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NJ CCW Property Carry

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JackDaWack    2,895

JackDaWack
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If you have a contract with your name on it that says your a partner for what ever percentage than I believe it is your place of business. I don't think being an employee has any bearing on the issue. The only thing the law says is "your place of business".

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weekend_junkie    129

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Then again if you are worried about something have your dad get a FID, keep a shotgun at the business, and if your life is in danger who cares about the law, there is an available firearm, use it !

I forget the passage, but there I believe there is amnesty from an illegal transfer if used in a defense situation (I.e. You grab dads gun, which he stores at his place of business.) This does not allow you to carry, as covered already.

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Lambo2936    297

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^Lmao.

I went over this same question probably a few weeks ago.. NJ Law sucks.. My father owns a property that i manage in Newark, but i still can't carry there as i do not own it. Not much i can do about it, haha...
The general consensus on here seemed to be to bring a 12G with me but keep it unloaded. I believe its still legal, being a long arm, as long as its unloaded?

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Lambo2936    297

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It is not my business, nor my property. My understanding is as such, it is illegal for me to do so. I have a business that sells stuff online that stores stuff there, but i dont have a lease or anything. Even if i did, it would only cover me in the two units i store stuff in. The building is a storefront property, so i cant walk around with my Mossberg strapped to me on the street, though itd be nice to have with me in the primary warehouse in the back which is a few thousand sqft.

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Lambo2936    297

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Well if anyone has an opinion on which lawyer I should talk to, please let me know. Then i'll report my new information back to here :)

To be honest, i dont think there is much of a point in paying to consult a lawyer. The laws are fairly clear; transporting to that location is illegal, as it is not exempt (not a range, your residence, or a LGS etc) and you can't carry unless it is YOUR business or YOUR property. If you are not a partner, you can't carry there. If you ARE, then definitely double check with a lawyer; they may want you to be a majority owner or something stupid like that.

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orangesolo    26

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To be honest, i dont think there is much of a point in paying to consult a lawyer. The laws are fairly clear; transporting to that location is illegal, as it is not exempt (not a range, your residence, or a LGS etc) and you can't carry unless it is YOUR business or YOUR property. If you are not a partner, you can't carry there. If you ARE, then definitely double check with a lawyer; they may want you to be a majority owner or something stupid like that.

 

Dont most lawyers generally have free consultation for the first time?

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PK90    3,570

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It is not my business, nor my property. My understanding is as such, it is illegal for me to do so. I have a business that sells stuff online that stores stuff there, but i dont have a lease or anything. Even if i did, it would only cover me in the two units i store stuff in. The building is a storefront property, so i cant walk around with my Mossberg strapped to me on the street, though itd be nice to have with me in the primary warehouse in the back which is a few thousand sqft.

A carry permit is only good for a handgun. A FPID is for carrying a long gun. But that is for another thread, which has been covered ad nauseum.

 

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Lambo2936    297

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A carry permit is only good for a handgun. A FPID is for carrying a long gun. But that is for another thread, which has been covered ad nauseum.

 

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So i can legally prance around Newark with my AR15, locked and loaded, strapped to my back?

I've got a feeling that wouldn't end too well.

 

 

As far as the lawyer thing, i believe the free consultation would be if you were looking to sue someone, etc..

I doubt theyd bother looking into NJ gun law (and, as stated, the VAST majority know jack **** about NJ gun law, besides for a handful that are mentioned on these forums) just to give you a free consultation that they KNOW won't lead them to making any money.

They only do so when they have something to gain; and i don't blame them... I hate having to answer peoples 500 questions only to have them offer 20% of my asking price on an item..

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weekend_junkie    129

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^ that's interesting to know, thanks. I always thought it was illegal but obviously still showed my wife how a gun works because if it hits the fan you gotta do what you gotta do.

Ok, I had to review all the relevant sections of 2C, but haven't found what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I may have lead you astray.

 

Anyway, here goes...

 

I'm tired and overworked lately, so I may have been thinking of 2C:39-5 g.(1) and 2C:39-5 g.(2) where it states that temporary possession is not unlawful possession. Unfortunately, that temporary possession under 2C:58-3.2 is not unlawful because it's for target practice.

 

I'll keep reading for what I thought was the relevant passage, but don't let your wife shoot any intruders until then...ok?

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Smokin .50    1,907

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I think this is related -- if not point me elsewhere.

 

What about having a firearm on church property? I am a trustee of the corporation... viewed the same as an owner?

 

 

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NO, sorry!  Unless of course you have a legal document showing your "significant percentage of ownership" naming YOU as a part-owner of The Very Big Corporation, Inc (the Church).  Every member of a Church is technically NOT an "Owner".  As the Vice President of NJ's busiest Second Amendment Organization (CNJFO), I'm also a Trustee and sit on its' Board of Trustees.  The Trustees don't OWN the Non-Profit Corporation, as by law we can't become Shareholders.  We merely MANAGE it, making the necessary fiduciary decisions that enable the corporation to grow and proper :) .

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sinjin    1

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NO, sorry! Unless of course you have a legal document showing your "significant percentage of ownership" naming YOU as a part-owner of The Very Big Corporation, Inc (the Church). Every member of a Church is technically NOT an "Owner". As the Vice President of NJ's busiest Second Amendment Organization (CNJFO), I'm also a Trustee and sit on its' Board of Trustees. The Trustees don't OWN the Non-Profit Corporation, as by law we can't become Shareholders. We merely MANAGE it, making the necessary fiduciary decisions that enable the corporation to grow and proper :) .

Helpful, thanks

 

 

 

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