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H.R. 3717 "Helping Families In Mental Health Crisis Act"

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Since it is my opinion that the root causes of the series of highly-publicized mass shootings are mental illness and / or the breakdown of morals in this country, we the people should focus on fixing those things and not try to regulate the inanimate objects used to commit those acts of violence. I came across an article that this morning that caused me to post here: https://www.yahoo.com/politics/guns-congress-and-murphys-law-090049362.html


“I’m focused on what’s in their head, not in their hand,” he said. “I want to prevent the problems, and when they emerge, I want to ensure that we do the proper risk assessment, and that persons who have a tendency toward violence, if they are seriously mentally ill, should not be able to attain weapons. That’s what I’m focused on cleaning up. That’s what I can do.” - Rep. Tim Murphy, PhD (R-Pa.)


H.R. 3717 "Helping Families In Mental Health Crisis Act"


Summary here: http://murphy.house.gov/uploads/MHOnePager2.18.15.pdf


"The Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act


Untreated serious mental illness in recent acts of mass violence – Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT), James Holmes (Aurora, CO), Jared Loughner (Tucson, AZ), Aaron Alexis (Washington, DC), Elliot Rodger (Santa Barbara, CA) – demands action.


The federal government spends $130 billion annually on mental health. Yet, over the last 20 years the rates of violence, suicide, homelessness, victimization, and incarceration among the mentally have increased.


The House Energy & Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations revealed that those who need help the most have been getting it the least. An astounding forty percent of Americans with a serious mental illness (SMI) are not receiving treatment.


Despite this record of failure, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) has not been reauthorized since the Clinton Administration. More than half of the programs for those with serious mental illness at SAMHSA have never been evaluated for effectiveness or quality.


That is why I will reintroduce the Helping Families In Mental Health Crisis Act (H.R. 3717, 113th) to refocus programs and resources to families and patients with the most challenging cases of serious mental illnesses and bring accountability to federal programs."


- Reforms the Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA)


- Empowers Parents and Caregivers


- Fixes Shortage of Inpatient Beds


- Reaching Underserved and Rural Populations


- High Quality Behavioral Health Clinics


- Alternatives to Institutionalization


- Advances Critical Medical Research


- Criminal Justice Reforms


- Integrates Primary & Behavioral Care




Bill here: http://murphy.house.gov/uploads/HR3717%20Bill%20Text.pdf




Most of you know that I try to regularly highlight the fact that violence and accidents can occur with a variety of inanimate objects (http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/72109-no-firearms-used-can-society-admit-that-its-not-firearms-that-are-the-problem-but-violence-itself-that-is-the-problem/). It is my belief that by taking action to improve the way that our society can identify and treat those that need help, we can reduce not only mass or individual violence, but self-violence (suicide) as well.


Yes, this bill may appear to encroach a bit into personal privacy issues a bit, but, in my opinion, society needs to "say something if they see something." For example, even though I may not care for a particular neighbor, as a responsible member of society, if I see someone breaking into his house, or his house is on fire, I'm going to put my dislike aside and call 911.


We as a country can't go on this way. Even if the most unaware driver can't hear the brakes grinding on their vehicle, somebody will eventually say something before they fail and cause an accident.

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My concern is government getting involved at all. Any time .gov puts their camel nose under the tent, unintended (maybe :tinfoilhat:) consequences occur. We need Heath Care to solve this on its own... aka we need it to be PROFITABLE.

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My concern is government getting involved at all. Any time .gov puts their camel nose under the tent, unintended (maybe :tinfoilhat:) consequences occur.


This is where this slippery slope leads:


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Isn't it interesting how all these problems have started since psychiatrists have started prescribing America's youth medicine for their "conditions"? Children in the US are 3 times more likely to be prescribed psychotropic medication than children in Europe.

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And then there is this... http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/psychologists-bush-officials-torture-program


Psychiatrist is the last person you should trust.    NJ Firearm Laws and Psychiatrists are match made in heaven. 



The worst ones work for private mental institutions intent on nothing but profits, where the kids gets sent.

The mediocre ones prescribe what they have been told, without an open research into things.

The good ones go work for marketing firms, facebook, "brain games" etc..

The excellent ones work for the likes of CIA. 


If it were upto the psychiatrist and NJ politicians, they would find a  "mental illness" in every one who like to exercise any of their rights. 

Where do you think "if you dont have anything to hide..." came from ?  Its a pretty pathetic psychological attempt to invoke individual psych around honesty and integrity...


 If the mental health issues are so serious across US, then why only young men ?  Why they dont happen in some of the other places on earth ? Or do they and only US makes a crazy big deal of everything when it first agenda of certain population ? 

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