mintbore 15 Posted July 13, 2017 Good morning, I recently purchased a new receiver from the manufacturer. I specifically put my FFL's address to ship it to. They, instead sent it directly to my home. Can I simply bring it to my FFL to book and register? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted July 13, 2017 NO. Send it back and make sure they send it to the FFLSent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted July 13, 2017 or.....nevermind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 13, 2017 What type of receiver are you talking about? An AR upper? A lower? Something else? If it's a AR upper that's fine. It only gun parts. There is no registration of long guns in NJ. If it's serial numbered it needs to go through a FFL not matter if it's a long gun or handgun. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mintbore 15 Posted July 13, 2017 Not an upper....serial numbered 10/22 receiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted July 13, 2017 That should have gone to a FFL. A manufacturer should have known better. I'd call them for a return label. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted July 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, GRIZ said: That should have gone to a FFL. A manufacturer should have known better. I'd call them for a return label. THIS. OP - and don't worry, don't take it to FFL etc. Just call the manufacturer and they will deal with it. Stuff happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mintbore 15 Posted July 13, 2017 Well, Luckily got in touch with them to recall the package and send it to FFL... Not gonna mess with the Peoples Republik of NJ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted July 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, mintbore said: Well, Luckily got in touch with them to recall the package and send it to FFL... Not gonna mess with the Peoples Republik of NJ It's Federal 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mintbore 15 Posted August 18, 2017 On 7/27/2017 at 10:51 PM, Indianajonze said: and where was this from? i believe i'd like to order some lowers direct from a manufacturer... This was a 10/22 receiver from Kidd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted August 18, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 0:08 PM, Zeke said: It's Federal Also state. That's why CMP can't send your Garand to your door anymore. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1563621 388 Posted August 21, 2017 GRIZ. CMP cannot send to your door anymore for 2 reasons. 1-State wants your NICS fee! 2-State found out CMP was sending that illegal m1 carbine direct. state wanted CMP to divulge all buyers of carbines, CMP refused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 21, 2017 I'm under the impression something like this doesn't have to come from an FFL, just be shipped to an FFL. Can an FFL chime in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted August 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, 1563621 said: GRIZ. CMP cannot send to your door anymore for 2 reasons. 1-State wants your NICS fee! 2-State found out CMP was sending that illegal m1 carbine direct. state wanted CMP to divulge all buyers of carbines, CMP refused. IIRC, when this went on the COO of CMP gave this explanation gave this explanation on the CMP Forum. The NJAG said NJ law says all firearms transfers have to be face to face. Sending your rifle to your front door circumvented this. I'm sure being a Federal entity CMP could have fought this and won. I'm sure some carbines got sent to NJ. The NJ AG could ask for the buyers but had no way to get that info if CMP didn't want to volunteer it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted August 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, BobA said: I'm under the impression something like this doesn't have to come from an FFL, just be shipped to an FFL. Can an FFL chime in here? A receiver is a firearm. It can't be shipped to you directly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 21, 2017 I understand that. And I apologize if my question was worded incorrectly. I realize that the recipient of a firearm shipped from out of state must be an FFL. But my question was must the shipper also be an FFL? It's my impression that any Joe Blow can ship to NJ but only an FFL can receive the shipment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68chris 20 Posted August 21, 2017 Is the OP breaking any laws just keeping his item? Once it is in his house isnt he protected under the home exemption? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, BobA said: I'm under the impression something like this doesn't have to come from an FFL, just be shipped to an FFL. Can an FFL chime in here? You are correct. It must be shipped TO an FFL. Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 21, 2017 Just now, PeteF said: You are correct. It must be shipped TO an FFL. Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 22, 2017 35 minutes ago, PeteF said: You are correct. It must be shipped TO an FFL. Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted August 22, 2017 2 hours ago, PeteF said: You are correct. It must be shipped TO an FFL. Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL. This is correct. Thing is if you ship a handgun FedEx or UPS they make you ship it overnight. Usually cheaper to take a handgun to a FFL as he can charge you a transfer fee and ship it priority mail for a lot less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakridgefirearms 224 Posted August 25, 2017 On 8/21/2017 at 4:52 PM, GRIZ said: IIRC, when this went on the COO of CMP gave this explanation gave this explanation on the CMP Forum. The NJAG said NJ law says all firearms transfers have to be face to face. Sending your rifle to your front door circumvented this. I'm sure being a Federal entity CMP could have fought this and won. I'm sure some carbines got sent to NJ. The NJ AG could ask for the buyers but had no way to get that info if CMP didn't want to volunteer it. From what I recall, Paula Dow (Christie's first AG) "reinterpreted" our laws to say that an FPID card must be presented in person in order to buy a firearm (non handgun), so in her opinion it was illegal to ship direct to the buyer. This is nonsense, the law only says the buyer must have and "exhibit" their FPID card. I think the CMP didn't want to have a couple of NJ Senators trying to revisit Bill Clinton's ambition to put them out of business, so they agreed to ship only to dealers.; 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted August 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, Oakridgefirearms said: From what I recall, Paula Dow (Christie's first AG) "reinterpreted" our laws to say that an FPID card must be presented in person in order to buy a firearm (non handgun), so in her opinion it was illegal to ship direct to the buyer. This is nonsense, the law only says the buyer must have and "exhibit" their FPID card. I think the CMP didn't want to have a couple of NJ Senators trying to revisit Bill Clinton's ambition to put them out of business, so they agreed to ship only to dealers.; I remember the NJ AG saying something about "in person" or "face to face". It would seem the CMP's requirement to send a copy of your NJFID would suffice to meet the requirement of "exhibit". I can understand CMP's reluctance to argue this and keep off Clinton's radar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites