Dems trying to introduce new "Assault" Weapons ban

[JohnnyB 4,325]

is there any precedent set to give authority for him to do this?

He seems to be setting them himself!!!

[Shawnmoore81 623]

The scary thing here is this. Put the big picture together

 

Trade deals

 

The budget they got the dems to give up the crude export ban. Also allowing a bunch of foreign workers in. Which in trade you get more environmental crap.

 

The border issues

 

Muslim terror attacks

 

Russia testing everyone

 

Iran nuclear deal

 

Un environmental plans

 

 

What would each party have traded off to get these things

 

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[Shawnmoore81 623]

http://thehill.com/regulation/263489-assault-weapons-ban-targets-semi-automatic-guns

 

 

 

 

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[tattooo 220]

Bloomdousche is the worst possible person for us to be pecking in the Presidents ear

[JohnnyB 4,325]

Bloomdousche is the worst possible person for us to be pecking in the Presidents ear

Why?  They both think exactly alike when it comes to guns!

[T Bill 649]

Well. we will see what happens as always politics changes everything. As a sidebar a very similar bill has been kicked around in NJ for years.  Nia Gil from Montclair has proposed the same assault weapons type regulation every session. Changing the two feature rule to one.  Got a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, your screwed.  Look for Mini sales to soar once this passes in 2017.

[JohnnyB 4,325]

Well. we will see what happens as always politics changes everything. As a sidebar a very similar bill has been kicked around in NJ for years.  Nia Gil from Montclair has proposed the same assault weapons type regulation every session. Changing the two feature rule to one.  Got a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, your screwed.  Look for Mini sales to soar once this passes in 2017.

Or we could buy some of those FUGLY AR stocks New Yorkers use!!

[1LtCAP 4,262]

He seems to be setting them himself!!!

he can't legally. eo either needs to take its authority from the constitution, or from a precedent set by congress. that's why i originally asked if the old awb set a precedent

[magnawing 5]

Since when has Odummy cared about precedent, or rules, or Constitutional Legality?

 

 

This signature is AWESOME!!!

[JohnnyB 4,325]

Since when has Odummy cared about precedent, or rules, or Constitutional Legality?

 

 

This signature is AWESOME!!!

He thinks he can do whatever he wants! So he often does!!!

[tattooo 220]

Why? They both think exactly alike when it comes to guns!

I know........that's why I said that.....wellget double teamed by the biggest antis alive

[JohnnyB 4,325]

I know........that's why I said that.....wellget double teamed by the biggest antis alive

Trust me! They have been working together for years!

[Scorpio64 5,153]

This is not going to pass.  If it did though, there would be an explosion in 3D printing.

[ogfarmer 138]

throw in the fact Paul Ryan sold everyone down the river today with his omnibus bill, anythings possible these days.

 

Omnibus bill-

 

Paul Ryan Betrays America: $1.1 Trillion, 2,000-Plus Page Omnibus Bill Funds ‘Fundamental Transformation of America’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/16/paul-ryan-betrays-america-1-1-trillion-2000-plus-page-omnibus-bill-funds-fundamental-transformation-america/

 

 

 Joshua Prince, Esq.'s take on the bill-

 

URGENT: Omnibus Bill Strips 2nd Amendment Provisions

http://blog.princelaw.com/2015/12/17/urgent-omnibus-bill-strips-2nd-amendment-provisions/

[mipafox 438]

he can't legally. eo either needs to take its authority from the constitution, or from a precedent set by congress. that's why i originally asked if the old awb set a precedent

There is plenty of text in the ATF regulatory code he can play around with. Honestly, he could pull off almost anything if he had enough balls (and didn't care about laws or the Constitution, which has has proven.) Nobody could stop him, anyway, except Congress (LOL), the courts (which he has appointed), and Supreme Court (which will say it's Congress' job to keep EOs in check). I have already figured out ways he could use the regs to do pretty much everything on his wishlist, at least under Obamarule World. Yes, I'm sure he has people smarter than me looking at this stuff, but I won't post the examples anyway. And no I won't PM them. I'll leave a Carnac the Magnificent key for later if he goes that far. "rxxxxxx."

[1LtCAP 4,262]

There is plenty of text in the ATF regulatory code he can play around with. Honestly, he could pull off almost anything if he had enough balls (and didn't care about laws or the Constitution, which has has proven.) Nobody could stop him, anyway, except Congress (LOL), the courts (which he has appointed), and Supreme Court (which will say it's Congress' job to keep EOs in check). I have already figured out ways he could use the regs to do pretty much everything on his wishlist, at least under Obamarule World. Yes, I'm sure he has people smarter than me looking at this stuff, but I won't post the examples anyway. And no I won't PM them. I'll leave a Carnac the Magnificent key for later if he goes that far. "rxxxxxx."

i don't know the regs....but i don't doubt you're wrong though.  thankfully, although he seems to have been trying harder than any president i can remember, he also seems to be the least successful that i can remember.

[Scorpio64 5,153]

BO is laying the groundwork for a post presidency career with Bloomberg (or some other anti-2A group).  BO will go on to make hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars in the anti-2A industry.

[mipafox 438]

BO is laying the groundwork for a post presidency career with Bloomberg (or some other anti-2A group).  BO will go on to make hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars in the anti-2A industry.

He's not going anywhere. Provided he leaves office, he will be The Office of the President Emeritus. With presidential seal and everything.

 

He's hinted as much, and he has a habit of pretending to be thing's he's not.

 

 

 

 

[jtd771 18]

Not that I want to give POTUS any ideas, but could he order the AG / FBI to stop NICS activities for a period of time say for a cooling off period?  Probably calculated to be just long enough to shut down most mom and pop gun stores from lack of revenue.

[voyager9 3,434]

Not that I want to give POTUS any ideas, but could he order the AG / FBI to stop NICS activities for a period of time say for a cooling off period? Probably calculated to be just long enough to shut down most mom and pop gun stores from lack of revenue.

Isn't that why there is a default-accept after 3-days?

 

 

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[9X19 125]

Somehow I don't think that executive order will work out so well! Jersey may obey but the free states...............????

They had no choice during the Clinton crime bill/ban...

[9X19 125]

Or we could buy some of those FUGLY AR stocks New Yorkers use!!

I'd sooner melt mine before I would do this to it just to own it...

[9X19 125]

Isn't that why there is a default-accept after 3-days?

 

 

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That will never happen in NJ. No FFL would be crazy enough to be on the hook for that one.

[mipafox 438]

They had no choice during the Clinton crime bill/ban...

They had a choice.

 

And times change.

[mipafox 438]

I'd sooner melt mine before I would do this to it just to own it...

A little payback would be more productive.

[DanMarvel 9]

Cruz needs to remind the Dems..

 

[DanMarvel 9]

Btw heres the video of Cicilline being an idiotd

 

[fslater 62]

Word is that obama is going to announce an executive order to ban "assault weapons".

 

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That might actually be a good thing for jersey. It would force SCOUS to finally take a 2A case. I'm thinking when SCOUS over turned that EO what ever reason they gave for it being illegal federally could be used here in the peoples republic.... It would at least open the door..... set a precedence to argue?  

[Zeke 5,504]

That might actually be a good thing for jersey. It would force SCOUS to finally take a 2A case. I'm thinking when SCOUS over turned that EO what ever reason they gave for it being illegal federally could be used here in the peoples republic.... It would at least open the door..... set a precedence to argue?

if they overturned...

[jtd771 18]

Isn't that why there is a default-accept after 3-days?

 

 

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I thought the 3 days was only after a hold message was received back. If there is no NICS personnel there would be no response at all. Effectively no FFL could sell a firearm. This would leave only private sales which they would then argue is drastically dangerous and that he will not restart the NICS system until a Universal Background Check bill was on his desk to close the "loop hole".