Polak 3 Posted July 27, 2016 Just ordered a Kriss Vector 9mm. Where am I going to put it? I have to stop buying.............until the next one. Pics up as soon as I get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted July 27, 2016 I feel your pain. I have to play a 3D game of safe-tetris with every purchase. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted July 27, 2016 Time to upgrade Sent from my Z812 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo2936 297 Posted July 27, 2016 I'm glad i purchased something larger. When it comes down to it, i'll probably just take all of the ammo and cleaning stuff out of the one side of my safe and put rifles there, too. I like having everything nicely organized on shelves, but can always get a small metal cabinet for just the ammo and random odds and ends. I started keeping a full 15/30 hexmag in one of my rifles instead of a 10rd magpul and that completely messed up my organization.. Didn't think about it, but ordered 2 tan and 2 OD green so that i can rotate mags without having to remember the numbers. Numbered all of my mags, too, with a paint sharpie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted July 27, 2016 http://www.gallowtech.com Think gun room. It's the best move I've made. There are other products. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted July 27, 2016 Same boat on the safe. I only have long guns in there too.... Lambo, what do you mean by "rotate mags"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted July 27, 2016 http://www.gallowtech.com Think gun room. It's the best move I've made. There are other products. Definitely a viable option. I've priced a few out. Sent from my Z812 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted July 27, 2016 I found instant room by just keeping my AR15 lowers in the safe and stashing the uppers someplace else. That way all my AR lowers took up a shelf rather then the complete rifle taking up primo real estate in the rifle rack. But, eventually had to buy more safes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo2936 297 Posted July 27, 2016 Same boat on the safe. I only have long guns in there too.... Lambo, what do you mean by "rotate mags"? I keep two mags for my AR Loaded in my safe, same with my HG... Instead of keeping the same two mags always loaded, i can rotate them by having FDE Mags loaded for Month A, Then for month B do the OD mags, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted July 27, 2016 I keep two mags for my AR Loaded in my safe, same with my HG... Instead of keeping the same two mags always loaded, i can rotate them by having FDE Mags loaded for Month A, Then for month B do the OD mags, etc. Ok. That's what I thought. This is an unnecessary precaution that actually does the opposite of your intended goal. Modern magazine springs are affected by cycling - the process of repeated compression and relaxation of the mag springs. Leaving a magazine loaded for a long period of time is actually better than routinely loading and unloading them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted July 27, 2016 You'd be better off having FDE loaded and od unloaded if you did that. At least you'd have a visual representation of what's loaded and not. Or just load them all up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted July 27, 2016 Keep em all loaded I made up a mag holder to fit on the door of the safe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted July 27, 2016 Keep em all loaded I made up a mag holder to fit on the door of the safe Yeah, an unloaded gun is a pretty useless tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo2936 297 Posted July 27, 2016 You'd be better off having FDE loaded and od unloaded if you did that. At least you'd have a visual representation of what's loaded and not. Or just load them all up Thats what i do. Right now, the 2 FDE's are loaded, and the two OD's are unloaded and put away... In a few months, i'll reverse that. HE, is there any real proof to that? My assumption was, similar to what happens with a vehicle (or spring mattress), when it is compressed (especially when fully loaded) for long periods of time without resting it will end up staying that way, or lose its springy-ness. With snowmobiles (or any recreational vehicle), the general consensus is to keep em on jacks and off of the tracks/skis when not being used... Prevents sagging and unnecessary wear on suspension components. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted July 27, 2016 Thats what i do. Right now, the 2 FDE's are loaded, and the two OD's are unloaded and put away... In a few months, i'll reverse that. HE, is there any real proof to that? My assumption was, similar to what happens with a vehicle (or spring mattress), when it is compressed (especially when fully loaded) for long periods of time without resting it will end up staying that way, or lose its springy-ness. With snowmobiles (or any recreational vehicle), the general consensus is to keep em on jacks and off of the tracks/skis when not being used... Prevents sagging and unnecessary wear on suspension components. For any spring, that's not true. Springs like to return to their heat treated form. By repeated cycling, they lose that ability. It's not the compression or expansion, rather the cycling between the 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted July 28, 2016 Thats what i do. Right now, the 2 FDE's are loaded, and the two OD's are unloaded and put away... In a few months, i'll reverse that. HE, is there any real proof to that? My assumption was, similar to what happens with a vehicle (or spring mattress), when it is compressed (especially when fully loaded) for long periods of time without resting it will end up staying that way, or lose its springy-ness. With snowmobiles (or any recreational vehicle), the general consensus is to keep em on jacks and off of the tracks/skis when not being used... Prevents sagging and unnecessary wear on suspension components. Absolutely. The easiest visualization is if you were to straighten a paper clip then bend it back and forth. It breaks as the metal is weakened as it's worked. Magazine springs do not take a set. I've shot loaded GI mags older than me without issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted July 28, 2016 When I ran out of room I decided to go cheap and and got a Stack On cabinet for the cheaper guns like the Mosins and 22 plinkers. When I ran out again I decided not to buy anymore untill I leave this state and can get wtf I want and will be happy to get another real safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted July 28, 2016 I now have a room for everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silphidae 33 Posted July 28, 2016 I found instant room by just keeping my AR15 lowers in the safe and stashing the uppers someplace else. That way all my AR lowers took up a shelf rather then the complete rifle taking up primo real estate in the rifle rack. But, eventually had to buy more safes.This as been a lifesaver, along with using thread spools to hang the handguns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted July 28, 2016 Thats what i do. Right now, the 2 FDE's are loaded, and the two OD's are unloaded and put away... In a few months, i'll reverse that. HE, is there any real proof to that? My assumption was, similar to what happens with a vehicle (or spring mattress), when it is compressed (especially when fully loaded) for long periods of time without resting it will end up staying that way, or lose its springy-ness. With snowmobiles (or any recreational vehicle), the general consensus is to keep em on jacks and off of the tracks/skis when not being used... Prevents sagging and unnecessary wear on suspension components. Yes. Science As long as you don't compress a spring past its elastic limit, there is nothing wrong with keeping a spring compressed. I have fired multiple magazines through an M3 "Grease Gun" that were loaded during Vietnam. They all ran fine. I was always taught to lift a snowmobile/trailer/etc... off the ground to keep the skids, treads, and tires off the ground so they don't rot. It had nothing to do with the suspension or springs. We don't lift our cars up off the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 3 Posted July 28, 2016 When I ran out of room I decided to go cheap and and got a Stack On cabinet for the cheaper guns like the Mosins and 22 plinkers. When I ran out again I decided not to buy anymore untill I leave this state and can get wtf I want and will be happy to get another real safe. I decided not to buy any more but they just keep sprouting out of the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted July 28, 2016 I have this one now But the door organizer holds more pistols A military m-16 rack A cabinet for pellet guns And Small pistol safe in my bed room. So I got some wiggle room Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo2936 297 Posted July 28, 2016 Lmao some of you people are nuts. I wish i had the space for all of that. I sleep next to my 35-gun safe.... LOL.... well, its at the foot of the bed, between the bed and the wall. HE, i wasn't aware. I was always told keeping a spring compressed with a load is a no-go. Even with my truck. Ya learn something new every day, i guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted July 28, 2016 This as been a lifesaver, along with using thread spools to hang the handguns. Nice Wilson x-tac you got there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted July 28, 2016 ...using thread spools to hang the handguns. Oh that is slick, I'm totally stealing that. Thanks for sharing. I will not be placing any firearms so that the spools are inside the trigger guards though... All you guys with the inside the safe pics - what are your home addresses again? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted July 28, 2016 Finding my house is the easy part Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted July 28, 2016 Finding my house is the easy part Getting the accomplice to wear the mountain lion suit and lure you out is the slightly harder part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted July 28, 2016 There's the thing. If it's outside I'm not Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silphidae 33 Posted July 28, 2016 Nice Wilson x-tac you got there[/quoteOh that is slick, I'm totally stealing that. Thanks for sharing. I will not be placing any firearms so that the spools are inside the trigger guards though... All you guys with the inside the safe pics - what are your home addresses again? I stole the idea a while ago, works great. All guns in n the main safe are unloaded so no biggie about the trigger guard. If you place them horizontal you can easily get a way with one in the undercut of the trigger guard and one near the beaver tail. Had them like that until the door started getting crowded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silphidae 33 Posted July 28, 2016 Nice Wilson x-tac you got there Stalker....... I really like that gun snd a little brother in 9mm is on the short list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites