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An acquaintance of mine sent me the below email asking about a "3 FFL". I really have no idea about interstate transfers so I was hoping that one of you may know the answer. Thanks for any help.

 

Hi:

Would you mind answering a question? I am selling a 1952 Swiss military rifle on gunbroker. It was made in 1952 making it 65 years old. It carries a 5 or 6 round clip and is bolt action. I have an interested person who has a "3 FFL"  which is a Curios and Relics permit provided by ATF. . Can I sell this rifle to this guy. He lives out west.
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Shipper would need a copy of the C&R and needs to check that

the lic is valid at time of transfer.

Shipper can ship directly to C&R as long as the State in which the C&R

resides allows it. As an example - NJ does not recognise a C&R so someone

in TX. cannot ship it to a C&R in NJ.

Just need to dot the i's & cross the t's before shipping it out..................

Good Luck! 

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Shipper would need a copy of the C&R and needs to check that

the lic is valid at time of transfer.

Shipper can ship directly to C&R as long as the State in which the C&R

resides allows it. As an example - NJ does not recognise a C&R so someone

in TX. cannot ship it to a C&R in NJ.

Just need to dot the i's & cross the t's before shipping it out..................

Good Luck! 

 

What do you propose on checking other than the expiration date on their FFL03? Swiss K31 can be shipped by seller direct to FFL03. No need for a FFL01.

 

Only NJ and HI don't fully recognize FFL03.

 

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1 minute ago, capt14k said:

 


What do you propose on checking other than the expiration date on their FFL03? Swiss K31 can be shipped by seller direct to FFL03. No need for a FFL01

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That the FFL is valid - not expired or a forgery

There are many faked FFL's floating around the internet.......

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That the FFL is valid - not expired or a forgery

There are many faked FFL's floating around the internet.......

 

FFL03 can not be searched online like FFL01. I'm on many forums and actively collect firearms. I've never heard any mention of a forged FFL03. Can you provide link?

 

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12 minutes ago, capt14k said:

 

FFL03 can not be searched online like FFL01. I'm on many forums and actively collect firearms. I've never heard any mention of a forged FFL03. Can you provide link?

 

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It is not just 03's - there are forged FFL's of different classes

Periodicly you may see something in a forum thread, but mostly it

is discussed between dealers & ATF.

Major reason there is the FFL E-Z check, to help validate licensees 

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It is not just 03's - there are forged FFL's of different classes
Periodicly you may see something in a forum thread, but mostly it
is discussed between dealers & ATF.
Major reason there is the FFL E-Z check, to help validate licensees 


I can understand FFL01 or even 6,7, 9, and 10 but C&R I've never heard such an issue with.

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Just now, capt14k said:

 


I can understand FFL01 or even 6,7, 9, and 10 but C&R I've never heard such an issue with.

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Not saying it is an every day thing, it isn't but one needs to be diligent when shipping

firearms. In the past 6 years I've seen 2 forged class 1's and 2-3 class 3's

The class 3 is easier for scammers because FFL E-Z check won't verify a 3, and most people

won't bother to call the ATF, so I would imagine the 3 is used most often (but that is my guess).

 

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These days you have to - too many scammers!

Paul - you remember that guy a few years back that was using a faked 03

to bring a Ruger .22 w/ can into NJ? That guy was in Manchester..........

 

Any chance his name was ARKADIUSZ SEK. He likes to fake things, and lives in Manchester.

 

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Can't say that I know that name........

 

 

He was the guy caught faking a German Captured wz29. Bought a scrubbed SCW wz29 and stamped away with Radom Roll Stamp and waffenampts. Almost made a $1,300 profit on the first one and was on his way to making a nice profit on the second one. Luckily he was caught before the first buyer sent payment and before the second auction ended.

 

That's one good thing about Gunbroker and the internet. Makes it very easy to catch scumbags who buy something as one thing and then try and sell it as another.

 

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Couple of months ago I almost shipped a firearm to a FFL near Chicago. Seemingly genuine transaction. The guy even sent me a FFL copy and his IL FOID. I called the FFL, he never heard of the guy. The address on FOID is not valid on any maps.

Not exactly FFL forgery, but lot of things can go wrong.  

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