"FAL" parts kit and build.

[pbkid6974 1]

so i picked up a parts kit from the Sarco booth at the Oaks show yesterday. i always wanted a FAL but since they are illegal in NJ i'll have to settle for a SG58 . i haven't really researched into them too much, so any help/info will be greatly appreciated. does anyone know if there is a way to tell where this kit came from? They told me it was a "navy pattern" metric kit... i just wanted it for the polymer furniture over the heavy ass wood and it was the only one that had a barrel. its covered in cosmoline and needs a good cleaning but ill wait until i buy the receiver to do that. other than that it is in great shape and came with a stainless barrel. i'm fairly certain all i need to buy to complete is a few tools, vise, a receiver, some mags, and a muzzle device. i can add pics if there is any interest.

 

[fatty 241]

How much did the kit cost? If you don't mind me asking..

 

Any benefit to building over buying a compliant PTR?

[pbkid6974 1]

FAL =/= PTR. completely different setups, PTR is a civilian G3/HK91 clone. i want to build because it gives me and excuse to buy tools and because i like tinkering around with stuff. it was $500 OTD

[fatty 241]

good luck with the build pbkid.  post some pictures if you can.  sounds like a fun project for sure

[junkmanted 54]

Coonan makes a nice receiver . its not a simple build , timing the barrel and figuring out what locking shoulder takes some doing.

 

I used a large vice with some aluminum plates to protect the receiver and locked the barrel with a large wrench. and on the locking shoulder I used the

smooth end of drill bits, found one that works and used a dial caliper. When I ordered my shoulder ,I ordered a larger one and filed it to fit. Some say dont do that and some say its OK. On timing the barrel you may need to remove some materiel from the barrel, a lathe or drill press works for that with a file , but go slow. Lube the treads on the barrel, till you have it where you want then clean off the lube, I used lock tite just because .

 

good luck and start reading on the net.

 

When its done you will love it, and get the head space gauges and check it now and then. Just a note 308 and 7.62x51 are not the same

[pbkid6974 1]

Coonan makes a nice receiver . its not a simple build , timing the barrel and figuring out what locking shoulder takes some doing.

 

I used a large vice with some aluminum plates to protect the receiver and locked the barrel with a large wrench. and on the locking shoulder I used the

smooth end of drill bits, found one that works and used a dial caliper. When I ordered my shoulder ,I ordered a larger one and filed it to fit. Some say dont do that and some say its OK. On timing the barrel you may need to remove some materiel from the barrel, a lathe or drill press works for that with a file , but go slow. Lube the treads on the barrel, till you have it where you want then clean off the lube, I used lock tite just because .

 

good luck and start reading on the net.

 

When its done you will love it, and get the head space gauges and check it now and then. Just a note 308 and 7.62x51 are not the same

i should head space for .308 then i can shoot either one correct? I think I'm going to do with the dsa receiver. I need to get a vise or borrow one.

[petros600 12]

listen to Ted and get a Coonan receiver. Most likely you bought an Argentine FAL kit. 

Spent some time on the FAL Forums, plenty info there!!

Also order the Gunplumber's Guide to Gunsmithing. FN FAL & L1A1 DVD & Workbook.$65 (+$10 S/H) from here: http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/store/ars-misc/page-ars-misc.shtml

 

That would be the best $75 you will ever spent

[junkmanted 54]

308 is shorter then 51. I only shoot 51 in my milsurp guns, some of the 308 hunting ammo may be to powerful .

and yes get that book petros is talking about.

[pbkid6974 1]

Did i do ok with the price i got it for?

[RecessedFilter 222]

I have a nice Israeli kit but I still need a few parts for it. I was planning on sending it out to Tim over at Gewehr Works but maybe we can have a build party instead?!

[pbkid6974 1]

If you have a vise I'm in drez. I just need a reciever and muzzle device

[Njbanshee 9]

Sounds cool, I would like to build one

[junkmanted 54]

if anyone is looking for a good size vice I have a 2nd I would trade for some ammo

[pbkid6974 1]

if anyone is looking for a good size vice I have a 2nd I would trade for some ammo

what kind of ammo and how much?

[junkmanted 54]

i will post a picture . Make a offer that you feel is fare,

 

223 , 7.62x54, 51 , 9mm , 762x39, 32,44,

 

 

[pbkid6974 1]

i will post a picture . Make a offer that you feel is fare,

 

223 , 7.62x54, 51 , 9mm , 762x39, 32,44,

 

 

i have no idea what something like that would go for...

[junkmanted 54]

this looks similar . so hows 75 in ammo

 

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200612360_200612360?cm_ven=google_PPC&cm_cat=Dynamic+Search+Ads+Test&cm_pla=generic&cm_ite=_intitle:Vises&mkwid=sqCP4mdWN&pcrid=26187849431&mt=b&storeId=6970&langId=-1&type=search&gclid=CIe7z93X1MQCFUkR7AodaW4A5w

[pbkid6974 1]

$75 worth? 300 rnds of tula 223 work?

[junkmanted 54]

Sure I will pm you

[pbkid6974 1]

does anyone know is there are 20/15 metric mags available? or will i have to buy some out of state and convert them before bringing them home? i found http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magblock-kits/fn-fal/fal-10-20-block.html, so ill just cut them in half and epoxy into the spring so they cant be converted back

[junkmanted 54]

there is 10 rounders , i see them for sale now and then . convert your own I weld a rod to the follower then tack the floor plate

[fatty 241]

any updates on your build pbkid?

[dapperdan 0]

Just got one of these myself. Pretty excited. I'll post pics eventually

[pbkid6974 1]

digging up this thread with some good news, SHES 99% DONE!!! just waiting one the locking shoulder. ran into some barrel timing issues but a little delicate work with a file made quick work of that. and got the barrel to time up perfectly at 10 o'clock. had another issue with the cocking rod, the pin hole that holds in the stop lug was too small so i had to drill it out. those were the only two issues i ran into. here are some pics

 

 

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358]

Very nice brah

[RecessedFilter 222]

Awesome job. Must feel good!

[pbkid6974 1]

You know it. You ever build that izzy kit drez?

[pbkid6974 1]

You know it. You ever build that izzy kit drez?

[RecessedFilter 222]

Nah. It sat around for a while and missed a forum group buy on receivers so it sat some more and I ended up selling it for a lot more than I paid. Couldn't complain.

[pbkid6974 1]

Damn you. I would a bought it from you