Home defense ammo

[dwheel 3]

What does everyone use for home defense pistol ammo?

[1LtCAP 4,262]

i've got critical defense in both my 1911, and sig at home. shotgun just has double0 buck....at the shop, same thing......

[Darrenf 422]

Pretty much same here as 1ltcap, but it's Critical Duty.

[dwheel 3]

Critical duty is what I use too, but I am having second thought about it. It's technically not a hollow point but it functions like one. I'm wondering if I should switch to soft point bullets.

[Bt Doctur 188]

The biggest hollow point I can buy.They are legal Gold Dot

[EX Carnival man 223]

For me its Speer across the board.  From 115 gr all the way up to 230 gr.  124+p gold dot is my favorite 9mm load

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[1LtCAP 4,262]

dumb question. what's the difference between critical duty and critical defensew?

[Krdshrk 3,877]

dumb question. what's the difference between critical duty and critical defensew?

Critical Defense is made for shorter barrel, concealed carry guns.  Critical Duty is for longer barrel, full-size guns.  Basically the critical duty has more oomph behind it.  The bullet heads themselves are the same FTX bullets, but at different weights.  Critical defense 9mm is generally 115gr, though it comes in the 100gr "lite" form as well.  Critical duty is 135gr and can also be found in 9mm +P.

[PD2K 115]

Pretty much same here as 1ltcap, but it's Critical Duty.

Ditto...Critical Duty here FTW

[n4p226r 105]

speer gold dot

[10X 3,296]

Any love for Glaser Safety Slugs when there are other occupied bedrooms on the other side of the sheetrock?

 

They've been almost impossible to find in recent years, but other than that...

[NJGF 375]

Federal HST

[fatty 241]

Winchester ranger T and critical defense

[RichP 115]

9mm - Hornady Custom 124gr. XTP

45 ACP - Hornady Custom 200gr XTP

40 S&W - Hornady Custom 180gr XTP

[High Exposure 5,664]

Fed HST

[Sota 1,191]

Federal HST for the semi's.

XTP based loads for the revolver.

Federal 00 buck for the shotgun.

Rifle... well anything will do there.

[InFamous 311]

[High Exposure 5,664]

Rifle... well anything will do there.

Ehhhhhhhhhh..... Not so much.

 

There are definitely a range of choices that run from completely terrible to very excellent for HD ammo in a rifle.

[Sota 1,191]

Ehhhhhhhhhh..... Not so much.

 

There are definitely a range of choices that run from completely terrible to very excellent for HD ammo in a rifle.

 

yea, I know. but if shit's going so south I need to be sending 2.23/5.56 rounds down range to stops threats, I don't think fancy HP's are what I'm really needing at that point, and more likely just quantity over quality.

[High Exposure 5,664]

What makes your choice of rifle ammo any less important than your choice of pistol ammo for HD? If you have to send anything downrange to stop a threat does it matter if it's rifle or pistol? Ammo selection is just as important for both.

 

Personally, an AR is my primary "bump in the night" gun.

 

If I am giving someone the bees, I want to make sure that the ammo I have will perform the best way possible in my house ie: best terminal effects on target when I hit, with the least amount of energy retained after passing through walls if I miss.

 

Precise fire that hits a threat is much more effective than spray and pray all around your threat. I'd rather get two hits that work than 20 misses that go God knows where.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Oath tango is a nasty round

 

 

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[JohnnyB 4,325]

I use a soft point in my 45-70 lever action for HD. Less chance of over penetration!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, Just kidding!

[GAPP 11]

Corbon Powerball in the pistols and #4 buck in the shotguns

[MidwestPX 172]

Federal HST in the HD pistols.

[oldguysrule649 397]

For HD, I have two mags loaded with Federal Guard Dog for my Glock 19. Expands but is fully jacketed. Also have Critical Duty and Defense on hand.

[Kevin125 4,772]

What makes your choice of rifle ammo any less important than your choice of pistol ammo for HD? If you have to send anything downrange to stop a threat does it matter if it's rifle or pistol? Ammo selection is just as important for both.

Personally, an AR is my primary "bump in the night" gun.

If I am giving someone the bees, I want to make sure that the ammo I have will perform the best way possible in my house ie: best terminal effects on target when I hit, with the least amount of energy retained after passing through walls if I miss.

Precise fire that hits a threat is much more effective than spray and pray all around your threat. I'd rather get two hits that work than 20 misses that go God knows where.

Something like Winchester Super-X Power Point?

 

Wouldn't rounds still be going through a lot of drywall if you miss? I never tested how different cartridges penetrate drywall. Probably worth doing at the range.

[MidwestPX 172]

Something like Winchester Super-X Power Point?

 

Wouldn't rounds still be going through a lot of drywall if you miss? I never tested how different cartridges penetrate drywall. Probably worth doing at the range.

Rifle rounds dump energy in building materials much more efficiently than handgun rounds which tend to retain their energy therefore rifle rounds tend to exhibit less penetration in common building materials than handgun or shotgun rounds.

[Kevin125 4,772]

Rifle rounds dump energy in building materials much more efficiently than handgun rounds which tend to retain their energy therefore rifle rounds tend to exhibit less penetration in common building materials than handgun or shotgun rounds.

Interesting. Wouldn't have expected that. Thanks.

 

Will have to conduct some informal tests at the range. May have to go to Ft. Dix. Don't believe CJ allows that stuff on the range. If I find the time to do it, I'll post some pictures and data.

[High Exposure 5,664]

ATF, FBI, DEA, etc... have already done that for you.

 

Here's the gist:

FBI

 

DEA/ATF

 

 

 

San Diego PD

 

And here is a NJ DCJ test from 2003:

 

http://www.nj.gov/oag/dcj/njpdresources/pdfs/wallboard_test.pdf

[Krdshrk 3,877]

For HD, I have two mags loaded with Federal Guard Dog for my Glock 19. Expands but is fully jacketed. Also have Critical Duty and Defense on hand.

Have you seen the expansion tests for federal guard dog?  Doesn't expand much at all.  They used to make Federal EFMJ which had more power behind it than Guard Dog...  I would go with Critical Defense/Duty over Guard Dog.