Parker 213 Posted July 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, maintenanceguy said: Somebody please call the number and ask: 1) Will they be paying for bb guns or pellet guns? 2) Is there some sort of legal protection for those who will be transporting illegally, outside of the exemptions, to get their guns to the buyback? 3) If someone shows up at the buyback with a gun and decides not to accept the offer made, will they be able to take their firearm away with them - no questions asked. My employer depends heavily on state funding and I was told a while ago to stop harassing Trenton. Funny how they chose churches as the drop-off locations. Quasimodo would approve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted July 24, 2017 Why are you people supporting this? The money given out and what the event costs the jurisdiction is coming from your taxes. Is a few hundred bucks worth the anti-gun publicity that will come from this? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJGF 375 Posted July 24, 2017 So no questions asked...but...can they photo your license plate or take your picture? I guess one could get $120 for their handgun or walk around the block and get ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louu 399 Posted July 24, 2017 How about we just go to work that day, make real money and let the Crack heads get their hundred bucks. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 24, 2017 I just called. They ARE NOT paying for BB or pellet guns, according to the woman that answered.It would be nice if a couple others called to see if they got the same answer.Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted July 24, 2017 that's surprising considering they are 'rifle's/firearms' under our laws thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted July 24, 2017 this thread makes my head hurt.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 24, 2017 that's surprising considering they are 'rifle's under our laws thanksThat's what puzzled me. Another reason I was hoping someone else would call.Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 24, 2017 this thread makes my head hurt....Seriously? What's the issue? It bothers you that much, but 1) you managed to read the thread and 2) respond with absolutely nothing that was beneficial to the thread.What's your concern?Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted July 24, 2017 1 i dont by that its funded from sezures, those seasures were funded by out taxes, at a rate that no doubt far exedes the return 2 yall talking about turning in bb guns and other ways to scam the suystem, yet everyone here cries when people scam all the other democrat systems 3 if your that fn broke that you need tyhe few bills you can get then you have far bigger problems then scaming a gun buy back 4 every single thing that turns up at this thing, even it its a frickin poptart bit in the shape of a gun can and will be used against us, repeditively, and theyll pad the numbers and lie about the stats anyway, why fuel the fire 5 cant get you people to do shit for your rights here, but youll make calls for this? seriously? need i go on? or would you have rather me just outright called anyone that suports or is entertaining this an idiot in the first post, sorry for curbing my tongue 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 24, 2017 I never once suggested or advocated scamming the system. In my particular case, not that I owe you or anyone else an explanation, I purchased a couple pellet guns many years ago, prior to ever knowing a handgun permit was required to legally own them in NJ. I have no use for them and have no desire to get permits for them.When I learned of the buyback, I thought it could solve my issue in getting rid of these and putting some coin in my pocket while doing so.I can't speak for others and I too despise anyone that would purposely attempt to scam the system.Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted July 24, 2017 34 minutes ago, SuRrEaLNJ said: 1 i dont by that its funded from sezures, those seasures were funded by out taxes, at a rate that no doubt far exedes the return 2 yall talking about turning in bb guns and other ways to scam the suystem, yet everyone here cries when people scam all the other democrat systems 3 if your that fn broke that you need tyhe few bills you can get then you have far bigger problems then scaming a gun buy back 4 every single thing that turns up at this thing, even it its a frickin poptart bit in the shape of a gun can and will be used against us, repeditively, and theyll pad the numbers and lie about the stats anyway, why fuel the fire 5 cant get you people to do shit for your rights here, but youll make calls for this? seriously? need i go on? or would you have rather me just outright called anyone that suports or is entertaining this an idiot in the first post, sorry for curbing my tongue slow down cupcake I don't need the money, I'd get rid of the bb guns for another reason What we do or don't do means little to you. If you can't play nice, take your $hit and go home you want action, you want to stop 'talking' then grab a gun with like minded people and 'march' on Trenton. Last time we had over 10k there in the 90s and it didn't do anything. you need MEANINGFUL action and resolve coupled with civil disobedience. Unless you are willing to do that, pipe down and stop trying to be a tough guy to all the rest, was a good thread 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted July 24, 2017 3 hours ago, this_is_nascar said: I never once suggested or advocated scamming the system. In my particular case, not that I owe you or anyone else an explanation, I purchased a couple pellet guns many years ago, prior to ever knowing a handgun permit was required to legally own them in NJ. I have no use for them and have no desire to get permits for them. When I learned of the buyback, I thought it could solve my issue in getting rid of these and putting some coin in my pocket while doing so. I can't speak for others and I too despise anyone that would purposely attempt to scam the system. Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk You don't need a permit for something you already own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 24, 2017 You don't need a permit for something you already own.Thanks, but I really can't get into any more about it.Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted July 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Parker said: Funny how they chose churches as the drop-off locations. Quasimodo would approve. They don't charge them for the use of space. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slab Sides 20 Posted July 25, 2017 14 hours ago, sota said: You don't need a permit for something you already own. You need a paper trail for pistols. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted July 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Slab Sides said: You need a paper trail for pistols. No "paper trail" needed for pistols legally acquired outside of NJ. You can move to NJ with your collection of pistols that you acquired while a resident of another state and continue to legally possess them in NJ without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. You can go to Cabela's in another state, buy a bb pistol or a black powder pistol (not regulated in other states but considered handguns in NJ), bring them back into NJ and legally possess them in NJ without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. Here's the mind blower: You can buy one of those polymer80 spectre 80% glock-compatible frames, have it shipped to your house in NJ, buy all the rest of the parts necessary to complete it, travel over to PA or DE or another state that does not outlaw individual manufacture of firearms, finish milling/drilling out the frame, and then return to NJ with a legal, functional, semiautomatic centerfire handgun without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted July 25, 2017 You forgot inheritances Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted July 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, PK90 said: You forgot inheritances Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk Wasn't guaranteeing a comprehensive list of situations.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said: No "paper trail" needed for pistols legally acquired outside of NJ. You can move to NJ with your collection of pistols that you acquired while a resident of another state and continue to legally possess them in NJ without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. You can go to Cabela's in another state, buy a bb pistol or a black powder pistol (not regulated in other states but considered handguns in NJ), bring them back into NJ and legally possess them in NJ without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. Here's the mind blower: You can buy one of those polymer80 spectre 80% glock-compatible frames, have it shipped to your house in NJ, buy all the rest of the parts necessary to complete it, travel over to PA or DE or another state that does not outlaw individual manufacture of firearms, finish milling/drilling out the frame, and then return to NJ with a legal, functional handgun without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. yeah but what if that black powder pistol was traced back to manu date for whatever odd reason? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, myhatinthering said: yeah but what if that black powder pistol was traced back to manu date for whatever odd reason? ***WARNING***A lot of INAL inference following: I won't matter. It was still acquired legally in another state. It just so happens the other state doesn't classify black powder pistols as guns. Therefore making the purchase legal. Or I could be totally wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, WP22 said: ***WARNING***A lot of INAL inference following: I won't matter. It was still acquired legally in another state. It just so happens the other state doesn't classify black powder pistols as guns. Therefore making the purchase legal. Or I could be totally wrong. gotcha not a black powder fan but interesting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Family1st 20 Posted July 26, 2017 Lmao! [emoji16] Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 26, 2017 No "paper trail" needed for pistols legally acquired outside of NJ. You can move to NJ with your collection of pistols that you acquired while a resident of another state and continue to legally possess them in NJ without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. You can go to Cabela's in another state, buy a bb pistol or a black powder pistol (not regulated in other states but considered handguns in NJ), bring them back into NJ and legally possess them in NJ without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit. Here's the mind blower: You can buy one of those polymer80 spectre 80% glock-compatible frames, have it shipped to your house in NJ, buy all the rest of the parts necessary to complete it, travel over to PA or DE or another state that does not outlaw individual manufacture of firearms, finish milling/drilling out the frame, and then return to NJ with a legal, functional, semiautomatic centerfire handgun without even thinking about a NJ pistol permit.Ok, I'll bite. So, if I purchased a pellet gun (pistol style, single pump) from out of state, I can keep and legally use it in NJ?Do I need to be able to prove I purchased it from someone or somewhere? What if there was no paper trail?Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted July 26, 2017 3 hours ago, this_is_nascar said: Ok, I'll bite. So, if I purchased a pellet gun (pistol style, single pump) from out of state, I can keep and legally use it in NJ? Do I need to be able to prove I purchased it from someone or somewhere? What if there was no paper trail? Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk There are 1000s of handguns acquired legally in other states in NJ. If you acquired it legally you own it legally as has been said. If you transport and use it in accordance with NJ laws when you're in NJ there are no issues. No need to prove where or from whom you acquired it. Illegal possession of a handgun in NJ is when you're carrying outside of the scope of transportation laws without a permit, using it in a crime, or a prohibited person. If you don't do any of that it's legal. There is no paper trail for air guns or black powder guns acquired outside of NJ. The burden of proof is on the prosecution not the defendant anywhere in the US. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted July 26, 2017 ..Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 26, 2017 There are 1000s of handguns acquired legally in other states in NJ. If you acquired it legally you own it legally as has been said. If you transport and use it in accordance with NJ laws when you're in NJ there are no issues. No need to prove where or from whom you acquired it. Illegal possession of a handgun in NJ is when you're carrying outside of the scope of transportation laws without a permit, using it in a crime, or a prohibited person. If you don't do any of that it's legal. There is no paper trail for air guns or black powder guns acquired outside of NJ. The burden of proof is on the prosecution not the defendant anywhere in the US.Thanks. I appreciate the response.Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted July 27, 2017 Dang! I happen to have 2 BB rifles and a BB pistol that I would love to get rid of and walk away with $320 ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted July 27, 2017 Dang! I happen to have 2 BB rifles and a BB pistol that I would love to get rid of and walk away with $320 ...That was my intent .Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,129 Posted July 28, 2017 Regardless of what some nameless person told a caller on the phone when asked, under 2C:39-1f, BB rifles and pistols ARE considered firearms in this G-d forsaken state. " f. "Firearm" means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid projectable ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person. " So to paraphrase a well-hated Socialist Senator from Kalifornia: "Ladies and gentlemen, boy and girls, TURN THEM IN !!!!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites