Mrs. Peel 7,156 Posted January 26, 2017 This is not going well Mrs. Peel. Obviously, pro 2A groups do not know about this and it is going nowhere due to the lack of dissemination! Yes, IMO, the problem with that system is that someone ("any Joe Schmo") posts a petition topic (they might be doing it from mom's basement)... and so no one even knows it's there. I also reached out to my ladies shooting group today via email - it's a local chapter of a national organization. Maybe they can pass the word? Hmmm... isn't there another much feistier 2A organization than NRA? GOA, I believe? I'll call them tomorrow too. Any other suggestions? I'm still very much a dabbler in this topic - don't know the landscape as well as some of the others on here. But, I can certainly pick up a phone and call if I know who to call! Again, I can see that this Whitehouse petition thing is best if it's pre-planned and with an organization behind it with a big membership... so they strategically open the petition and immediately release all of the pre-vetted marketing actions to put a push on for signatures. Just my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted January 26, 2017 This is not going well Mrs. Peel. Obviously, pro 2A groups do not know about this and it is going nowhere due to the lack of dissemination! I've passed it on or have seen it on all my Florida 2A groups. We're on it! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted January 26, 2017 I think the problem is with the email verification. Last president was a log in as I recall. This system is better imho but individuals need to Ck there email. Or we are sitting on butts thinking trump has it and everything is fine now? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted January 27, 2017 Maybe contact the Second Amendment Foundation, Ammoland, and The Firearm Blog. Already in discussion at The High Road. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,156 Posted January 27, 2017 Maybe contact the Second Amendment Foundation, Ammoland, and The Firearm Blog. Already in discussion at The High Road. That's good, thanks! I didn't even know about all these groups. :-) I just sent detailed emails off to SAF and Ammoland through their websites. I did not send to the Firearm Blog - because their tagline is "FirearmsNotPolitics" and I scanned through their articles and noticed there was NO 2A activism, but there were several political disclaimers. (I know some non-profits are precluding from political activity - I'm guessing that's the case here. It didn't seem to be the right forum). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyphessobrycon 0 Posted January 27, 2017 Signed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramnj 8 Posted January 27, 2017 Done on both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 27, 2017 I want it to pass but NJ will not allow it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted February 10, 2017 Bump. As of this morning, only 11,000 signatures left to acquire to reach the goal of 100K, with nine days remaining. If you haven't yet, please sign and encourage others to do so as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 10, 2017 Signed and verified Having been reading the discussion in the House Ways and Means Committee from 1934 http://jpfo.org/pdf03/National_Firearms_Act.pdf prior to the passage of the NFA, my blood pressure has soared. Read it at your own risk (and have your sublingual nitroglycerin handy) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthJersey 1 Posted February 11, 2017 https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-1986-hughes-amendment The 1986 Hughes amendment (as part of the Firearm Owners Protection Act) is an unconstitutional ban that limits law abiding citizens from owning fully automatic weapons that were manufactured past May 19, 1986. Select fire weapons are already very heavily regulated under the 1934 National Firearms Act which requires you to register your gun and submit a tax stamp. Since 1934 there have only been 2 known homicides committed with a legally owned fully automatic firearm and one of them was caused by a police officer. This law does nothing to prevent crime and it raises the price of legal automatic weapons to a ludicrous price due to supply and demand. Repealing the unconstitutional Hughes amendment will restore our second amendment rights that have been under attack for a very long time. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-nfa We the People wish to see the National Firearms Act of 1934 repealed in order to remove regulations on our 2nd amendment rights, increase national economic strength, and provide protection against threats to our national security. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 11, 2017 I'll worry about that one when I can no longer get arrested for walking past my driveway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 11, 2017 I'll worry about that one when I can no longer get arrested for walking past my driveway. Then here's one for you, someone started today. Won't update # of sigs until 150 signatures are validated by signer clicking link in their email. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-all-unconstitutional-gun-laws-state-new-jersey-laws-banning-mag-capacity-stocks-barrel-length-etc Repeal all unconstitutional gun laws in the state of New Jersey. Laws banning mag capacity, stocks, barrel length etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldguysrule649 397 Posted February 11, 2017 Then here's one for you, someone started today. Won't update # of sigs until 150 signatures are validated by signer clicking link in their email. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-all-unconstitutional-gun-laws-state-new-jersey-laws-banning-mag-capacity-stocks-barrel-length-etc Repeal all unconstitutional gun laws in the state of New Jersey. Laws banning mag capacity, stocks, barrel length etc I signed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted February 11, 2017 SUCCESS! As of this morning, the goal of 100K signatures has been exceeded by 500+. Now let's see by how much we can exceed it, further!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,321 Posted February 11, 2017 Signed. This one is going to be REALLY tough to get to 100,000! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 11, 2017 Signed it oggy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted February 11, 2017 Signed and verified Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted February 11, 2017 I signed this when it first came out. It only have 10,000 signed and I was a little worried. Glad people are stepping up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,433 Posted February 11, 2017 That petition is ridiculous. The federal government, especially the Executive branch, has no ability to actually repeal a state law. Influence? Sure. Mitigate (ala reciprocity), Probably. But they can't directly repeal. Words matter. You should know what you're talking about when you posting one of these. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,156 Posted February 11, 2017 Looks like we have 2 threads running on this: http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/84974-whitehousegov-petition-repeal-nfa/?hl=repeal I'm going to PM a moderator right now and ask them to lock the prior one. I'm also going to PM the OP (above) and ask him to amend his original post to remind people that it's a 2-step process to vote - you vote online and then verify through your email. Yeah, I know, no one on here is stupid... I just think that anyone who's hurried could miss that, and we want everyone's vote to count. Also, as someone else mentioned on the last thread... the 100,000 votes has been reached for the "Repeal the NFA" petition... the "Hughes Amendment" petition has over 16K - still a long way to go, but way higher than it was just 48 hours ago when I last looked at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 11, 2017 That petition is ridiculous. The federal government, especially the Executive branch, has no ability to actually repeal a state law. Influence? Sure. Mitigate (ala reciprocity), Probably. But they can't directly repeal. Words matter. You should know what you're talking about when you posting one of these. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You mean like slavery? Or denial of civil and constitutional rights? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,433 Posted February 11, 2017 You mean like slavery? Or denial of civil and constitutional rights?Neither of those things were "repealed" by the Executive branch. Unless you count Lincoln engaging in the Civil War "ending slavery", which might be an oversimplification. The courts can nullify or overturn a state law. I can't think of an example where the President can. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted February 11, 2017 Merged the 2 topics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 11, 2017 Neither of those things were "repealed" by the Executive branch. Unless you count Lincoln engaging in the Civil War "ending slavery", which might be an oversimplification. The courts can nullify or overturn a state law. I can't think of an example where the President can. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Soo I'm gonna guess you didn't sign. Cause, " you could have worded it better "Lol. This is Joisey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,433 Posted February 11, 2017 Soo I'm gonna guess you didn't sign. Cause, " you could have worded it better " Lol. This is Joisey Perhaps you could better explain how a petition to the Whitehouse would lead to a repeal of all of NJs anti-gun laws. It's like asking the dentist to fix my cable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2017 Perhaps you could better explain how a petition to the Whitehouse would lead to a repeal of all of NJs anti-gun laws. It's like asking the dentist to fix my cable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well nothing else is working. At the worst the Ag could look into our civil rights violations by this states legislators. American Citizens have rights afforded to them by the constitution, regardless of their zip code. And your dentist may be better than the cable company, at least with customer service.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,433 Posted February 12, 2017 And your dentist may be better than the cable company, at least with customer service.... At least the dentist only drills you in the front. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanman67 1 Posted February 12, 2017 how about starting a petition on repealing the unconstitutional Lautenberg amendment 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites