Dems Reach New Agreement on NJ Gas Tax Hike

[AVB-AMG 530]

I have read all the posts in this thread and find that I agree with most of what Newtonian has stated.

 

Keep in mind that just over half of the drivers that travel on the NJ Turnpike each day are NOT NJ residents.  If they stop at one of the many rest stops along the Turnpike to fill up with gas, they will be paying the same tax as NJ residents, therefore providing funds for our transportation infrastructure maintenance and construction.

 

Yet, like many others here, my family and I plan to move out of the Garden State sometime over the next 5-6 years, most likely to North Carolina, joining many other NJ transplants escaping the worsening population density, high cost-of living, ridiculous high real estate and other taxes, oppressive gun laws, general rude attitudes and dysfunctional state politics.

 

AVB-AMG

[brucin 923]

This state is a numbers game.  A numbers game of those who work hard, pay their own bills and take care of their own vs the free shit army.  Unfortunately NJ is a socialist state and the free shit army will keep voting them in.  I'm out in September so I give fuck all about politics in N.J. or this gas tax hike but I pity you who believe you can still win the numbers game.  This is not defeatism, it's just being smart enough to know that NJ is a failed state.

No, it's a Ponzi scheme.

[Cereza 106]

It's official, 23¢/gallon tax authorized:

 

[T Bill 649]

Watch what happens went it goes to the Legislature.  If this is progress in NJ, then shut the front door. When we get a new governor in 2018, they will claim  hardship and reverse it.  You seen it live ladies and gents, tax and spend in action in NJ, So let;s see, looks the same to me as two months ago.  

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

After watching the video of CC and observing the facial expressions and thumb twiddling of the leaders of both houses of the legislature, I had to check the soles of my shoes, as I thought I had stepped in some smelly dog shite outside.

Alas, the smell was not from my shoes, but from my computer.

[Zeke 5,504]

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/roster.asp

 

Call Monday! We made them nervous last time!

They need to find a different/ better way

[AVB-AMG 530]

Well, it is about time…. It took an awful railroad commuter train accident at the Hoboken Train Terminal to set the appropriate political moment for NJ’s Governor and State Legislative leaders to agree on a COMPROMISE bill to address our bankrupted state transportation fund. The State Legislature has scheduled a special session for next Wed. Oct. 5th to vote on this

 

While I agree that NJ has some of the highest taxes in the country, this proposed compromise legislation will finally address a number of important funding and tax issues, that go beyond the dire need of paying for repairing, improving and modernizing our transportation infrastructure of roads, bridges, tunnels and railroads. Here is what they have compromised on and agreed to do:

 

1. Raise the NJ gasoline tax by 23 cents as early as next week, which means that NJ’s total gasoline tax will be 37.5 cents. (BTW, the average state gasoline tax is 21 cents).

 

2. Lower the current 7% NJ Sales Tax in a two-step process: A decrease in 2017 to 6.875% and then in 2018 a decrease to 6.625%.

 

3. Phase out NJ’s Estate Tax by 2018.

 

4. An increase in the earned-income tax credit for the working poor.

 

5. A tax break for veterans.

 

While none of us want to pay more taxes, at least this proposed compromise addresses the hard choices our state currently faces. It is better that this occur now, with gasoline prices still relatively low, recognizing that something had to be done to fund the state’s TTF and restart stalled new construction and ongoing maintenance work. I applaud that this will also address NJ’s ridiculously low threshold of the state’s estate tax, by eliminating it in its entirety.

 

Finally a breakthrough of the legislative roadblocks of the polarized state government that has lasted far too long. This compromise bill is an example of how government is supposed to work and that government can in fact work. Both parties not getting everything that they want, but at least some of what they want and moving forward to give NJ’s residents confidence that progress can be made. Whether we plan to live in NJ for the short or long term, we need this type of cooperation in Trenton to continue.

 

AVB-AMG

[SW9racer 262]

This is not a compromise, this is another republican failure for NJ. What happened to the proposed roll-in of the new gas tax, all at once now. What happened to a real reduction of the sales tax, really - they have to roll in a savings of less than a half cent over time? We never had a funding issue, we have a spending, double dipping, waste issue. The Dems got everything they wanted and more- full tax hike effective immediately. All of these perceived tax cuts will all be rolled back in 2018 before they even help anyone. Another big time loss for the shrinking NJ middle class (as if there are any left).

[bhunted 887]

Tiny state tax decrease does nothing & most other stuff does nothing for the middle income worker. That's about $4 more to fill a tank of an average midsize car. IF the dumarses learn to stop wasteful spending on road budgets, fix the damn things right the first time, they'd be better. But shabby work & patching potholes, does nothing. No more increased budgets! No more wasting annual left over money just to get a bigger budget the following year! Time to move out of this corrupt craphole.

 

 

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[Zeke 5,504]

Avb

Nj transit charges a fare for their services. They should use that income to fix their trains.

[10X 3,296]

We never had a funding issue, we have a spending, double dipping, waste issue. 

 

 

Yep, that's exactly the problem.

[diamondd817 827]

I will be buying my gas in NY as it will be cheaper there.

[PeteF 1,044]

Well, it is about time….  It took an awful railroad commuter train accident at the Hoboken Train Terminal to set the appropriate political moment for NJ’s Governor and State Legislative leaders to agree on a COMPROMISE bill to address our bankrupted state transportation fund.  The State Legislature has scheduled a special session for next Wed. Oct. 5th to vote on this

 

While I agree that NJ has some of the highest taxes in the country, this proposed compromise legislation will finally address a number of important funding and tax issues, that go beyond the dire need of paying for repairing, improving and modernizing our transportation infrastructure of roads, bridges, tunnels and railroads.  Here is what they have compromised on and agreed to do:

 

1.  Raise the NJ gasoline tax by 0.23 cents as early as next week, which means that NJ’s total gasoline tax will be 37.5 cents.  (BTW, the average state gasoline tax is 0.21 cents).

 

2.  Lower the current 7% NJ Sales Tax in a two-step process:  A decrease in 2017 to 6.875% and then in 2018 a decrease to 6.625%.

 

3.  Phase out NJ’s Estate Tax by 2018.

 

4.  An increase in the earned-income tax credit for the working poor.

 

5.  A tax break for veterans.

 

While none of us want to pay more taxes, at least this proposed compromise addresses the hard choices our state currently faces.  It is better that this occur now, with gasoline prices still relatively low, recognizing that something had to be done to fund the state’s TTF and restart stalled new construction and ongoing maintenance work.  I applaud that this will also address NJ’s ridiculously low threshold of the state’s estate tax, by eliminating it in its entirety.

 

Finally a breakthrough of the legislative roadblocks of the polarized state government that has lasted far too long. This compromise bill is an example of how government is supposed to work and that government can in fact work.  Both parties not getting everything that they want, but at least some of what they want and moving forward to give NJ’s residents confidence that progress can be made.  Whether we plan to live in NJ for the short or long term, we need this type of cooperation in Trenton to continue.

 

AVB-AMG   

Compromise my ass!

 

Fuck over the tax payer is what it is.  Want a compromise CUT FUCKING SPENDING!    Why is it that government is the only entity that when there is a budget problem,  the first and only thought is how can we steal more money.

[Zeke 5,504]

I think you need to calm down

[T Bill 649]

What how much actually goes to road improvements and maintenance. Lion share will go to light rail in cities no one wants to live in, new buses but no new service and other crap, including salaries at the top.  Let the commuters pay their fare share, and stop subsidizing mass transit to nowhere.  

[InFamous 311]

Compromise my ass!

 

Fuck over the tax payer is what it is.  Want a compromise CUT FUCKING SPENDING!    Why is it that government is the only entity that when there is a budget problem,  the first and only thought is how can we steal more money.

 

The end of every year they do road projects that DO NOT need to be done, only to make sure next year they get a fatter check. This isn't a mystery or a theory or anything like that. THIS IS FACT!

 

I think you need to calm down

 

If you're talking to Pete, he's 100% correct and does not need to calm down. If anything all of us should be more riled up. The bullshit spending on nonsense in NJ is why our taxes are so high. NOT because "it just costs that much to fix it". We don't need a tax increase to fund our roads. We need complete and utter bullshit spending to STOP!

[W2MC 1,699]

Compromise my ass!

 

Fuck over the tax payer is what it is.  Want a compromise CUT FUCKING SPENDING!    Why is it that government is the only entity that when there is a budget problem,  the first and only thought is how can we steal more money.

 

I dont think he needs to calm down...I think he called a spade a spade.

 

The pols bankrupted the transportation fund, then went back to the trough to soak us again.  Do you REALLY believe this was a surprise?  That no one saw this coming?  It was an "engineered" crisis, with the sole purpose of propping-up the unions by increasing spending on construction.

[InFamous 311]

Think about this and how you would react. Fuel/gasoline is a required necessity to most of NJ. They are increasing the tax by .23 cents a gallon. On average gas is around $2.00 right now.

 

How about I tell you, that you now have to pay .12 cents for every dollar worth of clothes and unprepared food you want to buy at Shop Rite tomorrow. But we'll lower sales tax by a 1/3rd a percent.

 

Seems fair right?

[njpilot 671]

Wow, one person on this board is happy that they raised the gas tax 23 cents. That's the problem you guys face, too many people happy to pay higher taxes.

 

Get the hell out while you can.

[josephrudyrullo 39]

New Jersey lawmakers plan to vote on a 23 cent/gallon gas tax hike Wednesday. If you agree that they don't need more of your hard earned money, take action now: www.StoptheNJGasTax.com

[josephrudyrullo 39]

New Jersey lawmakers plan to vote on a 23 cent/gallon gas tax hike Wednesday. If you agree that they don't need more of your hard earned money, take action now: www.StoptheNJGasTax.com

[PK90 3,570]

Okay. Is it 23 cents, or .23 cents as some posters are stating. Big difference.

 

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[67gtonut 847]

It's 23 cents per gallon.....  NOT .23 of a cent

[InFamous 311]

My local Shell will go from $1.99 to $2.22. 

[InFamous 311]

I luckily don't drive much, but this will still be a $4.50 impact every 1.5-2 weeks. Let's say it's every 1.5 weeks.  That's $156 a year which will NOT be recuperated in w/e sales tax decreas they claim they're gonna give us.

 

If you wanna argue with me. Give me $150 and another $300 for how much my wife drives then maybe I'll listen to your argument...

[voyager9 3,434]

How about I tell you, that you now have to pay .12 cents for every dollar worth of clothes and unprepared food you want to buy at Shop Rite tomorrow. But we'll lower sales tax by a 1/3rd a percent.

They just did. How do you think that stuff gets to the stores? You think ShopRite and others will just pay more for fuel? Everything we buy is will go up in price.

[Jim Hartman 31]

100% of this will be laundered in one way or another to keep Democrats in power for all of eternity in NJ. 

[SW9racer 262]

I luckily don't drive much, but this will still be a $4.50 impact every 1.5-2 weeks. Let's say it's every 1.5 weeks. That's $156 a year which will NOT be recuperated in w/e sales tax decreas they claim they're gonna give us.

 

If you wanna argue with me. Give me $150 and another $300 for how much my wife drives then maybe I'll listen to your argument...

It will be much worse than this for all of us.

How do all products get to the stores in NJ? What do the landscapers run in their equipment? How do the local contractors get their equipment to your home? You will see another tax surcharge for shipping to this zone from ups/fedex. We are all going to see an increase across the board for everything we buy - food/clothes/shipping/home contractors/etc.

 

And there is plenty of room to increase the tax, we went from #49 to #7. The dems have their eye on #1

[W2MC 1,699]

100% of this will be laundered in one way or another to keep Democrats in power for all of eternity in NJ. 

 

You forgot the RINOs.......

[AVB-AMG 530]

Apparently, the vote has now been postponed until this coming Friday, 10/07.

 

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/23-cent_gas_tax_deal_may_be_stalled_in_legislature.html

 

AVB-AMG