mb104 0 Posted May 14, 2014 I've narrowed my search for my next handgun to either the Springfield XDs (.45 cal) or the Walther PPQ (.40 cal). I've carried all types of handguns in all calibers but currently carry a Sig P239 (.40 cal). It's just too heavy and bulky for what I want. I'm not looking for other gun suggestions, but would appreciate any personal experiences you have had with either the Springfield and/or the Walther. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted May 14, 2014 This might help you out, i don't own either... i fondled the XDs, the PPQ was a little bigger then i wanted.. wound up with a p938 http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-handguns/194297-xds-vs-pps.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted May 14, 2014 If size is your concern, the XDs is probably better since it's smaller, but the two guns are rather hard to compare. A .45 sub compact to a .40 compact? Too much difference in size, capacity. The PPQ will do some things better than the XDs and vice versa. You need to decide what's most important to you and pick the gun that does it best. As for personal experience, I own and shoot a Walther PPQ in 9mm. It's the only handgun I shoot and I recommend it to anyone who asks. Trigger is great. Ergos are great. Reliable. etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 14, 2014 I own both in 9mm and there very different. The size difference is a major factor. The XDs is not comfortable for alot of lead down range for me since its grips are small. It also is only accurate at shorter distance due to shorter barrel length. Now the PPPQ is super comfortable and super accurate, and alot more fun to shoot on the range with. It is also carry-able. I personally wouldn't buy it in 40 but thats just me, I do not like the snap of 40 cal's. I don't know your hand size so I think you got to see what fits best and most comfortable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayWilling 33 Posted May 15, 2014 I know nothing about the PPQ but I have an XDs in 45. In my opinion it is VERY well balanced for shooting 45acp out of a tiny, light gun. The grip is ok, with my pinky hanging off on the 5 rd mag and the 7 round mag feels almost like a 1911. A friend with a G30 shoots my XDs as well or better than his gun. I'm a lousy shot but I shoot the XDs as well as any pistol I own, and I really love it. It cycles everything I have fed it except for lead semi wad cutters. 5 rounds is a concern, but it's also a concern if you carry a snubby. BUT with the 5 rd mag it is extremely concealable. I'm a fan of the XDs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lien 1 Posted May 15, 2014 I own both in 9mm and there very different. The size difference is a major factor. The XDs is not comfortable for alot of lead down range for me since its grips are small. It also is only accurate at shorter distance due to shorter barrel length. Now the PPPQ is super comfortable and super accurate, and alot more fun to shoot on the range with. It is also carry-able. I personally wouldn't buy it in 40 but thats just me, I do not like the snap of 40 cal's. I don't know your hand size so I think you got to see what fits best and most comfortable. I own both the XDs45 and PPQ M2 9mm and agree with ogfarmer. The PPQ is my favorite and the most comfortable pistol I have ever used. The XDs is much smaller and tough to shoot accurately at distance for me. But I have since installed Pearce grip extensions which gives my pinky a spot to rest making handling the XDs much more enjoyable and accurate. They are very different and intended for different purposes. 5rds vs 15rds is very significant. The XDs will conceal carry well but not the PPQ for me. Both pistols come with a nice variety of accessories as well. Excellent choice either way in my opinion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRiverII 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Xds with a pachmyer grip. It changes the whole character of feel, from holding a 1x2 piece of lumber to a slightly rounded comfortable handle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 15, 2014 The pachmeyer grip is good but you need to pay attention to it cause it rides up or down and can affect the safety or mAg insertion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted May 15, 2014 Just buy a shield this signature exceeds the 15 character count capacity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted May 16, 2014 No comparison...go with the PPQ! Any reason you aren't considering a 9mm though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted May 16, 2014 I have not shot a .40 cal PPQ but I do own a 9mm M1 and it is an amazing pistol. Also have you considered a m&p in .45? I just got the compact model and with the Apex trigger system it is really sweet. I like the feel of both of the above mentioned pistols vs. the Springfield. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted May 16, 2014 I carry an xds. 45 just about every day (altho some t-shirts allow to carry my gen 4 Glock 21 (while wearing cargo shorts and a t shirt) also carry an xdm 40 compact as well My post recall trigger was awful in the xds. Gritty and 8.5 lbs. With prp spring kit got it to 8. Adjusting grip safety spring got me down to 5.5lbs smooth. Prior, I could barely hit paper Yesterday was 1st time shooting post trigger work. Proceeded to punch a bullseye with 1st 6 rounds. I was even able to red bullseye 2 out of 15 at 25 yards. Something I've never done with any gun. I now trust it with my life and no longer worry about my ability to hit with it. Wish it had more rounds but with the extended mag in pocket I still have 13 rounds of 230g +p bonded hollows. Days i need more and can't carry my others i will pocket carry my cm9 with the xds strong side and not worry about it. Xds is a fine firearm once you get the trigger adjusted properly (if post recall issues) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRiverII 0 Posted May 17, 2014 Pachmyer does move OG. I've yet to do any range work since getting it back from springfield. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lublin 3 Posted May 19, 2014 PPQ. Rented one today. I'm a believer. My permits can't come in fast enough. Definitely buying one in 9mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 19, 2014 PPQ. Rented one today. I'm a believer. My permits can't come in fast enough. Definitely buying one in 9mm Good choice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnz 49 Posted May 19, 2014 I own a xds , it's my ccw when down south, but have dry fired the PPQ. The trigger on the PPQ is amazing. The trigger on the XDS is rough. In my opinion, they really aren't comparable because of their size. As a range piece I would go PPQ as a CCW I would go xds purely based on size. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paltik 3 Posted May 19, 2014 One permit to burn... I guess i'm going with a ppq Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted May 20, 2014 I own a xds , it's my ccw when down south, but have dry fired the PPQ. The trigger on the PPQ is amazing. The trigger on the XDS is rough. In my opinion, they really aren't comparable because of their size. As a range piece I would go PPQ as a CCW I would go xds purely based on size. That's easily fixable mine was 8.5 lbs and shitty. Now smooth 5.5 and second only to my 1911 0r maybe my 226 when in single action mode. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnz 49 Posted May 20, 2014 That's easily fixable mine was 8.5 lbs and shitty. Now smooth 5.5 and second only to my 1911 0r maybe my 226 when in single action mode. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Pm me with what you did. I would love to know! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted May 20, 2014 Pm me with what you did. I would love to know! Here it is for everyone: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-s-discussion-room/246808-post-recall-trigger-reducing-pull-weight.html I also installed the pro spring kit but not as much a factor as the safety spring adjustment. I also did .25 trigger job which smoothed out any grit. Its PERFECT now!!!! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnz 49 Posted May 20, 2014 Here it is for everyone: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-s-discussion-room/246808-post-recall-trigger-reducing-pull-weight.html I also installed the pro spring kit but not as much a factor as the safety spring adjustment. I also did .25 trigger job which smoothed out any grit. Its PERFECT now!!!! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 I will give the video a look. The ergonomics of the pistol are great , and I want to love this gun, and right now the trigger kills it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted May 20, 2014 I will give the video a look. The ergonomics of the pistol are great , and I want to love this gun, and right now the trigger kills it! If it wasn't for my recent trigger mods i would have traded the gun off. Instead it's now my favorite and my usual edc. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mb104 0 Posted May 25, 2014 Just buy a shield I did. After researching and actually using the XDs, the Walther PPQ, and the Shield, I settled on the shield. They are all very good handguns, each with their own positive features. I hadn't intended to even consider the shield, but I have a few compadres who have them so I decided to toss them into the mix. When it was all said and done, the shield was the most comfortable for me to shoot and carry. I know there are some die-hard XDs and Walther fans here, and I appreciate all of your input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted May 25, 2014 Congrats! I just got back from a week in the Netherlands and I can't wait to shoot my shield this signature exceeds the 15 character count capacity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites