JackDaWack 2,894 Posted July 23, 2015 Couple buddies asked me to go shooting yesterday. I told them to grab some ammo and they showed up with Ten Ring 9mm 115gr. Cases were Headstamped DRT 9mm. Any info on these cases out there? looked but didn't find much on the DRT stamp or ten ring in general. I grabbed probably close to 150 cases to reload. The only thing i can piece together is DRT- Dynamic Research Technology which uses CBC cases, no idea if that's accurate. Debating to throw them out or into my brass bin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted July 23, 2015 Looks like it's a cheap brand of ammo... http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_1195725_-1__?DEVICE_TYPE=NONMOBILE Should probably be ok to reload... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 23, 2015 If you reload and if they are boxer primed, why on earth would you throw them out without even trying them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted July 23, 2015 If you reload and if they are boxer primed, why on earth would you throw them out without even trying them? Honestly, it was more about never hearing of the company before or the headstamp. It felt like uncharted territory to me. I can plug in almost any headstamp and get a manufacture. So when i did a search for it and came up empty, other then retailers selling the stuff i got a little interested in the quality of the brass. I cant even find a company website. I will add for anyone interested, out of about 150 rounds we had 3 FTF rounds of this stuff in a Beretta M9A1. If DRT is in fact CBC re-branded, then i wouldn't even think twice, but recently i get worried with these "new" companies that are or started up simply to fill a gap in the demand for ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 23, 2015 So I assume that you found their website... http://www.drtammo.com/ In the quick research that I did, I didn't find mention of CBC. The Ten Ring ammo just seems to be their conventional line of ammo, as opposed to the frangible and lead-free that is primary in their line. Unless the flash holes are consistently off-center, or the primer pockets are sloppy or misshapen, I'd certainly give them a try. At least they are a known quantity, unlike the range pick-ups that brass scroungers have used for years (that should have stopped with the advent of 9 Major, the .40 S&W unsupported chambers and the use of SPP in .45 ACP). Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted July 23, 2015 Ok that makes sense now. I thought DRT was exclusive to Non-Lead rounds, i see the ten ring at the bottom of the pistol page. Thanks pizza bob, i'll take 10 and pop the primers and if they're consistent ill just throw them in with the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe 95 Posted July 23, 2015 Looks like it's a cheap brand of ammo... http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_1195725_-1__?DEVICE_TYPE=NONMOBILE Should probably be ok to reload... Not cheap price, good lord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mge_1 2 Posted July 23, 2015 Not cheap price, good lord. Who cares about the ammo. Might have to try your BBQ sauce. I'll head up and support!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted July 24, 2015 I like the 'total metal Jacket" in place of FMJ - lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,883 Posted July 24, 2015 I like the 'total metal Jacket" in place of FMJ - lolTMJ has been around for ages. Most FMJ is open at the base so lead can be evaporated during firing. TMJ has the base covered too. Speer has a clean fire version of Lawman that uses TMJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 24, 2015 Just so you know, TMJ is not really jacketed, it is plated so that they get full coverage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,883 Posted July 24, 2015 Not always. I have seen some, can't remember the brand, but was the equivalent of a gas check with the back of the jacket holding it in place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 24, 2015 Did a little research. The only common brand that is jacketed but has a covered base, seems to be Prvi Partizan. They use a FMJ with a plated base - which would seem to be more trouble than it's worth. If you are going to plate the base, why not plate the whole bullet? Eliminates one step from the production process and saves money - ah, those nutty Serbs. LOL. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJKen 23 Posted July 25, 2015 The answer here is shoot hollow points! They are almost always FMJ with the jacket turned around. I got a good deal on Hornady HAP 10mm bullet heads and Im starting to like them more and more Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted July 26, 2015 I have a bunch of boxes of XTP rounds, i believe they are identical to the HAP bullet aside from the cavity. They should be jacketed at the base, i have no idea how they taper the nose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 26, 2015 I have a bunch of boxes of XTP rounds, i believe they are identical to the HAP bullet aside from the cavity. They should be jacketed at the base, i have no idea how they taper the nose. Both rounds have the cavity but the HAP (Hornady Action Pistol) does not have the pre-striated jacket, as it's not meant to expand. I use Hap bullets in my .38 Super. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted July 27, 2015 I will add for anyone interested, out of about 150 rounds we had 3 FTF rounds of this stuff in a Beretta M9A1. I would consider that an unacceptable failure rate for any ammo. I've use enough CBC to know their failure rate isn't 2%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted July 27, 2015 I would consider that an unacceptable failure rate for any ammo. I've use enough CBC to know their failure rate isn't 2%. Considering i have NEVER had a FTF in my Beretta, which has about +2,000 rounds through it over the years, i thought exactly the same. It wasn't my ammo, so i didn't think much of it, but i wish i took a round that jammed and measured the dimensions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites