/BillsForAgendaView.asp

 

 

So... they're going ahead with this?... I find it interesting that A2777 (which is, supposedly, the trade off we get for giving up 15 rounds ) is "pending intro & referral" (meaning I believe, that it hasn't yet been introduced as a bill), but that A2006, the bill to give up 15 round mags, seems already formally introduced and is in full swing...

 

Does anyone have a read on Gov. Christie on this yet?  Just curious. I mean this could be nothing... just "formalities." It might not come out of committee and onto the full floor. But I seriously doubt they'd waste all this energy and power on something they'd have no hope of bringing to the floor for a vote. I may be wrong (and I hope I am), but I don't think so.

[M4BGRINGO 139]

There will be a TON of illegal mags in this state should this BS pass.

[louu 399]

M4BGRINGO there already is, all the drug dealers and criminals have 30 rounders for their AK's. What are the politicians doing about it, NOTHING. 

[ogfarmer 138]

FLASH ALERT!
ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE MOVING MAGAZINE BAN MONDAY!

At 1:00 pm on Monday, March 3, the Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee is scheduled to hear A2006, which would ban all magazines with a capacity over 10 rounds.

The Committee is also scheduled to hear A2777 (not yet introduced), supposedly addressing reasonable deviations in firearms transportation.

Please immediately start contacting members of the Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee and tell them to oppose A2006 and all new gun control. If you are able, please plan on attending the hearing in person.

The hearing will be in the State House Annex on West State Street in Trenton, and is currently scheduled for committee room 12 on the 4th floor (which may change by Monday)

ANJRPC will be issuing another alert tomorrow with detailed analysis of A2006.

PLEASE IMMEDIATELY CONTACT MEMBERS OF THE ASSEMBLY LAW & PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE!

MEMBERS OF THE NEW JERSEY ASSEMBLY LAW & PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE:

Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31)
[email protected]
Phone: 201-536-7851
Fax: 201-536-7854

Gilbert L. Wilson (Vice Chair) (D5)
[email protected]
Phone: 856-547-4800
Fax: 856-547-5496

Joseph Cryan (D20)
[email protected]
Phone: 908-624-0880
Fax: 908-624-0587

Gregory P. McGuckin (R10)
[email protected]
Phone: 732-840-9028
Fax: 732-840-9757

Erik Peterson (R23)
[email protected]
Phone: 908-238-0251
Fax: 908-238-0256

Nancy J. Pinkin (D18)
[email protected]
Phone: 732-548-1406
Fax: 732-548-1623

David P. Rible (R30)
[email protected]
Phone: 732-974-0400
Fax: 732-974-2564

Shavonda E. Sumter (D35)
[email protected]
Phone: 973-925-7061
Fax: 973-925-7067

http://njleg.org/

njleg.org

[email protected]

[45Doll 5,877]

I will send the appropriate emails and make the phone calls above. I won't bother to go to the sham hearing because I know it will be a waste of time. The fix is in, Sweeney has shed his tears in public, and the committee and legislature are going to pass this no matter what else is said. That's what they did last year, and after successfully retaining all their Democrat seats last November they're hardly motivated to change course now. I already bought the necessary 10 round magazines last year.

 

IMO it's much more important to contact the Republican (and any other) opponents of this bill to make sure they vote against it. And also contact Christie to entreat him to veto it. That's the only chance of victory we have in the short term. This scenario is the direct result of all the gun owners that sat home last November and squandered their chance to vote out the appropriate people.

 

In the long term, there's only three other options in this state to change the expected outcome:

 

1. A court remedy.

2. Massive civil disobedience. (And I mean MASSIVE.)

3. Open rebellion.

 

Given the overall voters' lethargic reaction to last years events in this state there is NO chance they're going to sufficiently participate in a # 2 or a #3.

 

So get used to it.

[Howard 538]

Faxes sent, phone calls made - thanks.

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

The fix is in, Sweeney has shed his tears in public, and the committee and legislature are going to pass this no matter what else is said. That's what they did last year, and after successfully retaining all their Democrat seats last November they're hardly motivated to change course now.

 

 

 

I would be shocked if it went any differently than this.  Our only hope is a Christie veto.  Once we have another Democratic governor, it's going to be all over.

[magnawing 5]

I would be shocked if it went any differently than this.  Our only hope is a Christie veto.  Once we have another Democratic governor, it's going to be all over.

I plan on being out of PRNJ and back in America by the time that happens.

[ogfarmer 138]

MAG BAN IS REALLY A GUN BAN!

Direct Attack On Gun Owners, Hunters and Sportsmen
Would Ban Popular American .22 Rifles!

Would Turn Current Owners Into Felons -
Up to TEN YEARS in Prison

No Grandfathering, No Amnesty

"Confiscate, Confiscate, Confiscate"

A2006 = GUN BAN

Anti-gun legislators' attempt to ban ammunition magazines over 10 rounds (A2006) is a lot more than "just" a magazine ban. It's also a gun ban that would outlaw some of the most popular .22 rifles in the United States, turn their owners into felons, and force them to abandon their property or go to jail for as long as ten years - essentially a confiscation.

Whether by stealth or stupidity, A2006 (scheduled to be heard in Assembly committee on Monday, March 3), would make the following change to existing law: "'Assault Firearm' means...A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 10 rounds."

This change would flat-out ban many common and popular tube-fed .22 rifles, including the partial list of guns that would be banned at the bottom of this alert.

Those in possession of these popular guns would be turned into felons overnight for possession of so-called "assault" firearms - a second degree crime in New Jersey carrying up to ten years in prison, with a minimum mandatory sentence of 3-5 years, with no chance of parole.

A2006 contains no grandfathering to protect current owners, and no amnesty period or procedure for current owners who wish to comply (in ironic contradiction to the legislature's creation of a limited "assault" firearms amnesty period in 2013, which has since expired). Existing owners would be thrown to the wolves - forced to abandon their property or go to prison - a form of confiscation.

Although NJ's anti-gun legislators have long denied any intention to confiscate firearms, their true intentions were exposed last year in shocking "hot mic" comments between legislators after a gun control hearing, in which they stated their wish to "confiscate, confiscate, confiscate" firearms.

A2006 MAGAZINE BAN

Less hidden in A2006 than the gun ban, is its stated purpose: to ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. This is based on the naïve and false assumption that removing a particular type of tool from society will somehow make everyone safer.

Those bent on doing evil will not be stopped or deterred just because a particular tool becomes less available or unavailable. If box cutters could bring down the World Trade Center, does anyone really believe that banning box cutters will stop the next terrorist attack? The same is true of firearms - banning a particular tool will not deter someone who is determined to do evil.

Also, criminals and madmen don't follow magazine bans, or any other type of ban for that matter. Criminals laugh at laws that target hardware. Only law-abiding citizens are affected by hardware bans, because they're the only ones that follow them. The net effect is that the law-abiding are put at a disadvantage against the lawless. The only thing that criminals understand is severe punishment.

Even if a magic wand could be waved in the land of anti-gun fantasy and remove all 10+ round magazines from the planet, no one would be made any safer, because magazines can be changed very quickly. The theory that a magazine change provides an opportunity to "tackle" an assailant is unsound and unsupported by the weight of the evidence.

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that police owe no duty to protect individual citizens from harm, which means that citizens are on their own in an emergency and cannot rely on 911. Yet rather than enhance the ability of citizens to defend themselves when an emergency or home invasion strikes, A2006 would instead tie their hands and put them at a disadvantage against criminals who will ignore the magazine ban.

Magazine bans are also completely arbitrary and their logic, if followed, have the potential to lead to a complete ban on all rounds. The idea that an eleventh round is somehow more lethal than the tenth is absurd, and the exact same logic could be applied to a second round in relation to the first, or even the first round itself.

The Constitutional right of self-defense is sacrosanct, and a magazine ban directly and significantly interferes with that right.

NOTE: A2777 (reasonable deviations in firearms transportation) has still not been posted online. We will have comment on that legislation when it becomes available.

PLEASE IMMEDIATELY TELL MEMBERS OF THE ASSEMBLY LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO DEFEAT THE A2006 GUN BAN AND MAGAZINE BAN!

Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31)
[email protected]
Phone: 201-536-7851
Fax: 201-536-7854
Gilbert L. Wilson (Vice Chair) (D5)
[email protected]
Phone: 856-547-4800
Fax: 856-547-5496
Joseph Cryan (D20)
[email protected]
Phone: 908-624-0880
Fax: 908-624-0587
Gregory P. McGuckin (R10)
[email protected]
Phone: 732-840-9028
Fax: 732-840-9757
Erik Peterson (R23)
[email protected]
Phone: 908-238-0251
Fax: 908-238-0256
Nancy J. Pinkin (D18)
[email protected]
Phone: 732-548-1406
Fax: 732-548-1623
David P. Rible (R30)
[email protected]
Phone: 732-974-0400
Fax: 732-974-2564
Shavonda E. Sumter (D35)
[email protected]
Phone: 973-925-7061
Fax: 973-925-7067

THE BAN LIST

FOLLOWING IS A PARTIAL LIST OF THE SEMI-AUTO .22 RIFLES*
THAT WOULD BE BANNED BY A2006:


Browning Auto .22 Rifles
Browning Auto-22 Rifle
Browning Auto-22 Grade VI
Browning BAR .22 Auto Rifle
Browning SA-22 Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
CBC N66 Auto rifle
Glenfield Model 40 rifle
Lakefield Arms Model 64B Auto Rifle
Marlin Glenfield 60 rifle
Marlin 552 BDL rifle
Marlin Model 60 Self Loading Rifles
Marlin Model 60C
Marlin Model 60SB
Marlin Model 60S-CF
Marlin Model 60SN
Marlin Model 60ss Self-Loading Rifle
Marlin Model 60 SSK rifle
Marlin Model 60 DLX rifle
Marlin Glenfield 75C rifle
Marlin Model 795
Marlin Model 795SS
Marlin Model 922 Magnum Self-Loading Rifle
Marlin 990 rifle
Marlin Model 990l Self-Loading Rifle
Marlin Model 995 Self-Loading Rifle
Mossberg 377 Plinkster rifle
Mossberg 702 Plinkster
Mossberg - Other Variants
Norinco Model 22 ATD Rifle
Remington 552 rifle
Remington 552A rifle
Remington 552BDL Speedmaster Rifle
Remington Model 522 Viper Autoloading Rifle
Remington Nylon 66 rifle
Remington Nylon 66AB rifle
Remington Nylon 66
Savage 990DL rifle
Stevens 987-T rifle
Taurus Model 63 rifle
Weatherby Mark XXII Tubular rifle
Winchester 190
Winchester 290
Winchester- Other Variants

[anactivegrenade 25]

Did my part today and called each assembly-person's office. I reposted this on the NJ2AS facebook page.

[2Alpha 6]

Anyone else getting stuck in their voicemail system?  I can't even leave a message

[deerpark 83]

Anyone else getting stuck in their voicemail system?  I can't even leave a message

 

No, I called every number and was able to speak to someone and leave my feedback.

 

Although I called earlier in the day. 

[Michael2013 56]

Anyone else getting stuck in their voicemail system?  I can't even leave a message

Yes, I couldn't get to the chairman of the committee, no live response, and "mail full" - can't leave a message.

[voyager9 3,434]

Got this reply from ASM Rible

lease know I share your views that this measure unfairly punishes law

abiding gun owners and therefore, I plan to oppose this measure when it

comes before me for a vote.

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

Cryan and Mainor are two who would bring this http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A1000/673_I1.HTM goodness into our lives, too!

 

Automatic felony and prohibited person status!! What more could you ask for ??

[deerpark 83]

Cryan and Mainor are two who would bring this http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A1000/673_I1.HTM goodness into our lives, too!

 

Automatic felony and prohibited person status!! What more could you ask for ??

 

And I wonder how it would be enforced...

 

Home searches of all registered owners? 

[HBecwithFn7 296]

Cryan and Mainor are two who would bring this http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A1000/673_I1.HTM goodness into our lives, too!

 

Automatic felony and prohibited person status!! What more could you ask for ??

 

Yeah, this is totally whacked... What does "on your person" mean? Do I have to wear it around my waist when I'm sleeping? Can I not put my HD/SD weapon in a locked case like a Gunvault but "at the ready" for immediate use if there's a break-in (i.e. "condition 1")?

 

I could see this for non HD/SD weapons (and I practice that already). But the point of having an HD/SD weapon is to have it at the ready. We need to be allowed to store it in a gun safe loaded.

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

Regarding A673, I guess that the sponsors and co-sponsors didn't get the Heller memo.

[ManWithBeard 2]

Regarding A673, I guess that the sponsors and co-sponsors didn't get the Heller memo.

It's blatantly obvious NJ legislatures don't give two squats about what Heller says.

[deerpark 83]

Cryan and Mainor are two who would bring this http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A1000/673_I1.HTM goodness into our lives, too!

 

Automatic felony and prohibited person status!! What more could you ask for ??

 

This is an indirect way to introduce home searches.  How else would this be enforced? 

 

Yeah, this is totally whacked... What does "on your person" mean? Do I have to wear it around my waist when I'm sleeping?

 

People will need to buy "gun suits".  Once you get home, youll put on your "suit" which will allow you to holster all of your firearms, all of the time.

 

Something like this but with additional pockets and corresponding pants:

 

[Howard 538]

Cars are dangerous too, and kids could get the keys and kill someone or themselves.  Therefore, NJ must mandate that you drain all the gasoline from your car each time you get out.   When will these idiots stop - how can people vote for such morons?

[deerpark 83]

We're gettin a snow storm.

 

Will Trenton be closed on Monday? 

[Respect2A 0]

Yeah I bet it will be closed.

 

 

I think cops should also carry their guns unloaded and with a trigger lock on it as well. I hate these assholes.

[ogfarmer 138]

dont worry they'll vote via google hangout,

[HBecwithFn7 296]

Yeah I bet it will be closed.

 

 

I think cops should also carry their guns unloaded and with a trigger lock on it as well. I hate these assholes.

 

Closed to the "public," perhaps, but I'll be the committee will be "escorted" there to meet, anyway. Why waste a perfect opportunity to *not* deal with a huge crowd?

[njpilot 671]

Sounds like they're getting desperate to pass anything that would affect/piss off lawful gun owners.

 

Will "drunk boy" a "big booty lover" be sending local and state police into the "abodes" of gang bangers in Trenton, Camden, Newark, etc to insure that they are complying with this stupidity?