Teky0101 6 Posted December 7, 2015 Good response but it does the address the issue of confronting terrorist attacks. The NRA should be pushing for national conceal carry for all states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 7, 2015 Yeah...now is their opportunity to push for it.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted December 7, 2015 Wayne LaPierre makes a lot of sense, but as an old, white, male he is an unsympathetic figure. If the NRA wants to connect with the public, they need to have a woman saying the exact same thing. Or a person of color, someone like Colion Noir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted December 7, 2015 ^^^ Agree. I am sure they have women staff members who will be more than happy to deliver the message with little practice. Time for NRA to put women forward in their message. Bring moms with little kids who defended themselves or were victims of crime and wish they had the tool at their disposal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 7, 2015 Wayne LaPierre makes a lot of sense, but as an old, white, male he is an unsympathetic figure. If the NRA wants to connect with the public, they need to have have a woman saying the exact same thing. Or a person of color, someone like Colion Noir.Doesnt Noir have some official title/ job with NRA.?I agree with you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted December 7, 2015 ^^^ Agree. I am sure they have women staff members who will be more than happy to deliver the message with little practice. Time for NRA to put women forward in their message. Bring moms with little kids who defended themselves or were victims of crime and wish they had the tool at their disposal. Dana Loesch, perhaps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted December 7, 2015 Good response but it does the address the issue of confronting terrorist attacks. The NRA should be pushing for national conceal carry for all states. So... you want the Federal Government to be at the helm of being the gatekeeper of National Carry? Once that's a federal law, the states will now be inhibited. Since so many states are currently in favor, I think giving that power to the fed may be a mistake... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted December 7, 2015 fastest growing gun org is the national association of african American gun owners or something like that and it's being led by black women. We need these people front and center! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted December 7, 2015 And in news from SCOTUS today, Justice Samuel Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts both voted to NOT hear the case of Highland Park IL's awb. Only Justices Scalia and Thomas voted to hear the case, and it takes 3 justices for the 9 member court to take a case. WTF is wrong with you Alito? Are you changing your mind on Heller and MacDonald???? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Supreme-Court-assault-weapons-second-amendment/2015/12/07/id/704829/?ns_mail_uid=96396008&ns_mail_job=1645652_12072015&s=al&dkt_nbr=dbwyvi6d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted December 7, 2015 And in news from SCOTUS today, Justice Samuel Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts both voted to NOT hear the case of Highland Park IL's awb. Only Justices Scalia and Thomas voted to hear the case, and it takes 4 justices for the 9 member court to take a case. WTF is wrong with you Alito? Are you changing your mind on Heller and MacDonald???? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Supreme-Court-assault-weapons-second-amendment/2015/12/07/id/704829/?ns_mail_uid=96396008&ns_mail_job=1645652_12072015&s=al&dkt_nbr=dbwyvi6d FIFY. And I sure hope he isn't changing his mind..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almiz111 26 Posted December 8, 2015 Yah I agree. We also need a gay, a trans gender, an illegal immigrant and a nun. Gotta be at least one of each that owns a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 8, 2015 Caytlin Jenner will do as our spokeswomanman ......lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted December 8, 2015 And in news from SCOTUS today, Justice Samuel Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts both voted to NOT hear the case of Highland Park IL's awb. Only Justices Scalia and Thomas voted to hear the case, and it takes 3 justices for the 9 member court to take a case. WTF is wrong with you Alito? Are you changing your mind on Heller and MacDonald???? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Supreme-Court-assault-weapons-second-amendment/2015/12/07/id/704829/?ns_mail_uid=96396008&ns_mail_job=1645652_12072015&s=al&dkt_nbr=dbwyvi6d Or the conservative wing of the court doesn't think it has the votes to overthrow the ban. But with Alito, who knows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny 0 Posted December 8, 2015 Caytlin Jenner will do as our spokeswomanman ......lol Buckle up buckeroos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJGF 375 Posted December 8, 2015 ...and it takes 3 justices for the 9 member court to take a case.... I believe it takes 4 justices to agree to hear a case. They usually deny cert without any written denial so this is a bit out of the ordinary. The others might not want to take a case if they don't think they have the 5th vote, Kennedy, on board. A denial of cert is much better than losing a case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 8, 2015 And the two dissenting doesn't mean there aren't others that agree with them. Nobody knows what the vote is and why it went that way except the jusitices Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PDM 91 Posted December 8, 2015 I guess hope springs eternal, but IMHO, as I posted on another thread, its over as far as the Second Amendment and the Supreme Court is concerned. The only hope for NJ as I see it is a conservative Republican win in 2016. As someone mentioned above, a federal concealed carry law is what's needed. It could impose training and background check requirements, but without may issue discretion. If it didn't override less permissive state law it shouldn't be objectionable from a states rights view. It would be completely justified as civil rights legislation, preserving 2A rights in states that don't recognize that right like NJ, and also relating to regulation if interstate commerce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 8, 2015 Cronyn( sp?) bill jus lost by 6 votes on monday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJGF 375 Posted December 8, 2015 Although we all want our rights to be recognized now, this fight may take years or decades to get fully resolved. The Supreme Court can work very slowly. We didn't get the 1896 Plessy separate but equal 7-1 decision to be overturned until the 1954 9-0 Brown decision. That was a very long wait. Support the NRA, SAF, etc. In the mean time NJ has the highest rate of people leaving than any other state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted December 9, 2015 Good response but it does the address the issue of confronting terrorist attacks. The NRA should be pushing for national conceal carry for all states. Exactly! Now is the time...the public is primed. Wayne LaPierre makes a lot of sense, but as an old, white, male he is an unsympathetic figure. If the NRA wants to connect with the public, they need to have a woman saying the exact same thing. Or a person of color, someone like Colion Noir. Great point. Sorry to say, but the NRA had the image of old white fudds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted December 12, 2015 So... you want the Federal Government to be at the helm of being the gatekeeper of National Carry? Once that's a federal law, the states will now be inhibited. Since so many states are currently in favor, I think giving that power to the fed may be a mistake... National CCW is not the point. Leave it with the states, but have the feds outline Maximum standards for Shall Issue and rule non-compliance to be Infringement, Nobody looses, free states are not required to heighten requirements, the states ruled by comrades the party must comply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites