Phillies 2 Posted March 26, 2014 But if that would still be illegal then how are all of our AR15/AK47/M14 variants legal?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintoon Eastwood 2 Posted March 26, 2014 I believe even original WW2 carbines do not have m1 carbine stamped anywhere on them. They are marked 30ML or something like that. I believe there are a few postwar models that are stamped M1 carbine. It is really annoying that there is no real clarification from the AG. The m1 carbine situation is like calling every Ar style rifle an Ar15 even though they are not marked that way. 95% of all M1 Carbines are stamped:"US CARBINE""CAL 30 M1"Sent from an undisclosed location. http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t533/clint-on/20130725_124844_zps16e07227.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted March 27, 2014 But if that would still be illegal then how are all of our AR15/AK47/M14 variants legal?? Because they are not marked AR, AK, or M14. "M1 carbine type" is how they are referred to in the law. If the law said "AR type" they all would be illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wink-_-wink 1 Posted March 27, 2014 Because they are not marked AR, AK, or M14. "M1 carbine type" is how they are referred to in the law. If the law said "AR type" they all would be illegal. SHHHHHHHH dont give them any ideas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted March 27, 2014 Stop asking for permission for these things. Every. Damned. Time. You people gotta run on home to the AG and ask "mother may I" and they turn around and say "no". Just buy it, own it, shoot it... oh, and shut up about it. Regardless, this rifle doesn't really score high marks from what I've read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted March 28, 2014 Stop asking for permission for these things. Every. Damned. Time. You people gotta run on home to the AG and ask "mother may I" and they turn around and say "no". Just buy it, own it, shoot it... oh, and shut up about it. Regardless, this rifle doesn't really score high marks from what I've read. THAT is why I don't own an Auto Ordnance .30 cal rifle. Asshats kept calling, and the one day the guy from Firearms Unit wasn't there it got kicked upstairs, allegedly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted March 28, 2014 THAT is why I don't own an Auto Ordnance .30 cal rifle. Asshats kept calling, and the one day the guy from Firearms Unit wasn't there it got kicked upstairs, allegedly. Bingo. Too many nervous Nancy gun owners and FFLs... Meanwhile in Connecticut, you got people defying orders to turn in their "assault weapons"... NJ Gun owners: "please oh please Mr. Attorney General, may I have this and that?" It's your right to own these things, even if the law says you can't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galapoola 102 Posted March 28, 2014 Stop asking for permission for these things. Every. Damned. Time. You people gotta run on home to the AG and ask "mother may I" and they turn around and say "no". Just buy it, own it, shoot it... oh, and shut up about it. Regardless, this rifle doesn't really score high marks from what I've read. Yeah, that's what happened with the last one from Auto Ordinance, some NJSP guy wrote a letter stating it was ok, then too much chatter and the dumb 1st AG that Christie appointed made everyone who bought one return them or else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted March 28, 2014 When you ask the AG, the answer is ALWAYS NO. Do you really think they really look into this? Anything with firearms is an AUTOMATIC NO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted March 28, 2014 Then lets just buy one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted March 28, 2014 THAT is why I don't CAN'T own an Auto Ordnance .30 cal rifle. Asshats kept calling, and the one day the guy from Firearms Unit wasn't there it got kicked upstairs, allegedly. Fixed that for you...it isnt a matter of you "Don't" own one..there isnt an option to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted March 28, 2014 For fear of derailing the thread I'll just.. It isnt worth it..believe me Nick Paula Dow had EVERY INTENTION of expanding on what she did with Auto Ordnance, and a few months later I.O. Inc. AK clones she was working on getting ALL previously Legal AK's banned, and after that AR's. The Auto Ordnance Markings were different than the Factory Carbine Markings. Just as Arsenal or Saiga markings are different than "Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47", and just as say "Spike's Tactical SL-15" is different than "Colt Ar-15" By doing what she did with Auto Ord, she was trying to push open the door for a REAL AWB to go into place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roktory 5 Posted June 17, 2014 i see these Citadel 9mm carbine for sale on line any idea if NJ Legal?? do Dealer get some kind of list of what they can and can not sell? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted June 17, 2014 The problem with the M1 Carbine is in the law it states "M1 Carbine type" putting these in the no-no category. Other banned firearms are listed by name only, hence the exceedingly "gray area". Wanna be the first to find out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted June 22, 2014 The problem with the M1 Carbine is in the law it states "M1 Carbine type" putting these in the no-no category. Other banned firearms are listed by name only, hence the exceedingly "gray area". Wanna be the first to find out? with all due respect that logic could be applied to AK rifles as well... and there are countless of those owned in NJ.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites