HP Ammo for Home Defense

[Princetonian58 53]

Took a NRA pistol course and there was debate whether hollow point ammo is legal to use in an otherwise lawful exercise of self defense in ones home. Some maintain that while its legal to possess HP ammo in one's home, it's unlawful to use it. What's the consensus here?

[67gtonut 845]

No grey area....

 

It is legal to use in a HD situation....

 

 

Just dont leave it in your car.....  LOL.... as silly as that sounds....  OK to transport it to and from the range... 

[Pizza Bob 1,483]

 

100% legal. I wish those that instruct would only do so on topics on which they are knowledgeable. Obviously your instructors are not conversant with NJ firearms law which calls into question anything else upon which they expounded.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[GRIZ 3,306]

No grey area, if you are where you can possess it you can use it.

 

People don't understand most laws tell you what you cannot do. You won't find a law in NJ that says you can or cannot use hollowpoints for defense.

[94dak 0]

just get some guard dog from federal and don't use hollow points. then there is no question

[kirk2022 41]

Read the title of post and figured you were going to say you were at Bass Pro Shop and they told you the HPs and powder were illegal in NJ.

 

There was A post on the Smith & Wesson forums from A employee.  Stating that BP says they are Illegal.

 

As posted above.  HPs are legal in your home and for transport to and from the range for practice.

Just please dont leave even A rd of 22LR HP accidentally in your car or truck.

[djg0770 480]

Took a NRA pistol course and there was debate whether hollow point ammo is legal to use in an otherwise lawful exercise of self defense in ones home. Some maintain that while its legal to possess HP ammo in one's home, it's unlawful to use it. What's the consensus here?

 

Please tell us where you took this course so we know to avoid this fountain of mis-information.

[Darrenf 422]

I was told the same thing at the First Steps class at the Atlantic County Pistol training facility. I and another student had to correct the instructor.

[GRIZ 3,306]

If it gets to what type of bullet you used to shoot an intruder in your home you are already in trobule. Be knowledgeable not familiar with use of force under 2C. Read ALL of the parts of the statute.

 

Many say don't talk to police when they arrive. Remember, you are going to have to make a statement (hopefully before a trial) that you were in fear your life and the lives of your family if you are claiming self defense. If you don't know what to say say nothing. You may stay longer in the process but it will help you. Remember there have been several justifiable shootings in NJ recently and the citizens defending themselves were not led out in chains.

[PD2K 115]

Well that's unfortunate the instructor was unfamiliar with NJ law. Hollow points are legal to own and use in your home and at the range.

[mipafox 438]

In before several people that have been members here for 5 years say hollowpoints are legal unless you use them in a crime.

[Princetonian58 53]

Well that's unfortunate the instructor was unfamiliar with NJ law. Hollow points are legal to own and use in your home and at the range.

Yes, that is also my understanding.  I examined the statute and the exception.  It does not expressly speak of use of HP at home but does not declare it illegal either.  I've found no case holding that the use of HP ammo in an otherwise lawful self defense situation in the home is illegal.

[Michael2013 56]

In before several people that have been members here for 5 years say hollowpoints are legal unless you use them in a crime.

In fact, this is exactly what I've heard from my instructor.

[glockamole 0]

I'm going with legal to use. If you happen to magically get a nj carry permit then you cannot carry with HP. So legal to purchase, own in your home, shoot at the range or home. Illegal to possess them outside your home unless in exempt locations like the range. Oh and if you move to a new home don't transport them to the new home along with everything else you own. That too would be against the law...

[Rob0115 1,105]

A lot of critical defense ammo is filling the HP cavity with polymer. This removes the debate around hollow points.

[mipafox 438]

A lot of critical defense ammo is filling the HP cavity with polymer. This removes the debate around hollow points.

I doubt it.

[JohnnyB 4,148]

I'm going with legal to use. If you happen to magically get a nj carry permit then you cannot carry with HP. So legal to purchase, own in your home, shoot at the range or home. Illegal to possess them outside your home unless in exempt locations like the range. Oh and if you move to a new home don't transport them to the new home along with everything else you own. That too would be against the law...

Your home is an exempted location. How is it illegal to transport your HP ammo from your home to your new home??? I don't get it???

[mipafox 438]

Your home is an exempted location. How is it illegal to transport your HP ammo from your home to your new home??? I don't get it???

You are not legal to possess HPs while moving from one home to another. It's just the law.

[glockamole 0]

From home to home was never put in as an exemption like store to home or home to range was... Go NJ!!!

[InFamous 306]

So, old home to a pit stop at the range, then range to new home. Problem solved?

[mipafox 438]

So, old home to a pit stop at the range, then range to new home. Problem solved?

It's still Jersey so I would say the problem is not solved.

[PK90 3,547]

Not looking for that pic again, so I'll say it...."NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN"

[mipafox 438]

PK is phoning it in at this point

[glockamole 0]

Can I mail them across town to my new home a mile away?

[owadj01 0]

I was told the same thing at the First Steps class at the Atlantic County Pistol training facility. I and another student had to correct the instructor.

When did you take your class and who was your instructor(s)? I taken first steps and Basic pistol at ACFTF in the past 2 months and it was clear they understood HP where not illegal (under the approved conditions set forther under the laws, etc.) And that it is a huge misconception people think HP is illegal in NJ.

[Darrenf 422]

It was within the last month. No need to name names. Their mistake was explained and corrected. I would hope they won't make it again. And actually it was during the basic rifle class. I had to take both classes in order to be able to shoot my pistols and long guns there.

[PD2K 115]

If it gets to what type of bullet you used to shoot an intruder in your home you are already in trobule. Be knowledgeable not familiar with use of force under 2C. Read ALL of the parts of the statute.

 

Many say don't talk to police when they arrive. Remember, you are going to have to make a statement (hopefully before a trial) that you were in fear your life and the lives of your family if you are claiming self defense. If you don't know what to say say nothing. You may stay longer in the process but it will help you. Remember there have been several justifiable shootings in NJ recently and the citizens defending themselves were not led out in chains.

 

Good Massad Ayoob video on what to do in a shooting aftermath: