tattooo 220 Posted December 1, 2015 O.k....keep us posted when you get the letter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang69 505 Posted December 1, 2015 Could that be the reason? incorrect address? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xchange1980 0 Posted December 1, 2015 Could that be the reason? incorrect address? No if you ask me someone over there made a mistake when sending it out should have been S Union they put D Union look whats next to a D on the keyboard.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted December 2, 2015 Keep us posted and let us know (word for word) what the letter says, it's coming from Trenton (I believe) so it should only take a day or two now that they have the correct address. Mixing up S Union/D Union is understandable, someone made a typo that's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mack 5 Posted December 2, 2015 You said you changed your address so maybe they just didn't have your updated information? I don't know if they even hold that type of info, but If the address you wrote down on the NICS app didn't match what they had maybe that could be a reason for denial. I hope it all works out for you. Good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 2, 2015 Hopefully its something dumb that ca be easily remedied Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xchange1980 0 Posted December 7, 2015 So after them screwing up my address and getting the letter back and never calling me. A month after i first sent the request I finally get this bullshit back. Let me make this clear I have NEVER been involuntarily commited to a mental institution nor voluntary. I'm pissed to say the least.Mind you this is literally right after I changed my address on my FID and got 2 more permits Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted December 8, 2015 Obviously a clerical mistake. Someone with the same name probably. My dad (deceased 20 years) had the same first and last name, middle is different but same starting initial. We lived at the same address, then next door to each other. I cannot tell you how many times I have been denied and the clerk at the LGS tells me the NICS person on the phone is telling him I am deceased. It was funny the first few times, but after repeated requests for correction the problem continues. I have to use my SSN to get approval, I guess the letter tells you what to do. Good Luck. Check with the issuing PD, they get the same information but did not have a problem issuing you paperwork, did they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted December 8, 2015 Was just going to say sometimes it's better to use your social. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xchange1980 0 Posted December 8, 2015 I used my social security # . And yes I just changed my address and got 2 permits about 2 months ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted December 8, 2015 Its quite possible that this info was entered due to "CCATS" . They are just data mining all info from everywhere and entering it without any due process. Then it is up to you to prove yourself innocent. probably someone with the same name but what do they care, just enter all John Does and let god sort em' out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 8, 2015 That sucks dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted December 8, 2015 That sucks, I guess you'll have to convince the State you are mentally stable or prove you they have the wrong person. I hate to say it but this is going to get expensive, I would start by calling them and seeing if they have you confused with someone else (might be best to visit in person w/ a copy of the letter). If that doesn't yield results you might need to consult with a licensed psychiatrist in NJ and undergo a quick evaluation and have them sign off that you are not a danger to yourself/others. If that fails you will need to hire an attorney (better yet, retain one now just in case). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted December 8, 2015 I'd get an attorney. What bullshit if it's inaccurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted December 8, 2015 When you begin this process I highly recommend you audio record any phone conversations, obtain all contact info from who you talked to including state e-mail account, IMMEDIATELY after any phone call send an e-mail to that person thanking them for your phone call ( I know government workers and how easily they forget). record any in person contacts with your phone, save these to a drive as I can guarantee that you will probably need them( just like a dash cam in an accident). And of course you will need an attorney and make to ask about recovering your legal expenses. This is no joke as NICS will follow you across the country. Everyone should be aware of CCATS as ANYONE can and probably will find themselves on the "list" and will have to go through this, It might even be considered the "new norm" for gun owners in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 8, 2015 That is nutz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 8, 2015 Pretty much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted December 9, 2015 Its quite possible that this info was entered due to "CCATS" . They are just data mining all info from everywhere and entering it without any due process. Then it is up to you to prove yourself innocent. probably someone with the same name but what do they care, just enter all John Does and let god sort em' out. CAre to elaborate on CCATS, because google isn't helping me. Too many uses of the acronym and none of them look pertinent to a middlesex county mental health hit. Of course as soon as I post that, I finally dig it up. Civil Commitment Automated Tracking System it's a NJ acronym for them submitting everything and the kitchen sink in the pile of shitty dta labeled "mental health system" to NICS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted December 10, 2015 I hope the original poster keeps us updated as to how he ended up on this list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted December 10, 2015 I hope the original poster keeps us updated as to how he ended up on this list. Yes, I hope so too.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 10, 2015 Me also...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xchange1980 0 Posted December 17, 2015 Well I got amazing news today guys. I called the number the State Police provided to inquire about this so called record of involuntary commitment and I called on 12/8 and gave them all the info they needed and said they will investigate it and call me within 10-12 days. Well i got the call today and they woman told me that Middlesex County Adjusters office had erroneously entered information and she told me everything was fixed and removed and I should have no more issues and they will also be sending me a letter confirming the removal of the record. I am so releived this was sorted out in a fairly short amount of time and I didnt have to hire a lawyer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,321 Posted December 17, 2015 Congratulations Xchange1980!!! I am glad to hear that they found and corrected their mistake!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted December 17, 2015 Well I got amazing news today guys. I called the number the State Police provided to inquire about this so called record of involuntary commitment and I called on 12/8 and gave them all the info they needed and said they will investigate it and call me within 10-12 days. Well i got the call today and they woman told me that Middlesex County Adjusters office had erroneously entered information and she told me everything was fixed and removed and I should have no more issues and they will also be sending me a letter confirming the removal of the record. I am so releived this was sorted out in a fairly short amount of time and I didnt have to hire a lawyer Glad to hear that everything worked out for you, make sure you keep that letter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucin 923 Posted December 17, 2015 Well I got amazing news today guys. I called the number the State Police provided to inquire about this so called record of involuntary commitment and I called on 12/8 and gave them all the info they needed and said they will investigate it and call me within 10-12 days. Well i got the call today and they woman told me that Middlesex County Adjusters office had erroneously entered information and she told me everything was fixed and removed and I should have no more issues and they will also be sending me a letter confirming the removal of the record. I am so releived this was sorted out in a fairly short amount of time and I didnt have to hire a lawyer Great news especially about not having to hire an attorney. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,675 Posted December 17, 2015 Nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 17, 2015 I'm happy for you brother....it sucks but at least they fixed it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted December 17, 2015 It's totally fucked up that you were erroneously on a list. What's the recourse for your delay and mental anguish? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted December 17, 2015 It's totally fucked up that you were erroneously on a list. What's the recourse for your delay and mental anguish? This Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,321 Posted December 18, 2015 It's totally fucked up that you were erroneously on a list. What's the recourse for your delay and mental anguish? That is the reason why the government having lists is a bad idea to begin with! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites