louu 399 Posted November 9, 2016 So has anyone noticed (caught) any places doing the "cheaper than dirt" election opposite sale? I found one, I'm shocked and pretty pissed about it. Call them out here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted November 9, 2016 I haven't seen one yet. Who did you see? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMan 45 Posted November 9, 2016 Call them out bro! I love supporting local but they have to support us too! Who was it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 9, 2016 Supply and Demand Some distributors have raised their prices days ago, so it gets passed on to the consumer. Here is a sample of one getting ready to change theirs: Thank you for your interest in MGE Wholesale. We are currently updating our inventory. As the update completes, we suggest contacting your salesperson directly for current inventory levels and pricing: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted November 9, 2016 I have an online retail store. We ended up with a sort-of-celebrity edorsement (he's at least a celebrity in our little nitche market) that we didn't expect. Sales tripled for about 2 months. We couldn't keep up. We hired high school kids to help us fill orders, we bought out all of our suppliers. We really struggled to meet demand. We needed to curtail demand so we raised our prices. We made our product less desirable by making it too expensive and sales slowed to a level we could meet. We weren't intending to gouge. I'm sure that some saw our price increase and thought that was what we were doing. Sellers who increase prices during times of higher demand are not necessarily cheating. I'd argue that both the buyer and seller have to agree on a price or the sale won't happen. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 9, 2016 Nice explanation maintenanceguy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted November 9, 2016 Supply and demand. I get prices go up, bills go up, bills need to be paid - but there's a difference between raising a couple bucks on products to 300%. Either way, you guys should have done this shopping for the past years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted November 9, 2016 so name names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted November 9, 2016 Got to remember when dealing with foreign made goods, prices change daily based on world markets. Your final price changes even as the goods move on the high seas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted November 9, 2016 We raised prices today on some items to MSRP (from MAP, usually a 5% difference but varies by brand) and put hard quantity limits on mags. While we braced pretty heavily inventory-wise (we're carrying 10x as many PMAGs as normal), an overnight run on stuff could put us in a tough spot. The other consideration we have to take into account is our wholesale network and trying to keep them fed with product during shortages so using a price of MSRP rather than MAP to gently adjust the split in sales should have been relatively painless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
concrete_boots 19 Posted November 9, 2016 Worthless without names Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Rizzo 59 Posted November 9, 2016 Worthless without names Agreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louu 399 Posted November 9, 2016 I figured he would come on here and call himself out with some kind of excuse and most guys would eat it right up. To me price gouging is price gouging, no excuse for it period. I also didn't want this thread to turn into a shit show and get deleted by the mods. I'm talking about MidwestPX, Monday the price on the MidwestPX lower receiver was 129.95. On election day the price went up to 159.95. I have been watching many retailers, even cheaper than dirt (not that I ever bought anything from there) and none of them price gouged on election day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted November 9, 2016 ... wonder if prices will go down today? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted November 9, 2016 Still going up, just not as much. Now in 2018, watch them drop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 9, 2016 IMO, price gouging can only be on necessities, ie. food, shelter, clothing, etc. Magazines, ammo, holsters, etc, are controlled by supply and demand. If you don't like the prices, don't buy it. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louu 399 Posted November 9, 2016 Still going up, just not as much. Now in 2018, watch them drop T bill, can you be more specific about the retailer? Are you talking about ammo or guns and parts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted November 9, 2016 Generally, no specific retailer. Prices were already tracking upward and pressure in the wholesale market about the election, forced prices upward. Now with no big buying frenzy on the horizon and less people buying, it will take a little time before retailers consider selling at a lower profit margin. Springtime is the next logical timeframe for price reductions as the shooting season picks up again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted November 9, 2016 I figured he would come on here and call himself out with some kind of excuse and most guys would eat it right up. To me price gouging is price gouging, no excuse for it period. I also didn't want this thread to turn into a shit show and get deleted by the mods. I'm talking about MidwestPX, Monday the price on the MidwestPX lower receiver was 129.95. On election day the price went up to 159.95. I have been watching many retailers, even cheaper than dirt (not that I ever bought anything from there) and none of them price gouged on election day. So now selling something for MSRP is gouging? MSRP: Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Pricing. You're upset about increased prices, not gouging. Gouging is showing up to an area that was just hit by a natural disaster and selling bottled water for $50/bottle because you're the only game in town. In reality, the pricing on that lower specifically should have been adjusted to MSRP the second we found out that the machine shop that makes them is out of business and we can't get any more at a cost that would support that pricepoint (or any pricepoint now). You, specifically, louu, should know we aren't malicious in our pricing. Remember that BCG you bought that went on sale a couple days later and you received a prompt refund for the difference ($25 or so IIRC) without asking for it? You didn't complain about the price changing then because it was in your favor. But you'll begrudge us a $30 increase on an item that we can't replace once we sell out? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted November 9, 2016 T bill, can you be more specific about the retailer? Are you talking about ammo or guns and parts? Dont buy it if you dont like the price. It is what it is. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted November 9, 2016 Midwest PX is a standup vendor here and I wouldn't consider that price change gouging at all. Never an issue with Ty and he's always been there to help when needed. I support this dude whenever I can (when I'm not buying used). 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 9, 2016 Manufacturer 's will cut supply. The demand that we've seen for 8 yrs will not be there shortly. Things will stabilize. Business owners have a right to make money or why keep the doors open? Price? Whatever the market will bare. I'm glad I held off on a lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted November 9, 2016 IMO, price gouging can only be on necessities, ie. food, shelter, clothing, etc. Magazines, ammo, holsters, etc, are controlled by supply and demand. If you don't like the prices, don't buy it. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk. I tend to agree with this. ^^^^ Neccessities and extraneous items are a little different. I'm not an expert on this sort of thing but maybe a retailer can comment. If your supply is or is expected to run short, you might increase the price a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted November 9, 2016 I predict 22LR will be plentiful and cheaper, again, soon! Stockpiling will trend downwards, no matter the opinion. When plentiful , people tend not to buy for stockpiling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 9, 2016 I wish I can get 22. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nnjrescue1 14 Posted November 9, 2016 Call them out bro! I love supporting local but they have to support us too! Who was it On another note - Thanks for making a "deal" and then totally drop off the face of the earth. Classy. I have placed two orders with two different MFG's both yesterday and today - Pricing seems to of remained the same as its been. Both vendors did say they were rather backlogged at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robot_hell 72 Posted November 9, 2016 Freedom Munitions is a solid seller. No price increases; mild discount yesterday and today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairless_Ape 76 Posted November 9, 2016 I only saw on retailer gouging yesterday, but they were only doing it on AK's. They quickly reverted prices back to normal in the pre-dawn hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nnjrescue1 14 Posted November 9, 2016 Freedom Munitions is a solid seller. No price increases; mild discount yesterday and today. I placed my first order with them yesterday. 5% off. Have you shot any of their reloads? I ordered some .223. to try out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted November 9, 2016 $30 difference on a serialized component of a firearm is price gouging? Really? Not really sure wth you are talking about, you and I know what expensive 3gun rigs can be for example, I'm not sure that is even %1 of the cost of my rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites