I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 27, 2015 OK so I haven't even heard any talk of trying this in NJ. 5.56 ar barreled pistol sure, but short barrels is what the 300 aac was made for. So i put together a parts list to see how close to sub 50oz's as i could. It's pretty close and there are 3 things that come to mind where i think i could find lesser weight items. The upper receiver, the buffer tube kit, and the barrel. I know there are some lighter weight options available but I am trying to spend as little as possible on this to get it done. I also have a legal question about this build. Suppose i do the build am i allowed to put an optic like a red dot on this as long as the assembled pistol is less than 50oz without it? I appreciate any and all input. My ultimate goal is to make this build happen so I can share the parts list with others to be able to enjoy as well. Update: I jumped in head first and started ordering parts today (7/1). Here is where I'm at now on paper: LW Blackout Pistol Build Anderson Sport upper Aim Surplus 39.99 6.8oz Tegra Lower Tegra Arms 79.99 3.7oz Lower Parts Kit New Frontier 42.79 4.4oz Purchased V7 LW gasblock Vertex ops 67.90 0.8oz Noveske Gas Tube Midway Usa 11.99 0.6oz Charging Handle PSA 24.99 1.3oz Custom 6" Deadshot barrel Deadshot barrels 90.00 13.0oz (est) Purchased LW bolt carrier Rubbercity 179.00 6.8oz AO bolt Midway Usa 45.99 1.6oz Cam Pin and Retaining pin Midway Usa 5.00 0.4oz Spikes Pistol Buffer Tube Spikes 35.00 5.0oz Taccom LW buffer Tacticallink 21.95 1.2oz V7 ti castle nut&endplate V Seven 59.00 0.5oz DPMS buffer spring Midway Usa 3.49 2.1oz Titanium barrel nut Vertex ops 64.99 0.8oz TOTAL: 47.8oz MISC: Pistol permit when buying lower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted June 27, 2015 Is the 9oz for the RCA for the carrier only or for the entire BCG? Weighing in at just over 8.9 ounces the RCA competition carrier makes a noticable difference in felt recoil. JP makes an aluminum carrier that weighs 3.76oz but it's pretty expensive. I'd also consider using an adjustable gas block and running as light of a buffer as possible. You might pick up an ounce there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted June 27, 2015 Is the buffer and spring in the KAK kit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 27, 2015 9oz is for the whole bcg. Sorry about the confusion with the kak buffer tube kit. that weight listed is with the Taccom lightweight carbine buffer replaicing the standard one from the kit. I forgot to list it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted June 27, 2015 Why not cut the threads and re-crown the bbl? I know it's an extra cost but that could be the last few ounces you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 28, 2015 I considered that Jon and ultimately i thought i would end up going with just the barrel with the threads ground down to save that little bit of weight. I think if I'm going to take $100 barrel and put a $100 of labor into it to do that I might as well try to find someone to make a custom lightweight 300 aac barrel. right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 28, 2015 honestly it looks like to me if this thing is going to get off the ground i'll need to get a barrel that is sub 14 ounces Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted June 28, 2015 Are you positive 4 ounces is correct for the lower parts kit? Polymer with the grip? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 28, 2015 PK I am not sure because i don't have the lpk in my possession but when I asked the new frontier armory what the total weight of the kit was thats what they told me. do you think that's off in your opinion? Thanks for all input thus far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 29, 2015 Updated with new barrel and a few other parts. Other corrections have been made and parts list has been broken down further. I think at this point if i can find someone to cut the thread area cut down and recrown the barrel for a very reasonable price we are there. If need be I will spring for a much higher price but lower weight upper or I will mill some weight out of the anderson one. Looking for all the help i can get before I start buying parts. Side note: so far this is right about at $800 with all parts and misc expenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 29, 2015 Are there any gunsmiths on the forum willing to do some pro bono work cutting down and recrowning this barrel so we can make this project happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted June 29, 2015 PK I am not sure because i don't have the lpk in my possession but when I asked the new frontier armory what the total weight of the kit was thats what they told me. do you think that's off in your opinion? Thanks for all input thus far. The NFA Standard Parts Kit is 4.8 oz. Don't know what the polymer one weighs. A standard A2 Grip is 2.7 oz. additional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted July 2, 2015 So I found a custom barrel maker (deadshot barrels) online today and had quite a few correspondents with the owner who is now making me a custom 6" 300blk barrel. Now he said that he wasn't sure what the exact weight would be other then he said that it would be under 14 ounces which is what i told him my requirement was under 14oz. In about 3 weeks I should have it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted July 2, 2015 You might have to experiment a lot with the gas port size as 7" is mighty short. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted July 2, 2015 You are right PK. I expect this to be a little challenging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted August 9, 2015 Any updates? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted September 24, 2015 Sorry that I haven't been on here lately. The barrel has been purchased, and new frontier armory polymer lpk just came back in stock today so i ordered 2. I will get going on the pistol permit soon so then i can find an ffl to order the lower followed by the rest of the parts. Sorry that i've been taking a long time with this but it is underway and will happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites