Norseman 2 Posted April 16, 2014 Man you guys have me so stoked to do this!! LOL Thanks again so much for the wealth of info you guys have shared! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted April 16, 2014 Almost forgot to mention, caliber conversion kits aren't legal for USPSA Prouction. I'm not sure if they're allowed for IDPA. Russel - can you cite the rule that you are referring to? I found 21.3 which talks about replacing slides and barrels with aftermarket or factory components of the same length, contour and caliber for that model gun. Not the specific gun a competitor possesses, but that model. A P226 is available from the factory in 9 mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W - and there is no designation on the gun, only the barrel. It would seem to me that as long as it is a factory kit - or even an aftermarket one that mimics the length and contour of the OEM parts, a caliber conversion kit, in this case, would be fine. There is language, in the rules, in IDPA that make this questionable (8.2.1.3.11), but I would hold the same applies - it doesn't matter what caliber the gun started life as, as long as the current caliber is available in that model. Just speculating. To the OP - don't rush out and buy a kit - shoot your Sig as a .40 until you get some miles under you. The fractions of a second you may save are moot at this point in your learning curve. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russell 3 Posted April 16, 2014 Hmmm, interesting point, that is the rule I was referring to. I'm used to Glocks where the model #s are different for different calibers, but for the Sig it's the same model # for 9mm and .40. There could be an issue with the "contour" part of the rule as the .40 to 9mm conversion barrel might have a different outside diameter than the OEM 9mm barrel (at least that's how Glock conversion barrels work). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvheitz 5 Posted April 16, 2014 What can I say, we go there to shoot not conserve ammo... At one point we were running 4 full stages, some up to 32 rounds. Since the crowd has picked up we are back to 2 stages 2 speed shoots. Also we now have online registration, makes life a lot easier and we can get started much quicker. https://www.formstack.com/forms/?1708227-7of745k4Z2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted April 16, 2014 Russel - can you cite the rule that you are referring to? I found 21.3 which talks about replacing slides and barrels with aftermarket or factory components of the same length, contour and caliber for that model gun. Not the specific gun a competitor possesses, but that model. A P226 is available from the factory in 9 mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W - and there is no designation on the gun, only the barrel. It would seem to me that as long as it is a factory kit - or even an aftermarket one that mimics the length and contour of the OEM parts, a caliber conversion kit, in this case, would be fine. Nope, this question was asked of NROI, repeatedly, the answer is NO. You can not change the caliber of a firearm from what it came as from the factory. Of course, if you say buy a 9mm top end for a .40 M&P without tracing the serial number no one can tell. If you for example swap in a 9mm in the 40 slide then someone could tell. Reality time: no one cares. If you go to an area match or the nationals someone might care or notice that you have a 9mm barrel in a 40 slide, but no one in their right mind even at that level will check serial number against original caliber. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 16, 2014 Hmmm, interesting point, that is the rule I was referring to. I'm used to Glocks where the model #s are different for different calibers, but for the Sig it's the same model # for 9mm and .40. There could be an issue with the "contour" part of the rule as the .40 to 9mm conversion barrel might have a different outside diameter than the OEM 9mm barrel (at least that's how Glock conversion barrels work). I was told when I first started shooting that I could not use my 9mm KKM conversion barrel in my Glock G22 for USPSA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverc6 0 Posted April 16, 2014 You can shoot 9 out of your G22, but if you are shooting production, technically you will be bumped into open. In a local match, no one cares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 16, 2014 Interesting. So does that mean I could shoot it in limited 10 minor with the conversion barrel? I understand I can't shoot it in production as the barrel is not an oem barrel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted April 16, 2014 Interesting. So does that mean I could shoot it in limited 10 minor with the conversion barrel? I understand I can't shoot it in production as the barrel is not an oem barrel. Yep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverc6 0 Posted April 16, 2014 You can, but why would you want to shoot minor in L10? You can just shoot the G22 by itself(as a .40) in L10 and score major(as long a you make mpf). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 16, 2014 You can, but why would you want to shoot minor in L10? You can just shoot the G22 by itself(as a .40) in L10 and score major(as long a you make mpf). Because I am not that fast, but I am generally very accurate. Thus, I can get my hits better with my CZ75B shooting 9mm and if I get almost all alphas with the 9mm going to major doesn't really help me. I will see if that still hold with my G35 which I do shoot better than the G22. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSigfan 218 Posted April 17, 2014 This is a great thread! Thank you to everyone that has posted and offered up some help to newbies like myself. I'm definitely going to follow this thread and hopefully participate in the May event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louu 399 Posted May 4, 2014 I already own a riggers belt with a raptor clip. Fits through all my belt loops. I guess the 2 loop rule is where you place your holsters? I checked out blade-tech. They have a IDPA stater kit: http://shop.blade-tech.com/idpa-competition-shooters-pack-c-1_130.html So if I got with my Sig all i would need is one more mag, that starter kit, and appropriate ammo. Did you order this from Blade Tech, how long did it take to get? I ordered it today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted May 4, 2014 Did you order this from Blade Tech, how long did it take to get? I ordered it today I have not ordered it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted May 4, 2014 Or you could order it from Amazon and get it in 2 days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louu 399 Posted May 6, 2014 All man I didn't even know Amazon had them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russell 3 Posted May 6, 2014 Did you order this from Blade Tech, how long did it take to get? I ordered it today I ordered a holster from them a few weeks ago when they were having a sale. It took 3 weeks to get to me, not too bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louu 399 Posted May 27, 2014 Got my Blade Tec holster and mag pouch today and let me tell you it was well worth the wait. It is really nice and I can come out of the holster so much faster than the one that came with the Range Officer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted May 28, 2014 Got my Blade Tec holster and mag pouch today and let me tell you it was well worth the wait. It is really nice and I can come out of the holster so much faster than the one that came with the Range Officer. good to hear! if only i could stop horsing around with these ARs and get my pistol stuff together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites