mark_anthony_78 0 Posted May 24, 2015 ??? Both Dodge and Ford make a work van. What requirement of them is it that you need that they don't make? Chevy makes vans... Ford and Dodge make some tiny and/or ass-ugly euro style high roof abominations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 24, 2015 Chevy makes vans... Ford and Dodge make some tiny and/or ass-ugly euro style high roof abominations.Yep pretty much, over priced ugly ass high roof abominations lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted May 24, 2015 Yep pretty much, over priced ugly ass high roof abominations lol. Ah, it's a styling issue. You like vehicles made from tooling built in the 70s so you can disappear amongst the sea of white vans that account for every 3rd vehicle on the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark_anthony_78 0 Posted May 24, 2015 Maybe he doesn't want to unload a ladder from an 8 foot tall roof... Heck, I've met DeerSlayer, he may need that tiny transit van Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 24, 2015 Maybe he doesn't want to unload a ladder from an 8 foot tall roof... Heck, I've met DeerSlayer, he may need that tiny transit van No doubt I'm a Hobbit bro. I live in the Shire... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 24, 2015 Ah, it's a styling issue. You like vehicles made from tooling built in the 70s so you can disappear amongst the sea of white vans that account for every 3rd vehicle on the road. No its an issue of it won't fit in my customers driveways without ripping their cable wire off their house. Otherwise their great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted May 25, 2015 The new Ford Transits are available in three different roof heights, the lowest of which is Econoline height FWIW. Transit=Econoline, Transit Connect=the little van thing. They're ugly, but have significantly less blindspots. Also, if you have an inner Clint Eastwood like me, they aren't Italian imports. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted May 25, 2015 Is this still a Wrangler topic? Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 26, 2015 The new Ford Transits are available in three different roof heights, the lowest of which is Econoline height FWIW. Transit=Econoline, Transit Connect=the little van thing. They're ugly, but have significantly less blindspots. Also, if you have an inner Clint Eastwood like me, they aren't Italian imports. The little van can't hold 5,000 lbs of tools and materials. I need a one ton minimum. I can break an e250 in half as soon as I load it up. Black pipe fittings aren't light. I'm not getting a front wheel drive mini van with a tall roof, just ain't gonna happen. The dodge is FWD and that's even worse to me than the Ford monstrosity they're selling now. I'll just buy a Chevy 3500 normal van. If I'm going to get a high roof van it may as well just be a box truck at that point. Sorry for taking the thread off track, here's some Jeep Porn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted May 26, 2015 ^ Id bet that the only off road that thing has seen is grass at a car show after they pulled it off a trailer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 26, 2015 ^ Id bet that the only off road that thing has seen is grass at a car show after they pulled it off a trailerI actually watched them load and unload it from my balcony of my timeshare in OC Maryland. It never touched grass from the trailer to inside the convention center. Concrete all the way lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted May 27, 2015 how about a Jeep Liberty? can be had as v6 4wd stick (5spd or 6spd depending on the year). A LOT more comfortable than an Wrangler. example: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5042931601.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 27, 2015 how about a Jeep Liberty? can be had as v6 4wd stick (5spd or 6spd depending on the year). A LOT more comfortable than an Wrangler.My wife's KK drives like a tank, the suspension is not smooth in that liberty at all. Besides everyone knows that's a girls car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted May 27, 2015 My wife's KK drives like a tank, the suspension is not smooth in that liberty at all. Besides everyone knows that's a girls car 3 worlds.... Jeepin By Al (now JBA Offroad) OME springs and dampers made a WORLD of difference in my jeep. also, I don't consider KK's to be Liberty's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted May 27, 2015 3 worlds.... Jeepin By Al (now JBA Offroad) OME springs and dampers made a WORLD of difference in my jeep. also, I don't consider KK's to be Liberty's Lol yeah your right the KJ is more manly Her KK is going back in a few months at the end of the lease. There's a guy in my club that did a solid front axle swap on his KJ, 6"of lift on 35 KM2's, with front and rear lockers. He goes anywhere my rig can, they're pretty capable with the right progressive spring set up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted May 28, 2015 I don't want to be that guy, but... ..Wranglers are pushing it for me. I'll leave it at that to be polite Plus, I do NOT want anything lifted. I don't want another project, I already have two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites