notchbackgta 0 Posted September 25, 2014 http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/S1500/1287_I1.HTM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted September 25, 2014 Is this a new bill or one of those ones that gets reintroduced and slapped down every year? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted September 25, 2014 Feel good ink to paper, So someone can say hey I tried. It was refered to the Senate Law and public Safety committee. Gone, Buried and dead just like any bill involving NJ CCW Laws. (unless its a bill to worsen current wording) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted September 25, 2014 The date on the Bill is Feb 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notchbackgta 0 Posted September 26, 2014 Sorry I din't realize the date until after I posted it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 26, 2014 NJ2AS is asking for folks to get behind this bill and contact legislators to get them to move it. Frank Jack Fiamingo 23 hrs *** TIME TO PUT OUR SUPPORT BEHIND S1287 #nj2as #tcot CITIZENS PROTECTION ACT! STATEMENT This bill, the "Citizens' Protection Act," revises and simplifies the procedures for securing a permit to carry a handgun in the State of New Jersey.Under the provisions of the bill, an applicant for a permit to carry a handgun would be entitled to that permit so long as he can demonstrate competence with a firearm and is not statutorily disqualified. To demonstrate that competence, the applicant would be required to include, as part of his application for the permit, a copy indicating his successful completion of a firearms safety or training course or class offered by a law enforcement agency, an educational institution, the military, or the National Rifle Association. An applicant who holds a permit to carry is deemed competent and need not submit such evidence.Among the disqualifications set forth in the bill are the statutory disabilities which currently prohibit an individual from obtaining either a permit to purchase a handgun or a firearms purchaser identification card: a crime involving controlled substances; a condition involving chronic and habitual alcoholic or drug abuse; or some other physical or mental condition or disease which would make it unsafe for the individual to obtain a permit to carry a handgun.The bill also extends the term during which a permit to carry remains valid. At present, a permit to carry remains valid for two years; under this bill, a permit would be valid for five years.Finally, the bill deletes subsection b. of N.J.S.2C:39-2 which provided that with regard to any firearm permit or license, an individual was deemed to be in violation of the law "until he establishes the contrary." This approach is inconsistent with traditional American legal jurisprudence and, therefore, should be ended.In its current form, the law governing the issuance of permits to carry a handgun requires an applicant to demonstrate to the Superior Court a "justifiable need" in order to obtain a such permit. The court's interpretation of what constitutes a "justifiable need" makes it virtually impossible for citizens of New Jersey to obtain permits to carry.The "right-to-carry" can serve as a significant deterrent to crime. An analysis of the nation's 30 "right-to-carry" states has revealed a significant reduction in crime in those states compared with the national average. For example, aggravated assaults are 19.4 percent lower in "right-to-carry" states; robbery is 38.4 percent lower; homicide is 37.9 percent lower; and handgun homicide is 41.1 percent lower. In California, where the "right-to-carry" is permitted in certain counties, a comparison of the crime rates in those counties with those which do not permit their residents to carry reveals lower crime rates in the "right-to-carry" counties. Similarly, Florida has experienced lower crime rates since enacting its "right-to-carry" statute. The homicide rate in Florida has dropped 22 percent; the handgun homicide rate is down 29 percent. Finally, even convicted robbers have indicated that if they suspected that a potential victim might be armed they would probably look for someone else to rob. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/S1500/1287_I1.HTM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted September 26, 2014 NJ2AS is asking for folks to get behind this bill and contact legislators to get them to move it. Yes, this one seems better than A995. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted September 28, 2014 Just do it. They will likely do nothing about it but our voice will be heard. At least they'll start talking. Chris Christie has ignored every fax, email and phone call I sent about CCW until the other day out of the blue he replied to me. So nothing is impossible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR20 47 Posted September 30, 2014 Just do it. They will likely do nothing about it but our voice will be heard. At least they'll start talking. Chris Christie has ignored every fax, email and phone call I sent about CCW until the other day out of the blue he replied to me. So nothing is impossible. Ryan, If you don't mind can you give us an idea of what his reply stated? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 30, 2014 Probably the same letter I got, basically saying to contact my legislators in my district because they are the ones introducing bills etc.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR20 47 Posted September 30, 2014 Probably the same letter I got, basically saying to contact my legislators in my district because they are the ones introducing bills etc.. Thanks ogfarmer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted October 1, 2014 Yep. Same thing. Office of the Governor Office of Constituent Relations Post Office Box 001 Trenton, New Jersey 08625-0001 GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE ELECTRONIC RESPONSE September 17, 2014 Mr. Ryan A. Jairam ***************************** Sussex, New Jersey 07461-3051 Dear Mr. Jairam: Thank you for writing to me regarding the issuing of concealed carry gun permits. I appreciate hearing your views on this issue. Please know that changing a law would require legislation. As such, you may want to contact your legislative representatives and make them aware of your concerns. You may obtain legislators' contact information through the State Legislative website at: www.njleg.state.nj.us. If any bills on this matter pass both Houses of the Legislature, I will consider carefully all the comments received on this issue. Thank you again for writing. Best wishes. Sincerely, Chris Christie Governor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnawing 5 Posted October 1, 2014 "If any bills pass both houses of the legislature"....and what are the odds of that happening? Just another "Thanks for writing and remember when you cast your vote in 2016, someone who works for me acknowledged your existence!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted October 2, 2014 Isnt NJ CCW possible by simple stroke of pen by AG ? Did anyone run a campaign to ask Christi ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted October 2, 2014 Yep thats all it takes on the side of the AG. I cant believe that Christie doesnt realize how much of A feather in his cap that real CCW, For real citizens in this state would be for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted October 2, 2014 Yep thats all it takes on the side of the AG. I cant believe that Christie doesnt realize how much of A feather in his cap that real CCW, For real citizens in this state would be for him. You have to remember, CC was US Atty. for NJ. In essence, a LEO and based in Newark, of all places. I suspect that if he could vote his conscience (without consideration of political implications), he would most likely vote "anti" all the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted October 2, 2014 You have to remember, CC was US Atty. for NJ. In essence, a LEO and based in Newark, of all places. I suspect that if he could vote his conscience (without consideration of political implications), he would most likely vote "anti" all the way. Yep I agree! But how about this for his campaign slogan (If he decides to run) Give me your vote! I'll take Away your guns, Hell folks Guns are evil! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites