remixer 1,645 Posted March 8, 2017 Steve did my X95 so, maybe not all are NJ legal. I know I was looking for a NJ model but none were around. Besides Steve said screw that useless brake. Lol. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro I do deter people from buying the compliant model. I feel IWI took the quick and easy way to make it compliant for all states include those which needed the extra length for legality. NJ does not need it and there is no point in a 4" muzzle brake on a rifle that is desired because its short 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 8, 2017 I do deter people from buying the compliant model. I feel IWI took the quick and easy way to make it compliant for all states include those which needed the extra length for legality. NJ does not need it and there is no point in a 4" muzzle brake on a rifle that is desired because its short Cause short rifles matter! [emoji12] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 8, 2017 Boy did this thread get hijacked. Sorry OP...[emoji848] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 8, 2017 It did but he got his question answered 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 8, 2017 Ok then!Wanna get pancakes? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave2 0 Posted March 10, 2017 Thank you all for the replies. It doesn't look like ill be purchasing this device, i'd rather not risk it. My search continues for a compliant muzzle device! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted March 10, 2017 I use these muzzle devices on all my 14.5" carbines. https://store.ar15.com/product.html?cat=108&pr=650 Inexpensive. Effective. Great solution. This is the long comp installed on a 14.5" Colt 6944 upper. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 10, 2017 https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGUNFIGHTER-Compensator-s/165.htm You are welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe 95 Posted March 11, 2017 Why a 6" muzzle device on a 14.5" barrel? Putting more weight past the tip no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 11, 2017 I've been using these - http://www.surefire.com/sfmb-556-1-2-28.html And attaching a Warden when I want to tame the side blast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted March 11, 2017 I've been using these - http://www.surefire.com/sfmb-556-1-2-28.html And attaching a Warden when I want to tame the side blast. Those have a lot of concussion.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 11, 2017 It's a rifle - They are loud. It's a brake - They are blasty. There is no free lunch. The less blasty, the less effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 11, 2017 It's a rifle - They are loud. It's a brake - They are blasty. There is no free lunch. The less blasty, the less effective. Wow! You busted my balls when I said that not too long ago. Hmmmm... [emoji848] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted March 11, 2017 You want blasty? Get a Jerry Miculek Brake, fire a few rounds at the range and ask the guy next to you, "Was that good for you, it was good for me!" See what he says. Betcha it ain't Merry Christmas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted March 11, 2017 It's a rifle - They are loud. It's a brake - They are blasty. There is no free lunch. The less blasty, the less effective. I was being a smart ass, not a sissy! Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 11, 2017 I was being a smart ass, not a sissy! LolI know brother Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 11, 2017 Wow! You busted my balls when I said that not too long ago. Hmmmm... [emoji848] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro You sure it was me John? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe 95 Posted March 11, 2017 I luv me sum Lantac Dragon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 11, 2017 You sure it was me John? Yup, when the thread was about loud blasts at a range and blast shields were discussed. [emoji57] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 12, 2017 The blast shield isn't for the range. The blast shield is for live fire work in a shoothouse or conducting team tactics. My stance has always been guns are loud. Shooting guns indoors at a range is louder. Team movement, CQB, FISHing is different. Muzzle blast is dangerous, to the point it is distracting at the least and can cause permanent injury or death in severe instances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,555 Posted March 12, 2017 You want blasty? Get a Jerry Miculek Brake, fire a few rounds at the range and ask the guy next to you, "Was that good for you, it was good for me!" See what he says. Betcha it ain't Merry Christmas! +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 12, 2017 The blast shield isn't for the range. The blast shield is for live fire work in a shoothouse or conducting team tactics. My stance has always been guns are loud. Shooting guns indoors at a range is louder. Team movement, CQB, FISHing is different. Muzzle blast is dangerous, to the point it is distracting at the least and can cause permanent injury or death In sever instances. I know that. But it happened to be part of the thread. Mentioned it for the thread reference. I said something to the affect, ranges are loud and to tell the complainers, get over it. Pretty much what you said. No matter. I'll let ya slide on this one. [emoji6] PS: I use it at the range when shooting my Tavor from the bench. Otherwise the brake throws everything off the bench. Standing, no issues without. Could care less who bitches about noise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 12, 2017 John, it was bothering me, I found the thread. Yeah it reads like that. Bad comms on my part. I agree with you - guns are loud - as everyone that shoots should know. Neighbors at the range should get over it when discussing ARs at an indoor range. In a class when in very close proximity to other shooters, team tactics, CQB, etc. or in an environment with lots of reflective surfaces nearby and unconventional positions i.e.: around vehicles and barricades, or a facility using more than one downrange direction - such as a shoothouse or pit - different story. You have to be cognizant of muzzle blast. That's where the Warden shines. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightfighter124 3 Posted March 12, 2017 And these? http://www.kineti-tech.com/angled-ported-slotted-muzzle-brake-style-barrel-shroud-s-w-ar-15-22/ Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 12, 2017 John, it was bothering me, I found the thread. Yeah it reads like that. Bad comms on my part. I agree with you - guns are loud - as everyone that shoots should know. Neighbors at the range should get over it when discussing ARs at an indoor range. In a class when in very close proximity to other shooters, team tactics, CQB, etc. or in an environment with lots of reflective surfaces nearby and unconventional positions i.e.: around vehicles and barricades, or a facility using more than one downrange direction - such as a shoothouse or pit - different story. You have to be cognizant of muzzle blast. That's where the Warden shines. They bitch at outdoor ranges too. Tuff nuts! Thats where a lot of them shine. Surefire stuff is a pain in the balls to find. I went with the Fortis because of it. Works just as good. Can't beat the combo price and functionality. https://www.rainierarms.com/fortis-control-shield-and-muzzle-brake-5-56-bundle-pack Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted March 13, 2017 I've been looking at one of those blast shields for my next build. Trying to decide between Surefire and Gemtech options. Trying to do a little research and see who makes better suppressors so when I eventually get out of NJ, Ill be able to pick one up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 13, 2017 I've been looking at one of those blast shields for my next build. Trying to decide between Surefire and Gemtech options. Trying to do a little research and see who makes better suppressors so when I eventually get out of NJ, Ill be able to pick one up. Not sure any of the shield models will accept cans. Surefire would. Not sure which models would. That is HEs dept. I researched them all and found the best options and bang for the buck, were Fortis. I believe they are also working closely with other companies so they can make compatible devices across brands. I have them on my X95. Surefires are a pain to find in stock. Otherwise I would have prob got them. Look at it this way, pinning does not mean they cannot be removed. Just not removed with improper tools. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted March 13, 2017 I will look into the Fortis mounts. The Gemtech and Surefire brakes both double as suppressor mounts. Not 100% sure but I think Surefire changes there mounting design every couple years so newer suppressors wont fit on older muzzle brakes. Gemtechs suppressor mounting design seems to remain the same so I'm leaning toward that one. Im not concerned about removing the brake after its pinned but if I can make the smarter decision now, I wont need to change it and waste $100+ on buying a new brake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrospaz9 10 Posted May 9, 2017 So all A2 flash hiders are illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, nitrospaz9 said: So all A2 flash hiders are illegal? Yes... if they are considered flash hiders or stated to reduce / suppress flash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites