Norseman 2 Posted February 28, 2014 Listen we are getting as many people as we can to go protest this 10 round limit "ban" hearing on Monday. Some of you don't have Facebook so I'll just let you know we are up to 31 definite and 29 maybe. We need EVERYONE to turn out. Don't wuss out like we did at the polls last November! And also: please dress neat ...business casual or better. We don't want them portraying us as dumb or something on tv or in the media. Let's put our best foot forward in every way we can. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 28, 2014 Women and children are a plus! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizzzarddemon 0 Posted February 28, 2014 Any car pooling from sussex county Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbkid6974 1 Posted February 28, 2014 if i didnt have to use 4 vacation days this year already i would be there. i have called sweeneys office and emailed as well as my own reps. fight the good fight guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cmor1701d 0 Posted February 28, 2014 I have contacted all my local reps, but Mondays are meeting days. Stuck in the office all day. That's part if the problem. Too many law abiding sporting shooters cannot take time off from work to protest in Trenton or elsewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deerpark 83 Posted February 28, 2014 Any details on where to go (room, floor etc.) and what time? Should we be prepared to speak? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark_anthony_78 0 Posted February 28, 2014 When I attended last year, the staff and State Police at the annex directed everyone to the right rooms (we overflowed into another area with a video feed). Everyone filled out a form indicating their position on each bill (i.e. oppose ALL if they were all anti-gun) and that form had a spot to indicate if you wanted to testify/speak. They then (theoretically) pick an even number of pro/con to speak, even if they crowd is 90% against the bill. At any given time there are 3 or 4 people at the table to speak (all from one viewpoint). Expect them to lose interest real quick if you wax poetic about the Constitution. Find technical faults with the law. Then watch as they ignore everything that was said while the AYE votes pour in at lightning speed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 28, 2014 At 1:00 pm on Monday, March 3, The hearing will be in the State House Annex on West State Street in Trenton, and is currently scheduled for committee room 12 on the 4th floor (which may change by Monday) thread about the action alert bill details http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/66829-action-alert-303-assembly-lawpublic-safety-hearing/#entry849070 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence Dogood 468 Posted February 28, 2014 Silence will be there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 509 Posted February 28, 2014 RECAP FROM LAST YEAR Last year it was easy.- Parking is right off of State Street. Enter the parking garage in front of the state house - the garage is under the statehouse. Tell the trooper at the gate that you're there for the committee hearing and he'll let you in. Follow signs and ask direction - security is at every turn and they are extremely helpful. They will get you to where you need to be. Prepare to be metal detected a few times. Last year we filled the hearing room with over 150 seats and filled a second overflow hearing room with as many seats and had a big crowd outside that could not get in. NJ2AS really pushed for attendance last year but isn't really doing much this year so I don't know what the crowds will look like. I got there 2 hours early last year to be sure I'd have a seat and had to sneak around the back of the room and set up my own row of folding chairs I found on a rolling cart in the hall or I would have been in the overflow room. I couldn't see a thing but I could hear everything. The speakers were great. Anyone can testify - they give you a card to fill out and they call your name and give you a limited amount of time to speak. Of course not everyone got a turn. Two dozen people showed up in favor of the bills last year and were brought into reserved seating in the front. The hundreds of us against the bills were told no reserved seating - get up to go to the bathroom and loose your seat. 3 or 4 communists spoke in favor of the bills and were given as much speaking time as they wanted with no rules. The 75 or more that spoke in opposition were given 3 minutes each and were not allowed to discuss anything except technicalities of the bills - don't mention the constitution - they don't like that. If you remind them who actually works for whom you can get yourself escorted out by the state police. Actually the troopers that were there for security (and there were a lot of them) were great - they were trying to find room for more seats and the conversation was friendly and casual for the two hours before things actually started and they were going out of their way to be good hosts. One civilian security guard told a bunch of us that he was glad we showed up and wished us good luck "blocking this b#!! sh!7". And then they they voted and ignored everything that we said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted February 28, 2014 If i recall correctly, us you opposed all bills proposed you were not given a time to speak until the end, and it was 2 minutes for all bills total. However those who did not select all bills got to go up for each bill for 2 minutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted February 28, 2014 It's going to be a weather mess on Monday, good luck. I hate to be fatalistic, but the vote is already settled, so the debate is simply a ritual that must occur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nucrunner 75 Posted February 28, 2014 Some excellent post so far, if I can get off from work I'll go - these "what to expect" posts will be very helpful. And if I can't get there, I've spent all spare time for the past week on phone calls, emails, FB, and Twitter - hopefully it helps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 0 Posted February 28, 2014 Ill be there. Look for the guy with the 45 cal cuff links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark_anthony_78 0 Posted February 28, 2014 As far as parking, I wasn't sure what the State House garage rules were so I used a public garage a few blocks east of the capital buildings. Easy in/out and a 5 minute walk through a not-scary part of town. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norseman 2 Posted March 2, 2014 Yeah that's where I parked last time. Right around the corner ...I actually parked at a meter on the street. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted March 3, 2014 I watching the weather now to see if I'm going Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted March 3, 2014 But yeah, they already made up their mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted March 3, 2014 http://readynj.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/nj-state-offices-closed-monday-march-3-2013-essential-employees-report/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted March 3, 2014 http://readynj.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/nj-state-offices-closed-monday-march-3-2013-essential-employees-report/ NJ State Offices Closed Monday March 3, 2014, Essential Employees Report This entry was posted on March 3, 2014, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. The Governor has determined that All State Offices Statewide will be closed Monday, March 3, 2014, due hazardous weather conditions. Non-essential employees should not report for their normal day shift. Essential employees should report to work on schedule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted March 3, 2014 Does the fact that this is a useless fn bill make all committee members non-essential? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ymg200 1 Posted March 3, 2014 Is it true that the hearing is postponed because of the weather? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted March 3, 2014 no one knows for sure if its cancelled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 3, 2014 If the schools close I'm on kid duty, so I'll be out. I did send emails, as did my mom. She got a reply from one... Thank you for contacting me regarding A2006 which reduces the maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. Please know I share your views that this measure unfairly punishes law abiding gun owners and therefore, I plan to oppose this measure when it comes before me for a vote. Thank you for taking the time to provide me with your views and please feel to contact me if I can ever be of assistance in this or any other matter. Sincerely, David P. Rible Assemblyman, 30th District Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ymg200 1 Posted March 3, 2014 Just received from ANJRPC: MONDAY HEARING TO BE RESCHEDULED! We have received word that the March 3 meeting of the Assembly Law & Public Safety Committee is being rescheduled as a result of winter storm Titan. We will issue an alert with details of the rescheduled meeting as soon as we have them. Please spread the word. In the meanwhile, please continue to contact members of the Committee and urge them to oppose A2006 (gun ban/ magazine ban), and to amend A2777 (transportation of firearms) to make a one-word amendment to restore judicial discretion on reasonable deviations in transport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 3, 2014 anyone else's tin foil hat make them wonder of CC made the closure call just to delay him having to deal with this? I mean let's say they had the meeting today. When would they vote? When would be the earliest it would be on CC's desk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deerpark 83 Posted March 3, 2014 anyone else's tin foil hat make them wonder of CC made the closure call just to delay him having to deal with this? I mean let's say they had the meeting today. When would they vote? When would be the earliest it would be on CC's desk? I dont put anything past these guys but they were calling for a lot of snow. So far I think we've got 1 1/2 inches? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted March 3, 2014 anyone else's tin foil hat make them wonder of CC made the closure call just to delay him having to deal with this? I mean let's say they had the meeting today. When would they vote? When would be the earliest it would be on CC's desk? I think that's a stretch.. even up to yesterday evening they were still calling for 8-14" here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted March 3, 2014 If I had a tin foil hat on for anything it would be for them to have the vote today anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted March 4, 2014 NO. CHRIS CHRISTIE DID NOT DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY TO DELAY THE VOTE ON THE MAGAZINE REDUCTION. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites