wadezky 8 Posted July 15, 2016 Ok all, tomorrow is shopping day, and here are the 2 I'm looking at. We have a brand new S&W m&p sport 2 or I can get a used Colt match target lightweight carbine in good to very good condition (per the store...sight unseen to me as of now). Both are NJ compliant AR's and both are basically the same price.....I meant to ask if there is any discount for paying cash but I forgot so I'll do that later. But I need opinions....given those 2 choices, what would you do?? A 3rd option is a S&W AR 15-22 for about $200 cheaper than the 2 I listed above....I didn't know if I should even consider that or not. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, but tomorrow is definitely the day I'll own one of them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rightisright 3 Posted July 15, 2016 If the Colt is in good shape (bring someone who knows guns with you), that's the way to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wadezky 8 Posted July 15, 2016 If the Colt is in good shape (bring someone who knows guns with you), that's the way to go. I'm hoping that it is in good shape......from everything that I know, a good colt is better than a new S&W any day. I could be wrong, been wrong before, but that's what I think. Plus when I move to a free state, the Colt will be easier to change back to non-evil form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 15, 2016 If that colt has an integral carry handle I would say no, to limiting nowadays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wadezky 8 Posted July 15, 2016 I'll admit I'm an AR newbie so that's why I was looking for the advice. Wouldn't even haven given the carry handle a 2nd thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 15, 2016 That model seem to be a pretty old model. Not only does it have no muzzle device and no way to attach one (which in NJ it would be ok), for me the carry handle would be a show stopper, even assuming it was in good shape. Determining if the rifle is in good shape is not always easy if you are not really familiar with the platform. If I were you I would buy the new rifle, with new rifle warranty and modern features. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wadezky 8 Posted July 15, 2016 Yea actually I was reading some reviews about the seller of the Colt (Surplus City) and they don't seem to have the best reviews, especially on used guns. So the Smith it will be, unless someone convinces me otherwise, but I've wanted the Smith as my entry level for so long that I think that's the one for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rightisright 3 Posted July 15, 2016 If that colt has an integral carry handle I would say no, to limiting nowadays. That's a good point. If you plan on putting any optic on it, the carry handle is not the way to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 15, 2016 Keep in mind you don't "need" a muzzle device. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 16, 2016 Technically no one "needs" and AR either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 16, 2016 Technically no one "needs" and AR either I didn't say that and I'm not saying you said I said that. I realize many in states with crappy laws like NJ feel there needs to be something on the muzzle. I feel in the context of what the 2A says citizens should be able to own a military type firearm whether it be a musket, 03 Springfield, Garand or an AR. Just wanted to make my stance clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wadezky 8 Posted July 16, 2016 Went with the Smith, so I'm officially in the club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas Shooter 35 Posted July 16, 2016 Went with the Smith, so I'm officially in the club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,322 Posted July 17, 2016 Went with the Smith, so I'm officially in the club. Congratulations! Welcome to a club where the dues are quite high! You will probably get bored soon and want NEED the following: A quad rail Extra Magazines Lots of ammo A nice optic A bipod A sling A rail mounted light or laser, or both! A new grip An upgraded stock Etc. Etc..... Worst of all, you will eventually find you need yet ANOTHER AR-15! And another and another..........! Welcome to the club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schrödinger's cat 87 Posted July 17, 2016 Congrats. Beware of extra trigger guards, they spawn complete rifles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted July 17, 2016 Congrats. Beware of extra trigger guards, they spawn complete rifles. Everybody knows that, and do not leave two guns in the closet alone, or they will multiply. Good Shootin' to ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wadezky 8 Posted July 17, 2016 Lol. Classic stuff guys, thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites