Zeke 5,504 Posted March 16, 2017 Me, I'd go old school on the first one. You have 3 ar's I'm sure they are tactical. Old school Ak has something more iconic/dramatic than an AR 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GramGun79 226 Posted March 17, 2017 Ive heard to stay away from IO & Century...what is a good AK in an nice wood configuration. Looking to stay under 1k. Came across this.http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630125139 Good buy??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulnj088 9 Posted March 17, 2017 write to trump and tell him you want to buy a Saiga Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted March 17, 2017 Get an Arsenal SAM-7R or SLR-107. You are welcome. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted March 17, 2017 well i just lost that whole post darnit, let me try this again im not an expert but heres what i know arsenal would be considered your premium high end rifle saiga, vepr, wasr, npap are all gtg cantury is a mixed bag, the ras47 has some major issues, the trunions are soft and barels apear to be walking the psak47 has some major major issues irth qc, headspaces moving etc IO, general consensus is rifle sucks, owner is a deushenozzle, stay away DDI i personally dont know enough to coment, ive heard good and bad, last i heard they were in bed with PSA personaly i have a converted saiga and a wasr 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GramGun79 226 Posted March 17, 2017 Get an Arsenal SAM-7R or SLR-107. You are welcome. Got a guy to $900 for a used SAM7R with under 500 rounds down the pipe ...has some wear on the optic mount but other wise it looks flawless.... good deal or pass?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted March 17, 2017 Sounds decent. Ask him to throw in some ammo. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted March 18, 2017 i maybe looking for an SLR107FR myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GramGun79 226 Posted March 18, 2017 Sounds decent. Ask him to throw in some ammo. Ok found a better deal and purchased it....Brand New from a gun shop in Oregon. $1000 shipped. heading over to T1D as we type lol Just saw Atlantic raised their price on the SAM7 to juts over 1300 before shipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted March 18, 2017 You will be very happy with the SAM7. Quite possibly one of the best AK's you can buy right now and you got it at a good price. You'll be glad you went milled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted March 18, 2017 Well done! You will be pleased. I love mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GramGun79 226 Posted March 18, 2017 I want pics should be at Tier One next week some time...Zeke i think this is going tactoriginal...no wood but not going for an AR look...we will see when mikes done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 18, 2017 You messing with before it's virgin run? I thought that's part of the fun. " hmmm, I think it needs this" etc 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GramGun79 226 Posted March 18, 2017 You messing with before it's virgin run? I thought that's part of the fun. " hmmm, I think it needs this" etc lol Yes sir....i know im sick in the head i can never leave anything stock 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted March 18, 2017 I hate that negative "Tacticool" vibe. There is nothing wrong with attaching quality kit to a rifle in order to make it more capable for the task you have it for. For me, optic, white light, and sling are minimum mandatory equipment for my intended use for an AR/AK type rifle. My rifles are not tactical or "Tacticool". They are more capable than they were stock. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 18, 2017 They are more capable than they were stock. You lost me right here. Optics, lasers, lights and such do NOT make it more capable. Training does. The "Add ons" enhance your abilities, not make them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted March 18, 2017 Incorrect. Try this - from standing get into rollover pone and hit an 8" circle at 50 yards 3 times in less than 4 seconds with iron sights and no light in the dark. Then do it with a T1 optic and a 500lumen white light. Then tell me which rifle is more capable. Personal Ability =/= Equipment Capabilities Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 18, 2017 Incorrect. Try this - from standing get into rollover pone and hit an 8" circle at 50 yards 3 times in less than 4 seconds with iron sights and no light in the dark. Then do it with a T1 optic and a 500lumen white light. Then tell me which rifle is more capable. Personal Ability =/= Equipment Capabilities I know guys who can't hit ANYTHING with optics or a red dot.His name is Alex, and he is a "CageFighter" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 18, 2017 lol Yes sir....i know im sick in the head i can never leave anything stockThat's kool.I sorta do the same with race bikes. My sig, I never touched. The j frame fully needed wood grips. Still want pics. Btw it's gonna sily here quickly 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted March 18, 2017 I know guys who can't hit ANYTHING with optics or a red dot. That's not the point. Don't confuse personal ability with equipment capabilities. Set up 3 targets at 200 yards. Relatively easy shot, one we can all accomplish with an AR. 1 target is a shoot and 2 are no-shoot. Hit only the shoot target 2 times in the A-zone. Try it once with iron sights and again with a 4-10x magnified optic. You are able to hit any target at 200 yards - this is ability You aren't able to hit the correct target without the right equipment - this is capability. Without the capability to accomplish the task in the first place, you will never be able to succeed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 18, 2017 Gram can orange cloud the range pretty good. I'm sure he'll be fine 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 18, 2017 High Exposure, I'm totally kidding. I agree with your assessment. All my defensive guns have lights and all rifles wear lights and either a scope or a red dot. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 18, 2017 Pfft, only mall ninjas do dat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GramGun79 226 Posted March 18, 2017 Gram can orange cloud the range pretty good. I'm sure he'll be fine Now I'm blushing....beginners luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 18, 2017 Full blown horseshit! " oh, it's been a while " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted March 18, 2017 I put some Magpul furniture on my WASR. Awesome. Get one. You wont regret it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted March 18, 2017 Arsenal FTW. With PK-A Venezuela, Magpul AFG, Surefire light, and BFG AK sling. Will SBR this as soon as I move out of the state next year after the election... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites