Kevin125 4,772 Posted August 21, 2015 Detroit Police Chief James Craig started to say legally armed citizens were needed to help solve the crime problem in Detroit back in 2013. Seems a lot of Detroit residents answered the call and are now carrying. Here's a story with an update on the situation. Good example of what we already know to be true. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/21/packing-heat-in-detroit-motown-residents-answer-police-chief-call-to-arms/?intcmp=hpbt4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted August 21, 2015 I can see Mayor Rawlings-Blake of Baltimore making a Voodoo doll of this chief! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted August 21, 2015 Why can't we have police chiefs like this in NJ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted August 21, 2015 Why can't we have police chiefs like this in NJ? We do, but they are controlled by the illustrious local politicians. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted August 21, 2015 I venture to guess that atleast 80 percent of NJ Police Chiefs would have no problem if state law allowed concealed carry by law abiding citizens. The folks at the state level are the ones that make career out of fear and victimization. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted August 21, 2015 Why can't we have police chiefs like this in NJ? because they are just politicians by the time they get to that point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted August 21, 2015 I venture to guess that atleast 80 percent of NJ Police Chiefs would have no problem if state law allowed concealed carry by law abiding citizens. The folks at the state level are the ones that make career out of fear and victimization. I believe the chief of my former town would not have a problem with it. We always had a quick response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotJust22s 10 Posted August 21, 2015 NJ would have put him away for life and built a shrine in memory of the POS that died. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted August 22, 2015 Examples like this need to be pressed into the faces of our politicians as we say "SEE!!??, this is what we're talking about. NJ has NO special conditions that make it impossible for its citizens to exercise their Constitutional rights. And Detroit has NO special conditions that make it a place where its citizens should be granted more Constitutional rights than any OTHER state. Make it happen here!!!" Disclaimer: This post, although uses the word 'politicians' , contains no politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,322 Posted August 22, 2015 Examples like this need to be pressed into the faces of our politicians as we say "SEE!!??, this is what we're talking about. NJ has NO special conditions that make it impossible for its citizens to exercise their Constitutional rights. And Detroit has NO special conditions that make it a place where its citizens should be granted more Constitutional rights than any OTHER state. Make it happen here!!!" Disclaimer: This post, although uses the word 'politicians' , contains no politics. Wanna know what really pisses me off Kevin? I have sent many letters, emails etc to Christie! Never got the courtesy of a response!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted August 22, 2015 Examples like this need to be pressed into the faces of our politicians as we say "SEE!!??, this is what we're talking about. NJ has NO special conditions that make it impossible for its citizens to exercise their Constitutional rights. And Detroit has NO special conditions that make it a place where its citizens should be granted more Constitutional rights than any OTHER state. Make it happen here!!!" Disclaimer: This post, although uses the word 'politicians' , contains no politics. Lol. No disrespect intended' but seriously? You're dealing with liberal, progressive, anti-Constitution, anti-American Dumbocrats. Do you really think they care? Because they don't. Remember, it's about control, not safety or any other bullshit answer they'll give you. It's about their power to control your lives. You have three chances at CCW. 1) throw them all out and replace them with Constitutional Conservatives. Lol, yeah, right. Never happen in New Jersikstan. 2) hope that SCOTUS comes to you aid. Again, lol. Sorry, but doesn't seem like they want to deal with it. 3) move the fuck out of that shithole to America. Sorry, don't see much else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted August 22, 2015 Lol. No disrespect intended' but seriously? You're dealing with liberal, progressive, anti-Constitution, anti-American Dumbocrats. Do you really think they care? Because they don't. Remember, it's about control, not safety or any other bullshit answer they'll give you. It's about their power to control your lives. You have three chances at CCW. 1) throw them all out and replace them with Constitutional Conservatives. Lol, yeah, right. Never happen in New Jersikstan. 2) hope that SCOTUS comes to you aid. Again, lol. Sorry, but doesn't seem like they want to deal with it. 3) move the fuck out of that shithole to America. Sorry, don't see much else. SCOTUS is realistically our only chance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,322 Posted August 22, 2015 SCOTUS is realistically our only chance agreed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted August 22, 2015 SCOTUS is realistically our only chanceP Lol. No disrespect intended' but seriously? You're dealing with liberal, progressive, anti-Constitution, anti-American Dumbocrats. Do you really think they care? Because they don't. Remember, it's about control, not safety or any other bullshit answer they'll give you. It's about their power to control your lives. You have three chances at CCW. 1) throw them all out and replace them with Constitutional Conservatives. Lol, yeah, right. Never happen in New Jersikstan. 2) hope that SCOTUS comes to you aid. Again, lol. Sorry, but doesn't seem like they want to deal with it. 3) move the fuck out of that shithole to America. Sorry, don't see much else. None taken. If they think it will keep them in office, they'd slap their mothers in the face on live television. If they think moving ahead with concealed carry changes, they'll move it forward. I don't have any expectation that A case will go before scotus any time soon that will cause NJ to change anything its doing. In fact, NJ defies the federal gov't now and has been for more than a decade on sanctuary cities. Regardless of what scotus does, NJ will simply ignore it. The politicians here only respond to what benefits them. Am I optimistic that they will... for any reason... change these laws? No. It's possible, but unlikely. Issue is, if it's possible, we should fight for it. For a blue state like Michigan to be more gun friendly than NJ means there is a way to do. Apparently, we're just not doing it right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted August 25, 2015 Before I was hoping for nation reciprocity. But the RINOs Boehner and McConnell are in charge...so it will never even be brought up. What's the use of voting Republican if they don't bother to represent us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites