Registration question

[mintbore 15]

Good morning,

I recently purchased a new receiver from the manufacturer. I specifically put my FFL's address to ship it to. They, instead sent it directly to my home. Can I simply bring it to my FFL to book and register?

Thanks

[Purple Patrick 638]

NO. Send it back and make sure they send it to the FFL

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[siderman 1,137]

or.....nevermind.

[GRIZ 3,369]

What type of receiver are you talking about?  An AR upper? A lower? Something else?

If it's a AR upper that's fine.  It only gun parts.  There is no registration of long guns in NJ.  If it's serial numbered it needs to go through a FFL not matter if it's a long gun or handgun.

[mintbore 15]

Not an upper....serial numbered 10/22 receiver

[GRIZ 3,369]

That should have gone to a FFL.  A manufacturer should have known better.  I'd call them for a return label.

[jackandjill 683]

6 minutes ago, GRIZ said:

That should have gone to a FFL.  A manufacturer should have known better.  I'd call them for a return label.

THIS.    OP - and don't worry, don't take it to FFL etc. Just call the manufacturer and they will deal with it.  Stuff happens. 

[mintbore 15]

Well, Luckily got in touch with them to recall the package and send it to FFL... Not gonna mess with the Peoples Republik of NJ

[Zeke 5,504]

26 minutes ago, mintbore said:

Well, Luckily got in touch with them to recall the package and send it to FFL... Not gonna mess with the Peoples Republik of NJ

It's Federal 

[Indianajonze 379]

nm

[mintbore 15]

On ‎7‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 10:51 PM, Indianajonze said:

and where was this from? i believe i'd like to order some lowers direct from a manufacturer...

This was a 10/22 receiver from Kidd

[GRIZ 3,369]

On 7/13/2017 at 0:08 PM, Zeke said:

It's Federal 

Also state.  That's why CMP can't send your Garand to your door anymore.

[1563621 388]

GRIZ. CMP cannot send to your door anymore for 2 reasons.

1-State wants your NICS fee!

2-State found out CMP was sending that illegal m1 carbine direct.

state wanted CMP to divulge all buyers of carbines, CMP refused.

[BobA 1,235]

I'm under the impression something like this doesn't have to come from an FFL, just be shipped to an FFL.   Can an FFL chime in here?

[GRIZ 3,369]

34 minutes ago, 1563621 said:

GRIZ. CMP cannot send to your door anymore for 2 reasons.

1-State wants your NICS fee!

2-State found out CMP was sending that illegal m1 carbine direct.

state wanted CMP to divulge all buyers of carbines, CMP refused.

IIRC, when this went on the COO of CMP gave this explanation gave this explanation on the CMP Forum.

The NJAG said NJ law says all firearms transfers have to be face to face. Sending your rifle to your front door circumvented this.  I'm sure being a Federal entity CMP could have fought this and won.  

I'm sure some carbines got sent to NJ. The NJ AG could ask for the buyers but had no way to get that info if CMP didn't want to volunteer it.

[GRIZ 3,369]

27 minutes ago, BobA said:

I'm under the impression something like this doesn't have to come from an FFL, just be shipped to an FFL.   Can an FFL chime in here?

A receiver is a firearm.  It can't be shipped to you directly.

[BobA 1,235]

I understand that.  And I apologize if my question was worded incorrectly.  I realize that the recipient of a firearm shipped from out of state must be an FFL.  But my question was must the shipper also be an FFL?  It's my impression that any Joe Blow can ship to NJ but only an FFL can receive the shipment. 

[68chris 20]

Is the OP breaking any laws just keeping his item?

Once it is in his house isnt he protected under the home exemption?

[PeteF 1,044]

3 hours ago, BobA said:

I'm under the impression something like this doesn't have to come from an FFL, just be shipped to an FFL.   Can an FFL chime in here?

You are correct.  It must be shipped TO an FFL.   Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL.

[BobA 1,235]

Just now, PeteF said:

You are correct.  It must be shipped TO an FFL.   Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL.

Thanks. 

[BobA 1,235]

35 minutes ago, PeteF said:

You are correct.  It must be shipped TO an FFL.   Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL.

Thanks.

[GRIZ 3,369]

2 hours ago, PeteF said:

You are correct.  It must be shipped TO an FFL.   Trick is some FFLs will not accept firearms from a non FFL.

This is correct.

Thing is if you ship a handgun FedEx or UPS they make you ship it overnight.  Usually cheaper to take a handgun to a FFL as he can charge you a transfer fee and ship it priority mail for a lot less.

[Oakridgefirearms 224]

On 8/21/2017 at 4:52 PM, GRIZ said:

IIRC, when this went on the COO of CMP gave this explanation gave this explanation on the CMP Forum.

The NJAG said NJ law says all firearms transfers have to be face to face. Sending your rifle to your front door circumvented this.  I'm sure being a Federal entity CMP could have fought this and won.  

I'm sure some carbines got sent to NJ. The NJ AG could ask for the buyers but had no way to get that info if CMP didn't want to volunteer it.

From what I recall, Paula Dow (Christie's first AG) "reinterpreted" our laws to say that an FPID card must be presented in person in order to buy a firearm (non handgun), so in her opinion it was illegal to ship direct to the buyer. This is nonsense, the law only says the buyer must have and "exhibit" their FPID card. I think the CMP didn't want to have a couple of NJ Senators trying to revisit Bill Clinton's ambition to put them out of business, so they agreed to ship only to dealers.;

[GRIZ 3,369]

49 minutes ago, Oakridgefirearms said:

From what I recall, Paula Dow (Christie's first AG) "reinterpreted" our laws to say that an FPID card must be presented in person in order to buy a firearm (non handgun), so in her opinion it was illegal to ship direct to the buyer. This is nonsense, the law only says the buyer must have and "exhibit" their FPID card. I think the CMP didn't want to have a couple of NJ Senators trying to revisit Bill Clinton's ambition to put them out of business, so they agreed to ship only to dealers.;

I remember the NJ AG saying something about "in person" or "face to face".

It would seem  the CMP's requirement to send a copy of your NJFID would suffice to meet the requirement of "exhibit".

I can understand CMP's reluctance to argue this and keep off Clinton's radar.