Serious 0 Posted December 12, 2015 Anyone know anything about national reciprocity? LGS employee is making it out like it's gonna happen soon. I just can't imagine it will while obummer is in office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted December 12, 2015 It's not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted December 12, 2015 It would pass in the House, possibly in the Senate, and fail at the oval office. This is the most seated Republic led house since 1949, and Republican led Senate since 2007 and still they are on the defense with this POTUS. Sad, very sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted December 12, 2015 Aint happening Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted December 12, 2015 IMO, it will take more catastrophic events here to get the CCL point across........Unfortunately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted December 12, 2015 IMO, it will take more catastrophic events here to get the CCL point across........Unfortunately. I dread the thought, but unfortunately I fear with all the hype from MSM, some fringe elements believe their time is approaching. Only a "good guy" scenario would help move this along, otherwise I can see the opposite, more federal regulation, banning, and dead sheeple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted December 12, 2015 If anyone had any interest it could be easily done. The SCOTUS won't hear because they would have to approve it under the same logic that they approved gay marriage. Technically both are trampling on state sovereignty but why is it ok for the federal government to say you have to support gay marriage but the not the second amendment. Actually there is stronger case for reciprocity than gay marriage. The constitution doesn't discuss marriage, so what exactly was the court doing? However, the 2a is a constitutional discussion, thus it will never be heard because these liberals would have to pass it and it won't happen. Unfortunately this new crew of fresh liberal justices are young enough that they'll control the court for the rest of a lot of our lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 12, 2015 Anyone know anything about national reciprocity? LGS employee is making it out like it's gonna happen soon. I just can't imagine it will while obummer is in office. https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22114%22%2C%22source%22%3A%22legislation%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22S498%22%7D Although I thought I read recently this was shot down by a narrow margin. I can't find any info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnawing 5 Posted December 12, 2015 It'll happen after President Trump is inaugurated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted December 12, 2015 It'll happen after President Trump is inaugurated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk THIS!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted December 12, 2015 https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22114%22%2C%22source%22%3A%22legislation%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22S498%22%7D Although I thought I read recently this was shot down by a narrow margin. I can't find any info. Well that just means Harry Reid has held it up from voting on it. Damn, I hate that rule where he gets to pick and choose what they vote on. Same in NJ for Sweeney. Bills should be voted on, period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted December 12, 2015 I've read that there's a decent chance of the president signing such a law if it included one or two concessions. It could be packaged as a common sense justice issue: Shaneen Allen, etc. What might the concession be? Obama's legacy is already tarnished as a result of Obamacare and how he and our next president screwed up the middle east. Hmmm, maybe universal background checks? A mostly unnecessary idea, and difficult to implement unless there was some way to do it online, privately, for $8. Enforcement would also be problematic if not impossible. Without actual registration it's impossible to tell where or how someone got a gun. Hmmmm again...I see a good topic for a new thread. One that is sure to get me flamed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted December 12, 2015 It'll happen after President Trump is inaugurated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Exactly...or Ted Cruz. I don't see any other candidate supporting national reciprocity. Plus Obama will never agree to it, even if it passes both houses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted December 12, 2015 Imho, if it made it, prob won't make a difference. NJ can just say they don't recognize any other state like they do now with other things. Unless you have a NJ ccw. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serious 0 Posted December 12, 2015 Not saying this is a good idea but.. Marijuana has been illegal for years and so many people are locked up because of possession or distribution. Now Marijuana is prescribed in NJ and possibly legal in the near future. Wouldn't it work the same way with firearms? Not saying we should all illegally carry but there has to be a point where they realize that they lost and end up making it legal right? I know it's far fetched.. I don't recall so many stories of people from PA coming to nj carrying and doing time until a few years ago. Idk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 12, 2015 Imho, if it made it, prob won't make a difference. NJ can just say they don't recognize any other state like they do now with other things. Unless you have a NJ ccw. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk And nj2as is battling that now. Look, I was born in Idaho, lived everywhere. NJ is still part of the United States. Nj is the most corrupt state I have resided in. That should anger you, my friends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted December 12, 2015 And nj2as is battling that now. Look, I was born in Idaho, lived everywhere. NJ is still part of the United States. Nj is the most corrupt state I have resided in. That should anger you, my friends I agree. Been here all my life and know where the real bodies are buried. Wish them all the luck but it's hard to fight corruption. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 12, 2015 I agree. Been here all my life and know where the real bodies are buried. Wish them all the luck but it's hard to fight corruption. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bad things happen when good people quit.Let put this easier, your house will go to shit if you don't maintain it. Mow da lawn, paint, etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted December 12, 2015 Bad things happen when good people quit. Let put this easier, your house will go to shit if you don't maintain it. Mow da lawn, paint, etc What the Frack are you talking about? Who the fook said I was giving up? Put this easier....bahahaha.... Think you are talking to some kid? Get real bro... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted December 12, 2015 No good man wants the job.........we're just use to it here in NJ, I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 509 Posted December 13, 2015 I don't see it making any difference. We have a constitution that says everyone can own and carry firearms. We have SCOTUS decisions that say everyone can own and carry any firearms that are in common use. What would one more federal law in our favor do? NJ would ignore it and the courts would continue to uphold violations of the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted December 13, 2015 I don't see it making any difference. We have a constitution that says everyone can own and carry firearms. We have SCOTUS decisions that say everyone can own and carry any firearms that are in common use. What would one more federal law in our favor do? NJ would ignore it and the courts would continue to uphold violations of the law. At least you have a plan to get out! Good for you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted December 20, 2015 Sad fact is in all the past attempts of national reciprocity its been written in non-resident ccw from another state = no go in your home state = NJ residence are still screwed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted December 20, 2015 True enough....you need a CCL from your home state.......and in NJ we're left defenseless by our Pseudo Republican Governor, Ex- Federal Prosecutor...........It's Time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted December 20, 2015 Not saying this is a good idea but.. Marijuana has been illegal for years and so many people are locked up because of possession or distribution. Now Marijuana is prescribed in NJ and possibly legal in the near future. Wouldn't it work the same way with firearms? Not saying we should all illegally carry but there has to be a point where they realize that they lost and end up making it legal right? I know it's far fetched.. I don't recall so many stories of people from PA coming to nj carrying and doing time until a few years ago. Idk NJ legislature and court system would rather lock up a law abiding citizen on a firearm technicality or grey area, than prosecute a drug dealer with a gun hanging out of his pants that are half way between his hips and his knees....... Your example above is flawed in that liberal think pot is ok.... so it be said, so it be written. Guns are bad, so it be said so it be written. You must understand that everything liberals like is the way it should be. What they don't, like is bad and scary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serious 0 Posted December 20, 2015 I guess the question is how can we get liberals on the firearm bandwagon? Clearly there has to be some liberals who don't think guns are bad. Just like there are some Republicans that think pot is ok. How can we get the libs to start siding with us on guns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted December 20, 2015 I guess the question is how can we get liberals on the firearm bandwagon? Clearly there has to be some liberals who don't think guns are bad. Just like there are some Republicans that think pot is ok. How can we get the libs to start siding with us on guns? You Can't!!!! We need to vote them out of office!!!! Easier said than done however due to the demographics of the PRNJ!!! We have lots of urban areas heavily populated with people living on welfare and they always vote Democrat since they were brought up to think all Republicans are devils who only care for the rich and want to take their SH!T AWAY!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted December 20, 2015 True enough.....Jersey is a cesspool of humanity who just doesn't give a crap about anything other than getting what's coming to them.......pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted December 20, 2015 Sad fact is in all the past attempts of national reciprocity its been written in non-resident ccw from another state = no go in your home state = NJ residence are still screwed That wouldn't last. Once you have 100,000 people from all over the country carrying guns in Jersey the whole thing would fall apart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites