amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 I caked Newark they said no I can't carry then I called east Newark and Harrison and they said that it's legal. So I called the TAG in Patterson they said yes. What do you guys know about this... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 19 Posted August 9, 2017 Do you have a carry permit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Do you have a carry permit?I have my PA carry license but I don't have a NJ permit. The ATE said I was covered under federal law and NJ hs211 or hs218Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 I ment ATFSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted August 9, 2017 Once you cross the Delaware, your PA LCTF is invalid. If you're transporting unloaded through NJ you're covered under FOPA. If you're going to a NJ gun range, you can go (with NJ legal firearms) and reasonable deviations (food/gas/bathroom/etc) Otherwise, nope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Once you cross the Delaware, your PA LCTF is invalid. If you're transporting unloaded through NJ you're covered under FOPA. If you're going to a NJ gun range, you can go (with NJ legal firearms) and reasonable deviations (food/gas/bathroom/etc) Otherwise, nope.So then ATF was wrongSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted August 9, 2017 BATF doesn't deal with local laws. They don't know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Okay good to know.. I don't get why the other 2 towns I'm going to be in said yesSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted August 9, 2017 Keep it at home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 9, 2017 If you should choose not to leave it home please let us know the out come. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 If you should choose not to leave it home please let us know the out come.Okay I shallSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, amanando7510 said: Okay I shall Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Look up Shaneen Allen. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 State Police said I can but I have to carry ball ammunition wtfSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using TapatalkOkay I willSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Okay I read that before I also read about a PA C/O who was carrying and got charged then his charges were dropped do to leosaSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted August 9, 2017 its not a hassle you want, stay in free america unless your coming to take out sweeny weinberg and murphy, then carry on 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Lol okSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 19 Posted August 9, 2017 "Carry" - no. Transport with limitations - yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 "Carry" - no. Transport with limitations - yes.OkSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using TapatalkCommunist even for Leo's wtfSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, amanando7510 said: Okay I read that before I also read about a PA C/O who was carrying and got charged then his charges were dropped do to leosa Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk The PA corrections officer who got the charges dropped had nothing to do with LEOSA. The PA corrections officer was not qualified to carry under LEOSA. Your PA carry permit is worthless in NJ and has nothing to do with LEOSA. NJ corrections officers are covered under LEOSA. Where do you work and what do you do? Do you qualify under LEOSA? Do you carry at work? Do you have police powers Can you carry off duty by statute or do you need a carry permit? Can you make arrests? These are some of the qualifiers. NJ says if you're carrying under LEOSA you can't carry hollowpoints. Total contradiction of the federal law which says you can. Guess who wins? Answer my questions and I might be able to help you. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 The PA corrections officer who got the charges dropped had nothing to do with LEOSA. The PA corrections officer was not qualified to carry under LEOSA. Your PA carry permit is worthless in NJ and has nothing to do with LEOSA. NJ corrections officers are covered under LEOSA. Where do you work and what do you do? Do you qualify under LEOSA? Do you carry at work? Do you have police powers Can you carry off duty by statute or do you need a carry permit? Can you make arrests? These are some of the qualifiers. NJ says if you're carrying under LEOSA you can't carry hollowpoints. Total contradiction of the federal law which says you can. Guess who wins? Answer my questions and I might be able to help you.We carry when we do perimeter check or transports ECT. Inside no one is allowed to carry. I've carried off duty since before I got my ltcf never had an issue Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Thank you all for the helpSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 9, 2017 52 minutes ago, amanando7510 said: We carry when we do perimeter check or transports ECT. Inside no one is allowed to carry. I've carried off duty since before I got my ltcf never had an issue Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Your LTCF has nothing to do with LEOSA. If you don't have authority to make arrests you can't carry under LEOSA. That's a simplification. You need to Google and read LEOSA to see if you qualify. From what you told me you don't . The places you called and said you could carry were probably thinking you had the same authority as NJ and NY corrections officers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanando7510 0 Posted August 9, 2017 Your LTCF has nothing to do with LEOSA. If you don't have authority to make arrests you can't carry under LEOSA. That's a simplification. You need to Google and read LEOSA to see if you qualify. From what you told me you don't . The places you called and said you could carry were probably thinking you had the same authority as NJ and NY corrections officers.Ok thank you for the clarification Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted August 19, 2017 Oh boy. Amando, you need to talk to someone in the know in your chain of command and possibly an attorney your agency uses. Don't make decisions that can affect your career and freedom based on info you receive online or from agencies outside your state that don't know you or your job. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted August 19, 2017 54 minutes ago, High Exposure said: Oh boy. Amando, you need to talk to someone in the know in your chain of command and possibly an attorney your agency uses. Don't make decisions that can affect your career and freedom based on info you receive online or from agencies outside your state that don't know you or your job. ^^^^^^ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted August 19, 2017 Just stay in PA. NJ sucks anyway. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted August 20, 2017 It's like pulling teeth to get to the real set of questions. GRIZ for the WIN! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites