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Fred,

This subject has been dealt with in several of our motions and letters to the court.

Among other points too lengthy to relate here,  we have proven by statistics  that every citizen in NJ is affected by the illegal NJ laws. Simply by living here.  We have testimony from Police Chiefs who are on record as saying, don't bother to try, you are not getting a carry permit.

 

And also, there are Supreme Court rulings that held anyone can file a civil rights lawsuit even if not personally affected.  

But remember, if you live in NJ, you know you are affected and the courts know it too.

 

Ask your lawyer friends to take some time and read our submittals.  I would like to know their responses.

They can all be seen here:  http://www.tpath.org/sappa-district-court-documents.html

 

Thanks,

Dwight

 

^The above is perfect Dwight - thank you for fighting for us!

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Thanks for the update, and for your continued persistence, skill, and resolve.

I am a little concerned that at this point and late date, the AG thought that a derogatory letter of name calling and sarcasm is an appropriate response. It could indicate that there is general consensus that this will go away.

On the other hand, the same response could indicate no real defense, which would be a good thing.

 

I sometimes am overwhelmed by the utter corruption displayed throughout this case, but then when I look around and see how NO government seems to hold ANY govt official responsible, even for blatant criminal activity, it's pretty obvious that the whole thing is completely out of control. The govt seems incapable of following the laws, much less holding itself responsible.

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Thanks for the update, and for your continued persistence, skill, and resolve.

I am a little concerned that at this point and late date, the AG thought that a derogatory letter of name calling and sarcasm is an appropriate response. It could indicate that there is general consensus that this will go away.

On the other hand, the same response could indicate no real defense, which would be a good thing.

 

I sometimes am overwhelmed by the utter corruption displayed throughout this case, but then when I look around and see how NO government seems to hold ANY govt official responsible, even for blatant criminal activity, it's pretty obvious that the whole thing is completely out of control. The govt seems incapable of following the laws, much less holding itself responsible.

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In addition to Dwight's response, I'd also be worried that applying could give the defense the option of granting him/Nick a permit to carry in an attempt to nullify that argument.  "Here's your permit.  Now what are you complaining about?"

I was thinking more along the lines of about 100 of us giving him a permit that was denied as ammo

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I was thinking more along the lines of about 100 of us giving him a permit that was denied as ammo

 

While that sounds good on paper, several others have tried to organize such a movement in the past, but no one follows through with it.  Part of the problem is that the requirements are so vague regarding the qualifications.  There is no printed document handed out by PDs that states what is required.  They just verbally tell you, "whatever is required for police officers" with no explanation, details, or forms to be filled out. 

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Hi Guys,

No news yet.

The court has missed the last date when they were supposed to make a ruling.

We have not heard from them since Nick sent a formal request to Judge Shipp for him to recuse himself based on the fact that he might be beholden to Second Amendment hating Obama who appointed him.

They may be having a little trouble responding to that.

 

The ruling by the FBI this week is very scary.  Clearly no one in power in this country cares a hoot about the rule of law if it impacts the elite.

If this keeps up I'm convinced that L&L time is less than a decade away.

Dwight

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Okay All,

We haven't posted much, but we have been busy.

Rather than explain it all here is the text of what we posted on the SAPPA pages today.

 

Thanks for all the interest and help many of you have given.

 

TPATH Posting for SAPPA July 20, 2016

==============

UPDATE AND COMMENTARY ON THE SAPPA GROUP FEDERAL LAWSUIT

By Dwight Kehoe

and

Nicholas Purpura

July 20, 2016 ~TPATH~ It has been just over a year since the Federal Civil Rights RICO action has been filed in the District Court in Trenton.  Nicholas Purpura v. Chris Christie et al has been successfully hidden from the public by the despicable media and even though the state of New Jersey has gone through several sets of professional legal teams combating the various filings, motions and legal requests, Governor Christie has never mentioned this law suit in public.  Why is that?

First of all it is no secret that the leftist media here in New Jersey despises Governor Christie with a passion. They have managed to turn the placement of several street cones near some stupid bridge into crimes worse than the My Lai Massacre.  So one would imagine that a Federal lawsuit filed against him and his legislative cohorts for civil rights violations would be dominating the print and TV media as relentlessly as that dastardly bridge closing was.  Well, not quite!  
And here’s why.  This lawsuit was filed in defense of our Second Amendment rights, one of many parts of the Constitution which liberals loathe even more than Christie. They despise and abhor anything to do with citizens having the ability to defend themselves. Anything that is that does not have to do with their own use of armed guards or personal weapons.  Therefore despite this apparent opportunity this legal action presents regarding the future demise of Christie, the media have buried this deeper than a Clinton pay for play extortion scandal.  

To be fair, Governor Christie has done a few things which we suggested he do in the text of the Federal Brief and in several letters which we sent directly to him. But for him to now, while speaking to national audiences in support of Donald Trump and even earlier during the primaries, claim he is a staunch supporter of Second Amendment rights is not just disingenuous, but blatantly false.

The legal action taken by Nicholas Purpura was designed, prepared and supported by facts and legal precedents.  It identifies many, many unconstitutional laws on the books here in New Jersey as well as the collusion and conspiracy involved in the passing and enforcing of them.   The lawsuit does not require or request any of the defendants be fined, removed from office or incarcerated.  It only demands that these firearm laws in New Jersey be reviewed and those determined to be unconstitutional, be removed. It would also prohibit the passage of future unconstitutional legislation.  It asks that any citizen who was caught up in one or more of these outrageous laws, be exonerated.  This does not include criminals who were convicted of these gun laws as a result of activities in other felonies.

If Christie is a supporter of the Bill of Rights, as he has claimed over and over again on the national stage, why then has he hired legal teams, using tax payer dollars, to fight off Purpura’s lawsuit?  Why has he not, as the Brief suggests, just simply admit the various violations and then proceed to fix them?   A move such as that would save New Jersey taxpayers money and move New Jersey closer to constitutional compliance.   Instead he has chosen to fight this action and fight it stealthily.   The only reasonable assessment or determination regarding his failure to acquiesce, could only be that he does not really support the Second Amendment.  Which of course, he does not and is why he was included in the lawsuit to begin with.

As we mentioned in the first paragraph this legal action has languished in the Federal District Court in Trenton now for over a year.  An Obama installed judge, Michael Shipp has been assigned to it from the very beginning.  We have shown and proven beyond any reasonable doubt that there has been illegal collusion between the Court Clerks and the state defendants.  We have filed motions with the court whereby the evidence included with them required that the defendants be ruled in default.  All of which have been ignored by Judge Shipp.

Several weeks ago, after almost a year of delays and missed ruling dates, the Judge finally made a decision and issued a ruling.  Not the one you might expect however.  He did not rule on the basis of law or the Constitution because he is quite aware of the many warnings issued to him by Mr. Purpura that the day will come when he will have to explain the legal basis for his rulings.  So that portion of this legal tug of war has been utterly and completely ignored.  He ruled that the lawsuit Nick filed was too complicated and that it confused the professional defense attorneys.  He issued a court order requiring that the entire Brief be reformed and then resubmitted to the court and the defendants.

This new filing, apparently needed to be easier for the defendant’s legal team and the Court to comprehend.  It wouldn’t be a bad thing either if some of those pesky and impossible to deny precedents were exorcised.   Mr. Purpura was given less than 30 days to comply or Judge Shipp would dismiss the case with Prejudice.  This move, he and his high priced colluders figured, would create an easy exit from this legal nightmare.  The case would be removed from the docket without the need to create a court record of rulings which violate the Constitution and the Federal Rules of the Court.

But hold on here, Mr. Purpura has repeatedly warned that the delays being employed by the court were not simply the standard snail paced legal system in action, but that the Judge and the defense attorneys were trying to find some way out without being held accountable later.   They tried claiming several very weak motions, all of which Mr. Purpura immediately cut off at the knees.  Having failed at those endeavors they appear to have buckled down and come up with this refile thing. So after a year, this is the best they could come up with? Apparently so.  Too bad for them that Mr. Purpura anticipated their move before they even made it and had a response ready.

Within a few days, the court and the defendants had a Motion to Rescind and Vacate the order to resubmit.  This new Motion was in their hands before they had finished back slapping each other for the clever thing they had just done.  It is not known by us just what reaction they had to this Motion but we are quite sure they had to wonder how it was prepared and submitted so quickly.  Then, as weeks went by, while they dug deeper into the bowels of legal precedent they came up with an order to deny the Rescind and Vacate Motion and the order was accompanied by the previous threat to close the case with Prejudice.

Having knowledge of the corruption and tyrannical modes and methods of the court systems in this country, Purpura had prepared too, for that move.  Within hours of the judge’s ruling, Nick filed with the District Court a Notice of Appeal which will then, by law, be passed onto the Circuit Court for processing.  This move on the part of Mr. Purpura, while being supported by law, is not something that the Court anticipated that a non-attorney might have knowledge of.  No doubt the good judge is not a happy camper right about now. Once again he has found himself in the position of having to go on record, now with the upper court, as to what legal basis he employed to close this case.  It is doubtful Judge Shipp is enjoying these beautiful summer days of July as the temperature simmering on the hot streets of Trenton are no match for mercury rising under his robed shirt collar.

 The filing of the Appeals Notice, which required about $500.00 in cost, is the first step required in the Appeals process.  As a result of this filing the Circuit Court is required to issue a Circuit Court Docket Number and should do so within two weeks.  That number will be applied to the actual Appeals Motion which will filed very shortly after the case is issued a docket number.

When this process has begun, along with several other things, the defendants will have to explain the basis from which Judge Shipp decided that Mr. Purpura’s original Brief was too complicated and confusing, to the extent that it had to be revised and resubmitted.  It will be interesting to see if the upper court is likewise confused.

The Court documents discussed in this article,   can be found on the District Court Document page in the SAPPA section of TPATH.  

 

COURT DENIES RECALL AND VACATE

 

NOTICE OF APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT

 

VIEW ALL DISTRICT COURT DOCUMENTS FROM THE FIRST FILING OF THE BRIEF TO THIS NOTICE OF APPEAL

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Thanks for the updates Dwight. Its much appreciated. We applaud your group's tenacity... As always, keep us abreast...

Cheers!

 

 

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Thanks for the update!  However, as a subscriber to this thread, I receive the updates via email.  In a text format email, your links are loaded with subliminal messages.  What is that all about?  Most of them are very weird and/or have no relevance to our cause.  I isolated all of them (each segregated between hyperlinks).  Make sure to read through the entire list and you'll see what I mean.  If anyone wants to see the original email, for proof that I'm not making this up, PM me with your address and I can forward it to you.

 

 

Of Wolves

 YOU READY

 CONTACTS HIS SENATOR

 THE GRACE OF GOD

 ARTICLES

 Dictatorial Threats

 and INFORMATION

 DOWNLOADS

 ISLAM - NOT HERE

 Up Page

 THE BRIDGE

 PDF Files

 PERFIDY

 CARUBA-HUCKABEE

 MENU

 vs REPUBLICANISM

 VOTES BOEHNER

 DOCUMENTS

 SAPPA DOCUMENTS

 NAME ON THE MAP

 PURVEYOR OF THE 7 DETESTABLE SINS

 MORE DEAD COPS

 AGENT TO ERIC HOLDER

 ENDANGERMENT

 MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD

 TO GOV DELETE PHRASE

 GONE WILD

 OF WHAT?

 MAYHEM AND MONSTERS

 RIGHTS & WRONGS

 AT THE TABLE

 TO REP SMITH NCRA

 & FUTURE- TIME TO FACE THEM BOTH

 DIVIDE DESTROY

 OBAMA'S HIGH HORSE

 - YOU WILL COMPLY

 OF BLOOMBERG & SAPPA ANNOUNCEMENT

 WILL IT TAKE?

 EFFORT VS RADICAL ISLAM

 STINKING LEFTIST IDEOLOGY

 VANGUARD

 AND SOUL OF CONSTITUTION

 ARE NOT PATRIOTS

 OBVIOUS

 KENYAN BORN ILLINOIS SON

 GREAT ENABLER

 IS TICKING

 CONSTITUTION-PROTECTS & PORTENDS

 OF CHURCH AND STATE

 GRAVE FOR THE GRAVES ACT

 ANGER

 REGISTERED MAIL

 PRIVILEGE CONFERENCE

 HISTORY - DREAD THE FUTURE

 APOSTASY

 BRIDGE TO THE RIGHT SIDE

 GETS A LETTER

 MARCH MEETING DOUMENTS

 ABOUT DEFENDING CIVIL RIGHTS

 POSITIONS

 & FREEDOM-UNDER FIRE

 PARDON

 LEGACY OF PROPAGANDA

 INEXPLICABLE PERILOUS

 LAMBS  

 PAUPERISM PERFECTED

 FROM TPATH

 Part III

 POLICE- ARMED FOR YOUR PROTECTION?

 TO EXTINCTION

 BIRTHRIGHT ABANDONED

 PART IV

 FOR THE BRIEF

 2015 BATTLE IN TRENTON

 PRESS RELEASE

 DONATE PAGE

 THANKYOU

 PARTS V & VI

 OF TOMORROW

 PART VII

 SERIES

 THEY REALLY THAT STUPID?

 WITHOUT BORDERS

 GROUP SUPPORT PAGE

 NEWS AND REPORTS

 DONALD - MESSIAH?

 EVIL

 EMPORER

 LA FIORINA

 LIBERAL MIND - PART I

 FOR CONGRESS

 AND APATHY

 TO JUDGE SHIPP

 FULL CIRCLE

 ANYONE CARE?

 = SOCIALISM

 PARENTAL RIGHTS ACT

 NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK

 TO SERFDOM

 OBAMA LIE?

 IN AMERICA

BETRAYED

 FLAG

 "TRUMPS"

 FOR PATRIOTS

 CONUNDRUM

 INVENTION

 AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD

 BRIEF-WHAT IS IT?

 PUPPET MASTER

 LIBERAL MIND - PART II

 V. PATRIOTS

 QUESTION OF PATRIOTISM

 JUSTICE- THE DEMISE OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH

 FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT- IGNORED AND GORED

 SIGNUP CONFIRMATION

 DISTRICT COURT DOCUMENTS

 AND COLLUSION

 AWAY

 OF THE C-SPAN

 AMERICA

 AND BECK

 INDICATORS

 VIDEO LINKS

 WE WERE SLEEPING

 IS ON

 MELTDOWN

 HYPOCRICY

 PASS

PERISHING NATION

 AND GUN CONTROL

 - PROPHECY-VACUUMS

 MISTEPS

 VERY "SYRIOUS" MATTER

 MRS. CLINTON

 VICTIMIZATION OF AMERICA

 MADE AMERICA GREAT?

 SOS

 OUR CHILDREN

 LICENSES FOR ILLEGALS

 VIEW

 OR DEMONIC

 BYE WIND

 RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT

 A NEW TURN

 IT WAS YOU

MILITIA THE PEOPLE THE COLON

 MORAL COMPASS

 MALIGNANCY OF MODERISM

 PONTIFICATES

 SENSE

 DOLLS

 PROGRESSIVE RESPONSE

WARMING HOAX-DEBUNKED

AMERICA NO LONGER WORKS

 PRETENDERS

 IN YOUR WALLET

 WHAT THEY UNDERSTOOD

 OF SPACE AND TIME

 CONSTITUTION?

 PERILS OF REPETITION

 TO CIRCUMVENTION

 ART OF WAR

NOT ISLAMISTS

 ISLAM

 CANDIDATES

 ALLIANCES

 LIES AND LIARS

MEDIA HATE CHRISTIE

SCAPEGOATS

 

 THREE-PRONGED ATTACK

 ESTABLISHMENT IS SHOWING

 SANDERS' SYNDROME

 TAKES A STAND

 ON TRACK?

 AND NARAL

 ANY OTHER NAME

RISING

CHALLENGE HAS BEEN ACCPETED

 A ROCK-RIBBED CONSERVATIVE SUPPORTS TRUMP

 ARE THEY AFRAID OF?

 LETTER TO MY PATRIOT FAMILY AND FREINDS

UNTIL

 HEROES

THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO YOU?

OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT

 MORE DEBATES

 PATRIOTS

 REVOLUTIONS

READY FOR REALITY

 REPUBLICAN PARTY

 MADE AMERICA GREAT?

 POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE

 GIFT

 SON OF OSAMA BIN LADEN

 Psychological or Political:

 RULING

 TROUBLE

 TO TPATH READERS AND CONTRIBUTORS

 WHO STOLE AMERICA

 DEFINED

 TO HELL

 CRONY RINOs

COUP

 KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT

 LARSEN FOR CONGRESS

WONDER WHY WE ARE ANGRY

TRUTH KEEPS COMING BACK

 PGA COLLABORATORS

- IS IT A DIRTY WORD?

 THE POST WON'T POST

RADICAL ISLAMIST - RADICAL ISLAM

 IS TIME TO RECONSIDER

 OF A SUDDEN

THE INSTITUTION

 OF DESTRUCTION

HISTORY LESSON

 HIGH COUNCIL

WOMAN JEZEBEL

DILUTING AMERICA

 SUCCESS OF FAILURE

POLICEMAN

 CHAOS

SUCCESS OF FAILURE-WHAT YOU NEED TO DO-PART II

SHIPP GETS A SURPRISE

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Those "subliminal" messages?  

When I posted the article on TPATH, the whole page went into the buffer without me knowing it.

That list is merely the names of articles we posted on TPATH this year.

After I posted the thread here, I realized that that list pasted.  I went right in and edited it out.

The only reason I can think of that you saw this list you were probably there before I got it edited out.

Sorry for the confusion but know that this is only a list of our articles, not some hacking conspiracy. LOL

Dwight

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Say what you will about SAPPA's quixotic quest using quintessentially questionable and highly unintelligible tactics. At least they don't promise to put clothes on our families' backs like some other group that will go unnamed. The good news is as you stand under the lawn sprinklers this summer at least your shirt won't get chlorine stains.

 

OTOH we'll miss this:

 

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Only donated $50, so only got half a shirt.

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Say what you will about SAPPA's quixotic quest using quintessentially questionable and highly unintelligible tactics. At least they don't promise to put clothes on our families' backs like some other group that will go unnamed. The good news is as you stand under the lawn sprinklers this summer at least your shirt won't get chlorine stains.

 

OTOH we'll miss this:

 

2s60isj.jpg

 

Only donated $50, so only got half a shirt.

If she was only going to get half a shirt, shoulda been the other half. But thanks, she still looks good. 

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Say what you will about SAPPA's quixotic quest using quintessentially questionable and highly unintelligible tactics. At least they don't promise to put clothes on our families' backs like some other group that will go unnamed. The good news is as you stand under the lawn sprinklers this summer at least your shirt won't get chlorine stains.

 

OTOH we'll miss this:

 

2s60isj.jpg

 

Only donated $50, so only got half a shirt.

Plus one for use of alliteration.....and for displaying gratuitous nipple pokerey.

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Hey All,

Thought I would drop you a link to our latest update rather than try and post it all here.

You might be surprised at this latest developments.

Just so you all know, with Nick's leadership the SAPPA Group is hanging in and keeping the pressure on.

We will not end our battle until the last avenue has been exhausted.  If the timing is right, we may just win this thing. 

 

If Trump wins and we get a conservative Supreme Court Justice it should line up nicely with the time frame when  we will be filing there.

A little info some of you may know but some may not.  If an appeals case goes to the Supreme Court and there is a tie there, the ruling then goes back to the lower court's decision and become law.  That ladies and gentlemen, we do not want.

 

Here is a link to the Information update posted on the SAPPA Pages of the TPATH website.

http://www.tpath.org/shakeup-in-the-federal-court.html

 

Don't forget we have all the documents generated by SAPPA, the Courts and the defense attorneys on the web site.  You can read or download them HERE.

 

​Thanks everyone for your continued support during this long struggle.  Nick and Dwight and the rest of the SAPPA Group members really do appreciate it.

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...The Chief Judge has just issued an order to remove Judge Shipp from this case.  He will be immediately replaced by Judge Brian R. Martinotti.

 

... Judge Martinotti has a superb record and was approved by the United States Republican Controlled Senate, overwhelmingly with 95 yea votes. ...

 

Very interesting development SAPPA team, and I hope it is both non-coincidental and advantageous to your case.  Thank you for the update!

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That is a great update. I liked in particular how Nick stated he is not done with the so called judge.

I am cautiously optimistic that the change is a good sign of things to come. So long as a certain criminal is not successful in her bid for POTUS. If that happens I fear we're all in for dark times.

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      Editor’s note: We’re not going to link to the article because they are hiding most of the content behind a paywall and we won’t drive thousands of readers to their website.
       
      One more chance for gun owners
       
      Posted: Monday, February 24, 2014 3:35 pm | Updated: 3:36 pm, Mon Feb 24, 2014.
       
      Manchester, CT (Journal Inquirer) – When state officials decided to accept some gun registrations and magazine declarations that arrived after a Jan. 4 deadline, they also had to deal with those applications that didn’t make the cut.
       
      The state now holds signed and notarized letters saying those late applicants own rifles and magazines illegally.
       
      But rather than turn that information over to prosecutors, state officials are giving the gun owners a chance to get rid of the weapons and magazines.
       
      This entry was posted on February 24, 2014 at 5:55 pm and is filed under Blog. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.
       
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      100 letters don't seem like much, but it might be their strategy to tackle a little at a time when it comes to the overall 100k non-compliant gun owners. I'm giving strong consideration to the idea of making future purchases outside state lines.
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