My New Rifle Build

[dman2112 6]

.308 Match Shillen 1:10 26"

 

HS precision stock

 

Polished and engine turned bolt

 

Glass bedded recoil lug area

 

EGW HD rail

 

Vortex Viper HST on the way

 

 

[Old School 611]

Sweet!  Savage 12 action?  Large or small shank?

[Recon Racoon 49]

That is a very nice build.

 

 

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[henrym 19]

Nice. Way to find a barrel nut that still has the slots instead of the new smooth one

[Iggyort 43]

 We need to talk.

 

 

I am in the process of builing a precision rifle based on Badger Ordnance components and a Remington 700 action and a H S Stock.

 

In addtion, I am planing to take Precision Rifle  with Black Hat in Mifflin, PA next year   and then start shooting the Precision Matches in  Peacemaker West Virginia.

 

 

P.S . - Very nice looking rifle.  Have you bought a scope for it yet?

[Shane45 805]

I love George and EGW, but I am not a fan of their rail.

[dman2112 6]

This was originally a savage 11 XP hunter. The receiver and all bottom metal is Duracoat tactical black. Scope will be here tomorrow.

[dman2112 6]

FWIW the EGW rail fit so nicely on the receiver I did not have to bed it

[dman2112 6]

Iggyyort. Are you reaming the chamber yourself or sending it out? Renting a pull through? I am thinking on going down the path to re barrel my .223 remmy

[dman2112 6]

Sorry old school...small shank

[dman2112 6]

Some more porn

 

 

 

 

[Old School 611]

Sorry old school...small shank

 

Mine is a small shank as well, doesn't make it bad.

I shoot a box stock rifle with exception of stock bedding.

I don't bed my rail unless it is a bad fit.

Precision rifles are getting popular.  This is a 243Win.

Notice the tape...LOL  Take a lot of notes.

[Shane45 805]

Fit it not the issue. The EGW rail has no lug. So the screws take all the recoil.

[dman2112 6]

Not if you coat with red loc tite. Also. It's a .308. I threw my Thompson around like a rag doll rolling around the red dirt hunting in Africa and never lost zero

[Old School 611]

Fit it not the issue. The EGW rail has no lug. So the screws take all the recoil.

 

None of my bases have recoil lugs. If it is a good mate( I've blued some ) Just lock tite the screws.

[Old School 611]

None of my bases have recoil lugs. If it is a good mate( I've blued some ) Just lock tite the screws.

 

Oh forgot...another good trick is if you have a base that's rocking...run an end mill down the center and let the base mate on two sides.

[Shane45 805]

lock tite or not its still relying on the screws. Seen plenty of sheared screws... A hunting zero and a precision rifle zero are usually not considered the same. But hey, if you boys are happy with lugless rails and they work for you, that's all that matters. Pop up some groups when you get a chance to ring her out!

[Old School 611]

Here you go Shane...I admit I need to practice

[Iggyort 43]

Iggyyort. Are you reaming the chamber yourself or sending it out? Renting a pull through? I am thinking on going down the path to re barrel my .223 remmy

I currently have a Remmy 700 Varmint in .223. The only two changes I have made is to put it in a HS Stock and put a Jard Varmit trigger on it. It shoots very well with a factory barrel and no work to the receiver.

[dman2112 6]

Shane. Your reading too many gun mags. I'm an MSEE. The sheer strength of a #6 grade 8 screw torqued at 22 in lbs is a proof load of 120,000 psi and a clamp load of about 822 lbs. which means you could use the rail screws as action screws on a 308 if you did not torque them beyond 22 in lbs

[dman2112 6]

Iggy. Nice! Too funny. I have the same rifle with a B&C stock and a Timney. I am thinking if rebarreling it in 300WSM for hunting larger game. Plus I have too much other stuff that shoots .223

[Shane45 805]

Sorry Dman, your degree doesn't trump my experience. But since your such an educated man, I wouldn't mind seeing the math on your shear strength because oddly, fastener companies don't seem to supply any shear strength data. Proof loads refer specifically to tensile strength which is not what we are talking about here. There are a lot of factors here. Do you really think your rifle is class 3 threads? So how many threads are actually engaging? How much force in resting on the very last thread which of course is a potential stress riser its self. Lugged rails are better. Receivers tapped for 8x32 are better. They are better because they reduce the likelihood of failure. This may not matter at all to you since if your rifle fails, you pack it up and go home. But on the agency rifles I have witnessed these failure on, prompting said upgrades, it surely matters to maximize operational up time.

[Old School 611]

Just as a point of interest...I never saw a lugged base on an M24 in any of the configurations.

 

Just saying...correct me if I'm wrong.

[BullzeyeNJ 104]

Good luck with that rifle. The Savage actions that I own always shoot well with my handloads. Full factory LRPV builds with a single shot receiver gets me 1/4 MOA all day in 223 Rem and 6mm BR. Believe me, I have paid alot more for alot less in accuracy.

[Shane45 805]

Just as a point of interest...I never saw a lugged base on an M24 in any of the configurations.

 

Just saying...correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe a couple of rails were used. I believe the badger mars and regular rail were used on more recent versions of the rifle. The regular badger rail for the M24 uses 8-40's and is lugged. But I am not an M24 history buff, I always like the M40 better

 

https://www.badgerordnance.com/products/scope-rail-m24-sws-right-hand-zero-cant-issue-item-8-40-screws-2/

 

Keep in mind, if I recall correctly, the original moa requirement for the M24 was < 1moa

 

How many people here on this board have gas guns that can do better than that!

[Old School 611]

I believe a couple of rails were used. I believe the badger mars and regular rail were used on more recent versions of the rifle. The regular badger rail for the M24 uses 8-40's and is lugged. But I am not an M24 history buff, I always like the M40 better

 

https://www.badgerordnance.com/products/scope-rail-m24-sws-right-hand-zero-cant-issue-item-8-40-screws-2/

 

Keep in mind, if I recall correctly, the original moa requirement for the M24 was < 1moa

 

How many people here on this board have gas guns that can do better than that!

 

1.2 + - MOA  Got your point! 

[dman2112 6]

Looks like Shane has a ton of experience over torquing and breaking shit

[Old School 611]

Looks like Shane has a ton of experience over torquing and breaking shit

 

I know for a fact that Shane is REAL GOOD at what he does.

 

Though, I don't agree in this case. I would certainly let him work on my stuff.

[Shane45 805]

dman, Im sorry if you feelings are hurt that Im not a fan of your $44 extruded rail. But you better check the comments as you are now making a claim against my professional abilities. It is interesting to me that instead of providing the math I asked for, you instead chose to attack me. It is a simple matter of difference of opinion and I even conceded that in your case, the risks may be acceptable(even though a broken screw on an African hunt would certainly make my point). For those that are interested, I use a snap on dial torque wrench which is checked against my Seekonk calibration tool. I have broken nothing of a customers or my own. I stand behind my work.

 

Old School, appreciated brother.

 

Shane

[Shane45 805]

And just for giggles, a group I shot at 100 with a 308 gas gun, 5 rounds. Factory ammo.