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well i just lost that whole post darnit, let me try this again

 

im not an expert but heres what i know

 

arsenal would be considered your premium high end rifle

saiga, vepr, wasr, npap are all gtg

 

cantury is a mixed bag, the ras47 has some major issues, the trunions are soft and barels apear to be walking

the psak47 has some major major issues irth qc, headspaces moving etc

 

IO, general consensus is rifle sucks, owner is a deushenozzle, stay away

 

DDI i personally dont know enough to coment, ive heard good and bad, last i heard they were in bed with PSA

 

personaly i have a converted saiga and a wasr

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Sounds decent. Ask him to throw in some ammo.

Ok found a better deal and purchased it....Brand New from a gun shop in Oregon. $1000 shipped. heading over to T1D as we type lol 

Just saw Atlantic raised their price on the SAM7 to juts over 1300 before shipping.

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I hate that negative "Tacticool" vibe. There is nothing wrong with attaching quality kit to a rifle in order to make it more capable for the task you have it for.

 

For me, optic, white light, and sling are minimum mandatory equipment for my intended use for an AR/AK type rifle.

 

My rifles are not tactical or "Tacticool". They are more capable than they were stock.

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They are more capable than they were stock.

You lost me right here. Optics, lasers, lights and such do NOT make it more capable. Training does. The "Add ons" enhance your abilities, not make them.

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Incorrect.

 

Try this - from standing get into rollover pone and hit an 8" circle at 50 yards 3 times in less than 4 seconds with iron sights and no light in the dark.

 

Then do it with a T1 optic and a 500lumen white light.

 

Then tell me which rifle is more capable.

 

Personal Ability =/= Equipment Capabilities

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Incorrect.

 

Try this - from standing get into rollover pone and hit an 8" circle at 50 yards 3 times in less than 4 seconds with iron sights and no light in the dark.

 

Then do it with a T1 optic and a 500lumen white light.

 

Then tell me which rifle is more capable.

 

Personal Ability =/= Equipment Capabilities

I know guys who can't hit ANYTHING with optics or a red dot.

His name is Alex, and he is a "CageFighter"

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lol Yes sir....i know im sick in the head i can never leave anything stock

That's kool.

I sorta do the same with race bikes. My sig, I never touched. The j frame fully needed wood grips. Still want pics. Btw it's gonna sily here quickly

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I know guys who can't hit ANYTHING with optics or a red dot.

That's not the point. Don't confuse personal ability with equipment capabilities.

 

Set up 3 targets at 200 yards. Relatively easy shot, one we can all accomplish with an AR. 1 target is a shoot and 2 are no-shoot. Hit only the shoot target 2 times in the A-zone.

 

Try it once with iron sights and again with a 4-10x magnified optic.

 

You are able to hit any target at 200 yards - this is ability

 

You aren't able to hit the correct target without the right equipment - this is capability.

 

Without the capability to accomplish the task in the first place, you will never be able to succeed.

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