Carcano 14 Posted September 8, 2014 Worse....unless I'm mistaken, he collected the state sales tax and didn't send it to the state. Wow... the only thing worth bidding there is the tools and i noticed someone did. the rest is a waste. Yeah the tools are decent from the pics/list on the auction, if I had floor space I would take that drill press. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2014 Those safes MIGHT have been intact prior to the state seizing the property... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 9, 2014 Those safes MIGHT have been intact prior to the state seizing the property... I doubt it from the pics, looks like they were that way for a while. I can't see why the owner of BA would refuse to provide the combo to the safes and force the State to drill/cut them open (just IMO) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeythumbs 1 Posted September 9, 2014 I doubt it from the pics, looks like they were that way for a while. I can't see why the owner of BA would refuse to provide the combo to the safes and force the State to drill/cut them open (just IMO) I wonder if the owner was even their when they took the stuff. I can't imagine him being aware of the raid before hand so who knows the state might not have ha a choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2014 I can't see why the owner of BA would refuse to provide the combo to the safes and force the State to drill/cut them open (just IMO) I guess you've never toured a foreclosed home huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 9, 2014 I guess you've never toured a foreclosed home huh? Close...our family had a construction company in South Jersey that was seized by the State and office safes, cabinets, etc. were smashed open. We lost around $35 Million in equipment and real estate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 9, 2014 I guess you've never toured a foreclosed home huh? Of course we didn't rip pipes out of walls, etc. as many foreclosed homes are damaged before (or even after) the bank gets them out of spite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 9, 2014 I wonder if the owner was even their when they took the stuff. I can't imagine him being aware of the raid before hand so who knows the state might not have ha a choice. I would think the Div. of Taxation and NJSP would have showed up at his home the morning of the raid.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucin 923 Posted September 9, 2014 I don't think all 4 lots are worth $500. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 9, 2014 I don't think all 4 lots are worth $500. The one with the tools, etc. is worth a few hundred but that's about it. I was hoping to see some nice stuff on the block Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 50 Posted September 9, 2014 I don't think all 4 lots are worth $500.If you already sell gun stuff and have a shop set up the gun accessory lot is probably worth the $500. If not then its a waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FocuzMan 0 Posted September 9, 2014 It's all pretty much garbage, no ammo. Just the crap that collected dust in the "store". I'm not surprised the tools are ryobi either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted September 9, 2014 Is old Phil still MIA? Perhaps he fled NJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 9, 2014 Is old Phil still MIA? Perhaps he fled NJ. Maybe he took off when he felt the heat, I have his home address I should stop by Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyJet 0 Posted September 11, 2014 I left a message asking Steve Pisani ( NJ Div of Taxation Investigating Agent) to call me, reference a Saiga rifle I had at Brick Armory when it was closed. He called me on Monday, 8 Sep and told me that the NJ Division of Taxation was working with Brick Armory with the intention of reopening the business if issues could be worked out. If that did not happen he said he would contact me and tell me where I would be able to go to claim and pick up my firearm from a secure location controlled by his office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 11, 2014 tell them that could months, and you want your stuff now, sounds like lip service delays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSD1026 48 Posted September 11, 2014 working on re-opening the business.. but they just auctioned all the shit off.. lol.. something doesnt work with that equation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted September 11, 2014 working on re-opening the business.. but they just auctioned all the shit off.. lol.. something doesnt work with that equation Exactly how can he afford to buy new inventory? Who is John Galt? I am so excited I figured out how to change my signature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted September 11, 2014 Exactly how can he afford to buy new inventory? Who is John Galt? I am so excited I figured out how to change my signature. Step 1: get in trouble with the IRSStep 2: ? Step 3: profit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted September 11, 2014 I left a message asking Steve Pisani ( NJ Div of Taxation Investigating Agent) to call me, reference a Saiga rifle I had at Brick Armory when it was closed. He called me on Monday, 8 Sep and told me that the NJ Division of Taxation was working with Brick Armory with the intention of reopening the business if issues could be worked out. If that did not happen he said he would contact me and tell me where I would be able to go to claim and pick up my firearm from a secure location controlled by his office. What I don't understand is under what authority are they holding your property, in this case a firearm. I realize we aren't talking about normally thinking people, but it would seem to me, all things being equal, that they have confiscated your property and by all rights you should be offered the opportunity, today, to go claim it. No? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tj462nj 32 Posted September 11, 2014 how can the IRS let you claim your firearm while the business is closed, its just not that simple. A nics must be done & the IRS can't do that. Maybe the guns can be transferred to another dealer to do delivery, but also takes time & paperwork and who is going to pay the transfer fee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted September 11, 2014 Not the IRS but rather the NJ Dept of Taxation. That aside, I'm sure they can find someone to complete a NICS check if one is necessary to return the mans property. All they have to do is call the State Police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted September 11, 2014 If he is picking up a gunsmithed Saiga, then no NICS. But we all know how .gov agencies work. Good luck in seeing it before a few months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommyfeds 2 Posted September 11, 2014 Not the IRS but rather the NJ Dept of Taxation. That aside, I'm sure they can find someone to complete a NICS check if one is necessary to return the mans property. All they have to do is call the State Police. Soooo............you want one gov't agency to speak to another gov't agency is what you're sayin? To assist a mere mortal citizen of this PR of NJ......... ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 11, 2014 working on re-opening the business.. but they just auctioned all the shit off.. lol.. something doesnt work with that equation It's BULL SHIT, re-open my ass! they auctioned everything off but they are working on re-opening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 11, 2014 I left a message asking Steve Pisani ( NJ Div of Taxation Investigating Agent) to call me, reference a Saiga rifle I had at Brick Armory when it was closed. He called me on Monday, 8 Sep and told me that the NJ Division of Taxation was working with Brick Armory with the intention of reopening the business if issues could be worked out. If that did not happen he said he would contact me and tell me where I would be able to go to claim and pick up my firearm from a secure location controlled by his office. I would tell him I want my shit back NOW, with the way things in PRNJ work you might wait months to get your rifle back. And BA is trying to re-open? how? they are in debt, state auctioned everything off and they still plan to re-open? I would call BA's bluff and tell the person from NJ Div. of Taxation I want my rifle back NOW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted September 11, 2014 Info found on the web: From: NEW JERSEY STATUTES AND CODES 33:1-62 - Return of illegally seized property 33:1-62. Return of illegally seized property In case any person shall be deprived of any property, or the possession of any property, under color of any search warrant, except substantially in accordance with the procedure herein set forth, the issuing magistrate, upon timely application therefor, shall require the return of said property, except such property as shall be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be unlawful property. And also, from the web page: http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/organization/fieldinv.shtml "Tax Enforcement involves personal contact with businesses and individuals to explain the progressive steps and actions that will be taken by Field Investigations in order to secure delinquent tax returns and tax underpayments, registrations and licenses. If the taxpayer is not cooperative, the Field Investigator will issue the due process notices required prior to obtaining a Certificate of Debt, an administrative judgment, to protect the State’s interest. With a Certificate of Debt filed with the NJ Superior Court, the Field Investigator will generate a Warrant of Execution in order to act to collect the tax debt. Before the seizure of a vehicle, a liquor license or the business itself, a final warning is given to the taxpayer encouraging payment arrangements. Thereafter, with continued non-compliance, the personal and business assets of the tax debtor are subject to seizure and subsequent sale at public auction. At any point prior to the auction sale, the taxpayer is encouraged to discuss payment options and to formalize a plan to pay the tax debt." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,773 Posted September 11, 2014 I called Steve Pissani for 4 straight days not ONE return call! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted September 12, 2014 I called Steve Pissani for 4 straight days not ONE return call! Try his email: [email protected] OR send a letter via Certified Mail to: Steven Pisani, Investigator New Jersey Division of Taxation Neptune Regional Office 1828 West Lake Ave Neptune, NJ 07753 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,773 Posted September 12, 2014 Thanks Carcano! I may pay his office a visit in the am.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites