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I wish they'd go after semi-auto shotguns. Maybe then we'd have some support from the "sportsmen".

 

If they had detachable high-capacity magazines, pistol grips, a bayonet lug and a threaded muzzle; they would go after them. I don't know if the "sportsmen" would wake up though. 

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Now my negative nellie take.You can contact any/all reps you want- wont matter, hasnt yet. Demorats will do whatever the fuk they want because they can and dont care what we think.  They own the law/public safety commitee, the Assembly and the Senate, which btw is where Sweeny decides on what bills get heard. Simple math. Our ONE & ONLY safety net for the next 2 yrs are vetoes from the gov- the same one who everyone is trying to embaress and be called out for the liar he is. Strange times here in NJ. And the whole get out and vote thing, I dont buy it. This logic infers only republicans are staying home and not voting. Whos to say how many dems arent voting too, or that if everyone voted the outcome would be even worse for us? Could be better but given the current demographic trend i doubt it, as witnessed by losing a few more republican seats recently. These anti laws that keep getting regurgitated every yr?-you think they're going to disappear when CC is out of office??? Do yourselves a favor and think ahead 2-3 yrs from now and what do you honestly think will happen with(most likely) a demorat gov......Oh yes, i dont want to be remiss so here ya go- keep up the good fight! dont give up! um. oh, get out and vote! What a shame that the state I was born in and lived in for almost 60 yrs has turned into such an irreversable shithole- for so many reasons- that the only way to fix it is with a rearview mirror of a moving van. For those of us who decide/need to stay. make plans to shelter in because a storm is coming. Remember the Newtown School shooting, of course you do, was only a little more than 2 yrs ago. In that same amount of time we'll have a new gov, time goes fast. Think about it, almost here. What are your plans...miricles dont count.

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On voting we are outnumbered so we aren't going to win that way.  They DO pay attention to the number of people who call, email, write and SHOW UP at hearings.  This is how the Dems succeed, we can do it too.  Pay attention to the sympathetic voices, like that of Michael Patrick Carroll.

 

Getting the applicable Republicans (hell ALL Republicans in the Assembly and Senate) to rub the Democrat's noses in it is the only way.

 

Want to contact only your representative??  Here's an interactive map to tell you who to contact - http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/districts/njmap210.html

 

Want to just contact the Republicans on the L&PS Committee?  See above and below for Rible and Peterson.

 

Want to contact the bill sponsors?

Assemblywoman Valerie  Vainieri Huttle Democrat      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1 Engle St., Suite 108, Englewood, NJ 07631  (201) 541-1118
      District Office:  545 Cedar Lane, Teaneck, NJ 07666  (201) 928-0100

 

Assemblyman Raj  Mukherji Democrat      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  433 Palisade Ave., Jersey City, NJ 07307  (201) 626-4000

 

 

Want to write all Republicans?  Here's a full list:

 

Senator Dawn Marie Addiego Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  176 Route 70, Suite 13, Medford, NJ 08055  (609) 654-1498

Senator Diane B. Allen Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  504 Route 130 North, Suite 100, Cinnaminson, NJ 08077  (856) 314-8835

Senator Christopher  Bateman Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  36 East Main St., Somerville, NJ 08876  (908) 526-3600

Senator Jennifer  Beck Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  32 Monmouth St., 3rd Floor, Red Bank, NJ 07701  (732) 933-1591

Senator Anthony R. Bucco Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  75 Bloomfield Ave., Suite 302, 3rd Floor, Denville, NJ 07834  (973) 627-9700

Senator Gerald  Cardinale Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  350 Madison Ave., Cresskill, NJ 07626  (201) 567-2324
      District Office:  1069 Ringwood Ave., Suite 312, Haskell, NJ 07420  (862) 248-0491

Senator Christopher J. Connors Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  620 West Lacey Rd., Forked River, NJ 08731  (609) 693-6700

Senator Michael J. Doherty Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  127 Belvidere Ave., 2nd Floor, Washington, NJ 07882  (908) 835-0552
      District Office:  245 Route 22, Suite 208, Bridgewater, NJ 08807  (908) 722-2427

Senator James W. Holzapfel Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  852 Highway 70, Brick, NJ 08724  (732) 840-9028

Senator Thomas H. Kean, Jr. Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  425 North Ave. East, Suite C, Westfield, NJ 07090  (908) 232-3673
      District Office:  57 Union Place, Suite 310, Summit, NJ 07901  (908) 918-0414
      District Office:  251 North Ave. West, 2nd Floor, Westfield, NJ 07090  (908) 232-2073

Senator Joseph M. Kyrillos, Jr. Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  10 Hwy. 35, 2nd Floor, Red Bank, NJ 07701  (732) 671-3206

Senator Kevin J. O'Toole Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  155 Route 46 West, Suite 108, Wayne, NJ 07470  (973) 237-1360

Senator Steven V. Oroho Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  One Wilson Drive, Suite 2B, Sparta, NJ 07871  (973) 300-0200
      District Office:  1001 Route 517, P.O. BOX 184, Allamuchy, NJ 07820  (908) 441-6343

Senator Joseph  Pennacchio Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  170 Changebridge Rd., Unit A1, Montville, NJ 07045  (973) 227-4012

Senator Robert W. Singer Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1771 Madison Ave., Suite 202, Lakewood, NJ 08701  (732) 987-5669

Senator Samuel D. Thompson Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  2501 Highway 516, Suite 101, Old Bridge, NJ 08857  (732) 607-7580


Assemblyman Robert  Auth Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1069 Ringwood Ave., Suite 312, Haskell, NJ 07420  (862) 248-0491
      District Office:  350 Madison Ave., Cresskill, NJ 07626  (201) 567-2324

Assemblyman Jon M. Bramnick Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  251 North Ave. West, 2nd Floor, Westfield, NJ 07090  (908) 232-2073

Assemblyman Chris A. Brown Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  2021 New Rd., Suite 24, Linwood, NJ 08221  (609) 677-8266

Assemblyman Anthony M. Bucco Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1040 Route 10 West, 1st Floor, Randolph, NJ 07869  (973) 927-2526

Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  146 Speedwell Ave., Morris Plains, NJ 07950  (973) 539-8113

Assemblyman Jack M. Ciattarelli Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  50 Division St., Suite 200, Somerville, NJ 08876  (908) 450-7064

Assemblyman Robert D. Clifton Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  935 Highway 34, Suite 3B, Matawan, NJ 07747  (732) 970-6386

Assemblyman Ronald S. Dancer Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  405 Rt. 539, Cream Ridge, NJ 08514  (609) 758-0205
      District Office:  2110 West County Line Rd., Jackson, NJ 08527  (609) 758-0205

Assemblywoman BettyLou  DeCroce Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1055 Parsippany Blvd., Suite 104, Parsippany, NJ 07054  (973) 265-0057

Assemblyman John  DiMaio Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  245 Route 22, Suite 208, Bridgewater, NJ 08807  (908) 722-1365
      District Office:  127 Belvidere Ave., 2nd Floor, Washington, NJ 07882  (908) 684-9550

Assemblyman Tim  Eustace Democrat      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  205 Robin Rd., Suite 222, Paramus, NJ 07652  (201) 576-9199
      District Office:  35 South Washington Ave., Bergenfield, NJ 07671  (201) 374-2205

Assemblywoman DiAnne C. Gove Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  620 West Lacey Rd., Forked River, NJ 08731  (609) 693-6700

Assemblywoman Amy H. Handlin Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  225 Route 35, Suite 202, Red Bank, NJ 07701  (732) 383-7820

Assemblyman Jamel C. Holley Democrat      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  985 Stuyvesant Ave., Union, NJ 07083  (908) 624-0880
      District Office:  65 Jefferson Ave., Suite B, Elizabeth, NJ 07201  (908) 327-9119

Assemblyman Joe  Howarth Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 

Assemblyman Sean T. Kean Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1955 Highway 34, Bldg. 2A, Wall Township, NJ 07719  (732) 974-0400

Assemblyman Gregory P. McGuckin Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  852 Highway 70, Brick, NJ 08724  (732) 840-9028

Assemblywoman Nancy F. Munoz Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  57 Union Place, Suite 310, Summit, NJ 07901  (908) 918-0414
      District Office:  425 North Ave. East, Suite C, Westfield, NJ 07090  
      District Office:  251 North Ave. West, 2nd Floor, Westfield, NJ 07090  

Assemblyman Declan J. O'Scanlon, Jr. Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  32 Monmouth St., 3rd Floor, Red Bank, NJ 07701  (732) 933-1591

Assemblyman Erik  Peterson Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  178 Center St., Suite 2B, Clinton, NJ 08809  (908) 238-0251

Assemblywoman Gail  Phoebus Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  One Wilson Dr., Suite 2B, Sparta, NJ 07871  (973) 300-0200
      District Office:  1001 Route 517, P.O. Box 184, Allamuchy, NJ 07820  (908) 441-6343

Assemblyman David P. Rible Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1955 Highway 34, Bldg. 2A, Wall Township, NJ 07719  (732) 974-0400

Assemblywoman Maria  Rodriguez-Gregg Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  176 Route 70, Suite 13, Medford, NJ 08055  (609) 654-1498

Assemblyman Scott T. Rumana Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  155 Route 46 West, Suite 108, Wayne, NJ 07470  (973) 237-1362

Assemblyman Brian E. Rumpf Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  620 West Lacey Rd., Forked River, NJ 08731  (609) 693-6700

Assemblyman David C. Russo Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  22 Paterson Ave., Midland Park, NJ 07432  (201) 444-9719

Assemblywoman Holly  Schepisi Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  287 Kinderkamack Rd., Westwood, NJ 07675  (201) 666-0881

Assemblyman Troy  Singleton Democrat      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  400 N. Church St., Suite 260, Moorestown, NJ 08057  (856) 234-2790

Assemblyman Parker  Space Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  One Wilson Drive, Suite 2B, Sparta, NJ 07871  (973) 300-0200
      District Office:  1001 Route 517, P.O. Box 184, Allamuchy, NJ 07820  (908) 441-6343

Assemblyman Jay  Webber Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  1055 Parsippany Blvd., Suite 104, Parsippany, NJ 07054  (973) 265-0057

Assemblyman David W. Wolfe Republican      Votes by Bill     Votes by Subject 
      District Office:  852 Highway 70, Brick, NJ 08724  (732) 840-9028

 

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We may have just gotten a reprieve. Fourth Circuit ruled Maryland's Assault Weapon ban unconstitutional because it banned too many common owned semi automatic Rifles. Didn't strike in entirety and we are in 3rd Circuit but it does give guidance. If NJ was to pass this law and 3rd Circuit doesn't rule against it then Supreme Court will have to hear it. This presidential election is one of the most important ever as far as the Supreme Court and 2nd Amendment goes. As long as we don't get a Dem or a Bush we should be OK.

 

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We may have just gotten a reprieve. Fourth Circuit ruled Maryland's Assault Weapon ban unconstitutional because it banned too many common owned semi automatic Rifles. Didn't strike in entirety and we are in 3rd Circuit but it does give guidance. If NJ was to pass this law and 3rd Circuit doesn't rule against it then Supreme Court will have to hear it. This presidential election is one of the most important ever as far as the Supreme Court and 2nd Amendment goes. As long as we don't get a Dem or a Bush we should be OK. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

SCOTUS doesn't have yo take it. They've passed on other splits I believe.

 

Want to add Christie to your list of dem or bush?

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SCOTUS doesn't have yo take it. They've passed on other splits I believe.

 

Want to add Christie to your list of dem or bush?

They don't have to but likely will. Didn't mention Christie because he has no shot. Bush still scares me. If he places above Rubio in NH he could end up with nomination. He has plenty of funding for the long haul.

 

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They don't have to but likely will. Didn't mention Christie because he has no shot. Bush still scares me. If he places above Rubio in NH he could end up with nomination. He has plenty of funding for the long haul.

 

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Hard to say if they'd take it. They've passed on a few cases since McDonald, even cases that basically thumbed their noses at SCOTUS.

 

I don't think you'd want to put money on Bush. Republicans and Conservatives don't want him. Only the elitists in the Party do.

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Hard to say if they'd take it. They've passed on a few cases since McDonald, even cases that basically thumbed their noses at SCOTUS.

 

I don't thinkyoud want to put money on Bush. Republicans and Conservatives don't want him. Only the elitists in the Party do.

I don't want a Bush period. His father started with the executive order BS prohibiting firearms. Unfortunately I could see him winning. The elite don't want to lose their Bush-Clinton Dynasty so they will pull out all the stops. I think SCOTUS hears this one if a couple more Conservatives are added to the court. It involves strict scrutiny and laws involving 2nd Amendment. Strict Scrutiny is applied to the 1st and it should be to the 2nd as well.

 

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I don't want Bush, but Bush is the governor of Florida, the Gunshine state. He would not be a threat to gun rights.

Was the Governor, 1999-2007.  And Florida has had more Democrat Governors than Republicans in its history, 50/50 split over last 10 who held office, with the last three Republicans.  

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I have been very involved in the gun lobby here in NJ over the years. With the far left politicians that we have, we have little chance of stopping a SAFE act here once "Fidel" Sweeney becomes governor.  The legislatures goal is to take everyone's guns away but they just won't say it that way. The lie and just take our constitutional rights away bit by bit.  The only hope is for Trump or a strong 2nd amendment person to be elected president. This election is it. If Hillary or Bernie gets in there will be no more second amendment.  The next president will appoint 4 or 5 justices to the Supreme Court. With constitutional jurists unconstitutional laws like the safe act can be taken there and overturned.  Meanwhile encourage law enforcement to disobey illegal laws and illegal orders. Those guys have hi-cap magas and semi-auto rifles as well as everyone else.  All people in uniform take an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. They must keep that oath and be reminded to do so. There are also 800,000 gun owners in NJ. If they voted there would be no problem but they don't.

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I have been very involved in the gun lobby here in NJ over the years. With the far left politicians that we have, we have little chance of stopping a SAFE act here once "Fidel" Sweeney becomes governor.  The legislatures goal is to take everyone's guns away but they just won't say it that way. The lie and just take our constitutional rights away bit by bit.  The only hope is for Trump or a strong 2nd amendment person to be elected president. This election is it. If Hillary or Bernie gets in there will be no more second amendment.  The next president will appoint 4 or 5 justices to the Supreme Court. With constitutional jurists unconstitutional laws like the safe act can be taken there and overturned.  Meanwhile encourage law enforcement to disobey illegal laws and illegal orders. Those guys have hi-cap magas and semi-auto rifles as well as everyone else.  All people in uniform take an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. They must keep that oath and be reminded to do so. There are also 800,000 gun owners in NJ. If they voted there would be no problem but they don't.

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I think there are a lot more gun owners in NJ than 800K, problem is, many of them are not legal gun owners and probably vote democrat, some at least two times.

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Let's be honest.... if such draconian law passes, is any nj gun owner going to give a damn and actually modify their guns?

 

At that point there would be only two options..

1. Tell NJ to go screw itself and move.

2. Do nothing and hold onto your guns.

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Let's be honest.... if such draconian law passes, is any nj gun owner going to give a damn and actually modify their guns?

 

At that point there would be only two options..

1. Tell NJ to go screw itself and move.

2. Do nothing and hold onto your guns.

I would prefer option 1 but the wife and kids don't so that leaves me with option 2. Complying with an unconstitutional law is not an option to me. Anyone that does might as well quarter entire police departments in their homes.

 

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I would prefer option 1 but the wife and kids don't so that leaves me with option 2. Complying with an unconstitutional law is not an option to me. Anyone that does might as well quarter entire police departments in their homes.

 

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Thank you for volunteering to be the test case^h^h martyr.

 

Though I would point out that the decision may not be that simple for everybody. We all agree that our families come first. If faced with the possibility of losing my job, and my ability to provide for the daily needs of my family, I don't think comply/not comply would, or should, be a hasty decision.

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Thank you for volunteering to be the test case^h^h martyr.

 

Though I would point out that the decision may not be that simple for everybody. We all agree that our families come first. If faced with the possibility of losing my job, and my ability to provide for the daily needs of my family, I don't think comply/not comply would, or should, be a hasty decision.

^^^ This.

 

It's funny how everyone says "I won't comply". Ok, what happens if you don't. You could be one of the unfortunate that god forbid gets arrested and prosecuted. Even if you do get lucky and win in court, you will be out of a job and knee deep in dept. Who will provide for your family?

 

For me personally, I can't afford not to comply, both financially and morally, for my family's sake. I would either move out of state, neuter my guns, or sell them.

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^^^ This.

 

It's funny how everyone says "I won't comply". Ok, what happens if you don't. You could be one of the unfortunate that god forbid gets arrested and prosecuted. Even if you do get lucky and win in court, you will be out of a job and knee deep in dept. Who will provide for your family?

 

For me personally, I can't afford not to comply, both financially and morally, for my family's sake. I would either move out of state, neuter my guns, or sell them.

I do understand having to provide for one's family. Which if I were you I would take option 1. To comply should not be an option. I am in a situation where I could afford to take the chance and fight the fight.

 

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^^^ This.

 

It's funny how everyone says "I won't comply". Ok, what happens if you don't. You could be one of the unfortunate that god forbid gets arrested and prosecuted. Even if you do get lucky and win in court, you will be out of a job and knee deep in dept. Who will provide for your family?

 

For me personally, I can't afford not to comply, both financially and morally, for my family's sake. I would either move out of state, neuter my guns, or sell them.

It is true, and I suppose it is not a decision for most however you have to look at it this way.

 

When the one a month came, we bitched but dealt with it as there were exceptions.

 

If the Safe act comes, it is comletely draconian, and far easier for people to just say fuck it.

 

In reality.... it is only NJ right?

 

At the very least move guns out of state.

 

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I do understand having to provide for one's family. Which if I were you I would take option 1. To comply should not be an option. I am in a situation where I could afford to take the chance and fight the fight.

 

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Moving is not always an option, especially when one would have to quit their job, and lose a lot in unvested retirement benefits, to do so. And also the family, living in Manalapan both my kids enjoy a high standard of education, I am not willing to give that up.

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^^^ This.

 

It's funny how everyone says "I won't comply". Ok, what happens if you don't. You could be one of the unfortunate that god forbid gets arrested and prosecuted. Even if you do get lucky and win in court, you will be out of a job and knee deep in dept. Who will provide for your family?

 

For me personally, I can't afford not to comply, both financially and morally, for my family's sake. I would either move out of state, neuter my guns, or sell them.

 

 

Those who sell their swords for plows, will plow for those who don't 

 

You choose to live as a "slave" to the state but where will you stand when others do not? Let me guess, you will not stand anyplace and proclaim "not my problem"

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It is true, and I suppose it is not a decision for most however you have to look at it this way.

 

When the one a month came, we bitched but dealt with it as there were exceptions.

 

If the Safe act comes, it is comletely draconian, and far easier for people to just say fuck it.

 

In reality.... it is only NJ right?

 

At the very least move guns out of state.

 

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I wish I had somewhere to move them, all my family and friends live either in NJ or NYC.

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Those who sell their swords for plows, will plow for those who don't 

 

You choose to live as a "slave" to the state but where will you stand when others do not? Let me guess, you will not stand anyplace and proclaim "not my problem"

Seriously? Live as Slaves? I am 100% against the NY style safe act but I can protect my family just as easily with an ugly NY style AR as I can with an AR with a pistol grip!!!

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This is the US, moving is always an option, it may be hard and involve sacrifice, but it's always an option. How did you wind up in NJ in the first place? Did you pick it, or was it forced upon you because your parents moved here and it was just easier and comfy to stay here. I taught my kids that the US is huge, think about the life you want and then pick where you want to live. Need to take into account local politics, cost of living, climate, job potential (NJ is 49th). There are better jobs out there, kids make new friends, lots of better schools. It's not easy to restart somewhere, but that is how the US came into being. Many people enjoy their life here, others have to decide if this is the place for them.

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