Federal Judge Blocks California’s Magazine Ban

[Indianajonze 379]

some common sense in a very liberal part of the country. hope is NEVER lost...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/06/johannes-paulsen/breaking-federal-judge-blocks-californias-magazine-ban/

money shot:

In the matter of Duncan v. Becerra, the San Diego-based judge said the law banning possession of the magazines would mean “hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of otherwise law-abiding citizens will have an untenable choice: become an outlaw or dispossess one’s self of lawfully acquired property.” He further held that the law “amounts to the government taking people’s private property without compensation.”

 

second big point:

According to Michel, however, no one was giving up their property. “We were looking at a massive display of civil disobedience. No one was turning these things in.”

 

shades of nj, if they ever try such nonsense here...

[Krdshrk 3,877]

Good good - we can use that as fuel against the coming tide.

[Alex V 99]

Just saw this on Evan Nappen's FB page. Never thought this would happen. Pleasantly surprised. This may help us Ina year when Trenton passes a 5 round magazine limit. 

[voyager9 3,434]

While a good, and surprising decision it is just a temporary injunction. This will go to the 9th. 

[Zeke 5,504]

Winning 

 

slowly. Long hike.

1 minute ago, voyager9 said:

While a good, and surprising decision it is just a temporary injunction. This will go to the 9th. 

And den?

[Indianajonze 379]

the merits of the argument are very sound. it's wholesale confiscation of legally acquired private property, which is what i've been saying for some time now. not legal in any corner of this country, liberal or conservative

[voyager9 3,434]

1 minute ago, Zeke said:

Winning 

 

slowly. Long hike.

And den?

Pessimisticly?  They overrule it in a heartbeat where it then gets appealed to SCOTUS where they deny Cert. 

optimistically? They still overrule it but this time in the appeal to SCOTUS they head Puruta's desent and decide to take the case where it is struck down. 

[Zeke 5,504]

@Indianajonze

you keep this going! Me like

Time to un break the broken.

[voyager9 3,434]

1 minute ago, Indianajonze said:

the merits of the argument are very sound. it's wholesale confiscation of legally acquired private property, which is what i've been saying for some time now. not legal in any corner of this country, liberal or conservative

Wasn't NJs 15-round ban already found to be acceptable?  Need more  

Now, if you combine the CA challenge with NY's SAFE-Act challenge?  Maybe. 

[Zeke 5,504]

1 minute ago, voyager9 said:

Pessimisticly?  They overrule it in a heartbeat where it then gets appealed to SCOTUS where they deny Cert. 

optimistically? They still overrule it but this time in the appeal to SCOTUS they head Puruta's desent and decide to take the case where it is struck down. 

Peruta 

jus sayen 

[Indianajonze 379]

well at some point it's going to end up like the dozens of federal gay marriage lawsuits, it has to be settled. the supreme court will be compelled to weigh in on the 2nd amendment and gun rights in this country and settle it once and for all. concealed carry, mag limits, arbitrary definitions of "assault rifle" all need to be addressed sooner or later...

[voyager9 3,434]

Just now, Zeke said:

Peruta 

jus sayen 

True  

by the time this case gets to SCOTUS hopefully Ginsburg has retired too

 

[Zeke 5,504]

3 minutes ago, Indianajonze said:

well at some point it's going to end up like the dozens of federal gay marriage lawsuits, it has to be settled. the supreme court will be compelled to weigh in on the 2nd amendment and gun rights in this country and settle it once and for all. concealed carry, mag limits, arbitrary definitions of "assault rifle" all need to be addressed sooner or later...

This will happen. 

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

43 minutes ago, voyager9 said:

True  

by the time this case gets to SCOTUS hopefully Ginsburg has retired too died.

 

Ruthie is wayyy too stubborn to ever retire.

I predict she will die in her seat at the bench and they'll only notice she's gone two days later.

[SuperSixOne 4]

Federal Judge blocks high capacity magazine law in CA.

 

https://apnews.com/9b92b4952e524027bbd7dd86c9545053

 

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[Zeke 5,504]

2 minutes ago, njJoniGuy said:

Ruthie is wayyy too stubborn to ever retire.

I predict she will die in her seat at the bench and they'll only notice she's gone two days later.

Crypt keeper imagery 

[bhunted 887]

Hell, I just read somewhere she still does 20 push ups a day.

In any event, I'm not giving up crap. Wasn't then, still ain't. Can't get much easier than my rules.


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[gleninjersey 2,139]

8 hours ago, Zeke said:

Winning 

AND still not tired of it!

[Howard 538]

I sure hope our trade groups, perhaps some lawyers like Nappen and others, have a similar suit printed up and waiting for January of next year so it can be filed on the same date Trenton tries to screw us.  Simultaneously should be a class action against the state for an illegal taking requiring them to buy back all mags over 10 rounds at the greater of fair market value or what was paid for them.

[siderman 1,137]

I dont even like the talk of compensation, it implies that as long as we get re-imbursed its ok to take away the mags aka a forced buy back. Australia ring a bell?

[Howard 538]

I understand your thinking, but in the event of a ban it seems to be an illegal taking to require you turn in your mags or sell them at a loss out of state.  We should be ready if all else fails to DEMAND fair and just compensation.  Actually such a demand up front could make the cost of implementing so onerous that they would not dare when the public sees how much it will cost to do nothing of value.

[monmouth 19]

6 hours ago, siderman said:

I dont even like the talk of compensation, it implies that as long as we get re-imbursed its ok to take away the mags aka a forced buy back. Australia ring a bell?

I paid $99.95 per mag during 2013-2014 and have 5,000 in storage. 

[Walt of Destiny 412]

We shouldn't capitulate to some random figure for our mags in exchange for our 2nd amendment. They aren't paying for mags, you know, they're paying for your subservience. That's a real slippery slope. 

[sroc112 24]

Anyone participating in the gun buyback later this month? Smh...

 

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/06/nj_told_hold_gun_buybacks_in_3_cities_next_month.html

 

[BlueLineFish 615]

I'm contemplating walking the line to see if anything is good there

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

Participating?

Selling, NO !

Buying, maybe.

I may go to the Camden buyback with a supply of COEs and look for vintage military rifles like '03 Springfields and M1 Garands coming in from the parking lot before they reach the steps of the church.

The buyback price is $100 and bargains might be had for even double that price.

[fatty 241]

I'd like to do that too.  finding a decent M1 garand would be sweet

[Sevenshot 98]

Is being a buyer at the buyback a legit thing? I'm seriously contemplating it unless there is some known harassment from the organizers/police. 

[BlueLineFish 615]

I have a feeling the organizers wouldn't like people buying firearms from people on line. It would lower their numbers. I'm sure some intimidation tactics may be used to try and scare buyers off. We all know with COE's it would be perfectly legal

[PK90 3,570]

Show up and start taking pictures of people in line, then watch them scatter.

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