High Exposure 5,634 Posted March 7, 2017 It's light, it makes lots of holes in things, and I don't have to worry about what ammo it will feed. It's not perfect, but it serves its intended purpose well.This ^^^ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted March 7, 2017 And I don't have to worry about rolling around on the concrete with it or banging into something and scratching it. That's about it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 8, 2017 And I don't have to worry about rolling around on the concrete with it or banging into something and scratching it. That's about it. Let's be realistic, if your carry gun is a safe queen or is worth a lot of $$$ then you are carrying the wrong gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted March 8, 2017 I have a buddy that carried a $4100 Nighthawk 1911 off duty. When called out on it he jokingly says his life is worth $4101. I wouldn't do it when a Glock does everything I need and then some, but I get his point and support his decision. He likes the gun, it's reliable, and he shoots it like a house on fire. He trust his life and the lives of his loved ones to that pistol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 8, 2017 I have a buddy that carried a $4100 Nighthawk 1911 off duty. When called out on it he jokingly says his life is worth $4101. I wouldn't do it when a Glock does everything I need and then some, but I get his point and support his decision. He likes the gun, it's reliable, and he shoots it like a house on fire. He trust his life and the lives of his loved ones to that pistol. Agreed, and everyone has a different budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 8, 2017 I have a buddy that carried a $4100 Nighthawk 1911 off duty. When called out on it he jokingly says his life is worth $4101. I wouldn't do it when a Glock does everything I need and then some, but I get his point and support his decision. He likes the gun, it's reliable, and he shoots it like a house on fire. He trust his life and the lives of his loved ones to that pistol. Nighthawk is on my short list for 1911s..... just need the moola or I could sell something. Ummmmm, forget selling something. My nuts are broke already. [emoji43] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted March 8, 2017 The G19 is still unmatched for a pistol of that size, performance, and track record. The new CZ may be a viable competitor. Time will tell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted March 8, 2017 I do carry a different primary when I go to BBQs and when the Eagles are playing (for luck). Actually, I didn't do that last season My buddy upsold me a really nice holster for it so it has to see air once in a while. I wanted a POS but he knew I was a sucker for quality and eye candy. But Glock is EDC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted March 8, 2017 Nighthawk is on my short list for 1911s..... just need the moola or I could sell something. Ummmmm, forget selling something. My nuts are broke already. [emoji43] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro I sold a couple of guns and it made me feel bad...so I stopped and just moved them instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 8, 2017 I sold a couple of guns and it made me feel bad...so I stopped and just moved them instead. Running out of room and not buying another safe till I move. But really want a Nighthawk. So shall see. [emoji6] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 9, 2017 To sum this up. You first ask a Sig to prom. Regected? Go down the line. Eventually you'll get a glock..... Sig 229 elite stainless prom queen. Jus sayen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 9, 2017 To sum this up. You first ask a Sig to prom. Regected? Go down the line. Eventually you'll get a glock..... Sig 229 elite stainless prom queen. Jus sayen It's more like, "if you want to have the night of your life, you get a VP9. If you just want to get laid, you get a Glock." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted March 9, 2017 So much SIG love on this forum. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 9, 2017 So much SIG love on this forum." mom, meet my fiancé " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted March 9, 2017 Ask the NJSP how much they love the SIG 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted March 9, 2017 It's more like, "if you want to have the night of your life, you get a VP9. If you just want to get laid, you get a Glock." Dumb quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted March 9, 2017 Dumb quote well, it's a dumb thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 9, 2017 I speak the truth, Ruth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted March 9, 2017 Too bad you don't know what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted March 9, 2017 Btw speaking about the Gen 5 Glock 17M: https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/leaked-photos-gen-5-glock-17m/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted March 9, 2017 RTF 2/gen 4 type grip texture (just for you Ray) No finger bumps 1 pin design Adjustable LOP Ambi mag catch Ambi slide release Integral magwell Glock 34/35 muzzle profile A lot of changes here. Something else I was thinking - Glocks have been around for a long time. People have a lot of money and effort invested in Glock parts, mags, holsters, ancillary and supper gear... if they changed too much, a lot of that stuff would be useless. People would be pissed. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 9, 2017 Too bad you don't know what you're talking about.What have I said that isn't true? Or at least is debatable? I get it, you love Glocks. But some people don't. We are living in great times, you are not stuck with just Glock. We have a plethora of choices that do the same exact thing. This isn't like revolvers where it's basically S&W vs Ruger. There are dozens of options to choose from. You like Glocks? Great, have fun. I don't. I'll have fun too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 9, 2017 RTF 2/gen 4 type grip texture (just for you Ray) No finger bumps 1 pin design Adjustable LOP Ambi mag catch Ambi slide release Integral magwell Glock 34/35 muzzle profile A lot of changes here. Something else I was thinking - Glocks have been around for a long time. People have a lot of money and effort invested in Glock parts, mags, holsters, ancillary and supper gear... if they changed too much, a lot of that stuff would be useless. People would be pissed. Glock personnel aren't stupid. They may be slow to change, but they know the deal. I still wish they dropped the horrible sights and figured out how to NOT make their triggers feel crunchy and creepy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 9, 2017 If it's not broken, don't fix it. I'll get a glock eventually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted March 9, 2017 What have I said that isn't true? Or at least is debatable? First, you said Glocks are chosen by noobs who don't know what they are looking for. Complete nonsense. Glocks are chosen by many pros who absolutely know what features are desirable in a defensive use pistol. Is it perfect? No, but neither is any other pistol. Glocks are probably the easiest pistol to tailor to your needs though. Second, the comparison to Colt also makes no sense. If anything you are complimenting Glock. Colt still makes the best production level 1911, particularly for base guns that you can buy new for under $1000. Oh wait, I suppose you will say that Kimber and SIG make better 1911s. Also, what plethora of 9mm striker fired guns are there to choose from? I can count on less than 1 hand the striker fired 9mm guns that can hold a candle to the Glock 17/19 in terms of reliability, performance, size, and price. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 10, 2017 First, you said Glocks are chosen by noobs who don't know what they are looking for. Complete nonsense. Glocks are chosen by many pros who absolutely know what features are desirable in a defensive use pistol. Is it perfect? No, but neither is any other pistol. Glocks are probably the easiest pistol to tailor to your needs though. Second, the comparison to Colt also makes no sense. If anything you are complimenting Glock. Colt still makes the best production level 1911, particularly for base guns that you can buy new for under $1000. Oh wait, I suppose you will say that Kimber and SIG make better 1911s. Also, what plethora of 9mm striker fired guns are there to choose from? I can count on less than 1 hand the striker fired 9mm guns that can hold a candle to the Glock 17/19 in terms of reliability, performance, size, and price. Let me break this down. Many guys buy Glocks so they could fit in. The dude wants to be cool, and not seem like a total newb. Who wants to buy the wrong gun, or be the guy who doesn't fit in. So, they fall back on a basic gun. Which is a Glock. My comparison to Colt is actually close. Colt didn't change, and now they are irrelevant. I don't think Glock will fall like that any time soon, but they are slowly losing business to the other polymer guns in their class. As far as 1911s, I prefer Springfield Armory. And it seems Rock Island Armory is making the BEST 1911s for under a grand. I'll buy a RIA before I buy a Colt. But that's partly because I don't trust Colt anymore. And as far as guns that COMPARE to Glock 9mms, where do I begin? Springfield Armory XD, XDm, XD mod2 Walther PPQ, PPX, PPQ M2 S&W M&P, M&P 2.0 Ruger American Pistol FN, FNX H&K VP9 CZ P10c Sig P320 Remington RP9(although these seem to suck) Beretta APX (I think thats the #) And there are probably ones I'm forgeting, and ones on the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 10, 2017 Now it's jus silly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted March 10, 2017 U forgot SCCY 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted March 10, 2017 You guys are arguing with Ray Ray why exactly? He clearly has not shot most of the guns he lists, or tried to obtain spare parts, or tried to repair them with basic tools, etc etc. He is Ray Ray. He is the sort of person H&Ks marketing is aimed at. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites