T Bill 649 Posted March 12, 2015 Loretta Weinberg. 80 year old from Teaneck feeding at the public trough since 1992. Probably still there since she lost 1.3 million in the Bernie Madoff deal. We need term limits now! Professional politicians breed contempt for the public at large. Just looking out for their own interests and agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted March 12, 2015 It's still important that they hear from people, or one day the Rs will vote for it too. What if you wake up in 22 months and you have a lot more Rs in office than you have ever seen? I'm not proposing a double majority, but perhaps a difference maker. It's been a national trend for a while now. I know it's hard, but keep the faith and keep fighting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,258 Posted March 13, 2015 What if you wake up in 22 months and you have a lot more Rs in office than you have ever seen? I'm not proposing a double majority, but perhaps a difference maker. It's been a national trend for a while now. I know it's hard, but keep the faith and keep fighting. it can happen......but it'd take a LOT of us to get a lot of people to wake up and get their asses out to the booths. that's the part that always seems to be the holdup. waking people up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonnevil79 0 Posted March 13, 2015 What if you wake up in 22 months and you have a lot more Rs in office than you have ever seen? I'm not proposing a double majority, but perhaps a difference maker. It's been a national trend for a while now. I know it's hard, but keep the faith and keep fighting. It's a funny thought to think that my district is broken up between Federal and State districts. They've voted Dem for almost 50 years I think for our Congressman, even after two scandals from Andrews, they still voted for him. Then they ran Norcross, probably the most corrupt, connected family in NJ, and still gave that scumbag about 60% of the vote. Somehow both of our reps on the state side are Republican though, even if I know that they district is broken down differently for those districts. I haven't been too involved with these issues in the past (typical blind ignorance until I started purchasing my own guns), but I can reach out to my reps from District 8 if there is a benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted March 13, 2015 it can happen......but it'd take a LOT of us to get a lot of people to wake up and get their asses out to the booths. that's the part that always seems to be the holdup. waking people up. Not impossible, but it would take a lot, considering that there are 700,000 more D's than R's in NJ. And the general populace either favors more gun control, believing the politicians that it will make them safer; or are apathetic and willing to go along with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,258 Posted March 13, 2015 Not impossible, but it would take a lot, considering that there are 700,000 more D's than R's in NJ. And the general populace either favors more gun control, believing the politicians that it will make them safer; or are apathetic and willing to go along with it. the way to beat their numbers, is to get our guys mobilized, while they don't do much more than the norm, since there's never really any resistance to them anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted March 15, 2015 It's a funny thought to think that my district is broken up between Federal and State districts. They've voted Dem for almost 50 years I think for our Congressman, even after two scandals from Andrews, they still voted for him. Then they ran Norcross, probably the most corrupt, connected family in NJ, and still gave that scumbag about 60% of the vote. Somehow both of our reps on the state side are Republican though, even if I know that they district is broken down differently for those districts. I haven't been too involved with these issues in the past (typical blind ignorance until I started purchasing my own guns), but I can reach out to my reps from District 8 if there is a benefit. That's the problem. Most Republicans and Independents have morals and principals. They won't generally vote for corrupt candidates whereas most Democrats have no principals and poor character and will vote for any low-life scumbag, no matter how corrupt as long as they have a D after their name and they promise them free stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted March 16, 2015 That's the problem. Most Republicans and Independents have morals and principals. They won't generally vote for corrupt candidates whereas most Democrats have no principals and poor character and will vote for any low-life scumbag, no matter how corrupt as long as they have a D after their name and they promise them free stuff. Jersey is in sad shape with few gun rights advocates in the legislature and few Republicans (comparatively). The good news is that both gun rights and Republican legislatures and governors are the trend nationwide at the state level. If you are working on getting or influencing pro-2A candidates on one hand, make sure the other hand is whoring itself to the Republican party. You're going to need Rs in there to get things done, regardless of what they believe or how slimy they are. That really is the key when the opportunity presents itself. Regarding Pro-2A dems: They are OK but they have to be the real deal. Most of them are full of crap and will turn gun banner at the drop of a hat. I've seen it too many times. But if you have a real one, that is fine. A bad Republican is still a vote sometimes, a turned Dem is always an enemy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted March 16, 2015 That's the problem. Most Republicans and Independents have morals and principals. They won't generally vote for corrupt candidates whereas most Democrats have no principals and poor character and will vote for any low-life scumbag, no matter how corrupt as long as they have a D after their name and they promise them free stuff. That's a ridiculous over generalization. Leaving aside that a statement like that just entrenches the us vs them mentality, the republican party machine sends just as much corrupt assholes up the political tree as anyone else? Do you want a list? Heck start with the current congressional "leadership" and try keeping a straight face while you tell us again how republicans won't vote for corrupt politicians. Explain to me Boehner, McConnell, McCain, even our dear governor. There is no doubt that the democrat party is the party of gun control, and as such we need to target their silliness, but lets not white wash the republicans as heroes. Everyone seems to forget the gun control crap that Regan and Bush Sr signed somehow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted March 17, 2015 That's a ridiculous over generalization. Leaving aside that a statement like that just entrenches the us vs them mentality, the republican party machine sends just as much corrupt assholes up the political tree as anyone else? Do you want a list? Heck start with the current congressional "leadership" and try keeping a straight face while you tell us again how republicans won't vote for corrupt politicians. Explain to me Boehner, McConnell, McCain, even our dear governor. There is no doubt that the democrat party is the party of gun control, and as such we need to target their silliness, but lets not white wash the republicans as heroes. Everyone seems to forget the gun control crap that Regan and Bush Sr signed somehow. Never said the republicans were heroes. I've been an independent for years because they all suck. I did say most, not all. If it wasn't for the low/no information voter who generally votes for anyone with a "d" after there name, the Democratic Party would've died a long time ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence Dogood 468 Posted March 17, 2015 Guess who's coming to town? http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/03/former_congresswoman_gabby_giffords_is_coming_to_n.html#incart_river Former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords ® and Americans for Responsible Solutions Executive Director Hayley Zachary attend a news conference about background checks for gun purchases at the Canon House Office Building on Capitol Hill March 4, 2015 in Washington, DC. (Getty Images) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted March 17, 2015 This looks like a busy week in New Jersey as "responsible" people (I.E. Everytown, MAIG, spiritual leaders & MDA) come out of the woodwork to talk about "gunsense." http://www.northjerseypublicpolicy.org/guns_safety_and_solutions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,131 Posted March 17, 2015 This looks like a busy week in New Jersey as "responsible" people (I.E. Everytown, MAIG, spiritual leaders & MDA) come out of the woodwork to talk about "gunsense." http://www.northjerseypublicpolicy.org/guns_safety_and_solutions http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/75532-action-alert-forum-on-gun-violence-in-hackensack-3192015/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites