vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 16, 2017 As some of you are aware my Saiga 12 was stolen.. Well good news.. I don't have the gun in hand yet.. but it was recovered, and shipped up to the police in PA.. I am going to pick it up Sunday. As far as I know it is untouched and in the same condition as when I sent it.. I do not know the complete details, but I will tell you what I know.. I sent the gun to Jack Travers to have a magazine well installed.. At some point he pawned the gun Some time after that he ended up having "medical issues" and is now so bad off he is not in a position to be prosecuted Some time after that the sheriffs department in his area was able to recover the gun and shipped it to a PD in PA for return There are tons of other sketchy details.. but they are for the most part hearsay, and I am not interested in relaying things I can not confirm.. I am only putting his name out there so that IF he recovers.. people know what I just went through.. several months of waiting.. a bunch of wasted money.. only to basically have it stolen.. There were a lot of locals that I reached out to that helped me a ton.. along with the sheriffs department.. I met a lot of good people.. that helped fix a real bad situation.. I am very appreciative to have my gun back to me.. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted September 16, 2017 That's what you get for living in a free state and having cool shit while posting it on njgf.....Just kidding, I've had to deal with lost firearms and it freaking sucks man I feel you Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted September 16, 2017 Was it an honest mistake or something more unsavory? I'm glad you got it back. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 16, 2017 49 minutes ago, ChrisJM981 said: Was it an honest mistake or something more unsavory? I'm glad you got it back. the ONLY mistake was sending him the gun.. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted September 16, 2017 [emoji106] Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted September 16, 2017 Glad you got it back Vlad. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted September 16, 2017 I'm glad this whole mess has been resolved for you. What a nightmare. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charleslee 44 Posted September 16, 2017 Also glad you got it back! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted September 16, 2017 Glad u are whole again & the LEO did their work. (A guy in FNF had his SCAR17 stolen while in transit back to FNH, his plight has fallen on deaf ears.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted September 16, 2017 That Sucks.. glad it found its way back in one piece.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted September 16, 2017 20 hours ago, vladtepes said: ...is now so bad off he is not in a position to be prosecuted 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted September 16, 2017 20 hours ago, vladtepes said: There were a lot of locals that I reached out to that helped me a ton.. along with the sheriffs department.. I met a lot of good people.. that helped fix a real bad situation.. So on the downside, you lost faith in one person. On the upside, you gained faith in several others. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, AlexTheSane said: So on the downside, you lost faith in one person. On the upside, you gained faith in several others. that is a fair assessment.. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 18, 2017 gun is officially home 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,871 Posted September 18, 2017 12 hours ago, vladtepes said: gun is officially home Condition? As it was? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 19, 2017 12 hours ago, Krdshrk said: Condition? As it was? yup totally untouched.. I don't think that the gun was ever even fired.. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,258 Posted September 19, 2017 glad it's home. in cases like these....what happens to the pawn shop that bought it? what happens to the customer that may have bought it from the pawn shop? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: glad it's home. in cases like these....what happens to the pawn shop that bought it? what happens to the customer that may have bought it from the pawn shop? The pawn shop and end purchaser could go after the guy that pawned it on a civil level to try to recover the money lost. But in this case the guy is in really bad health, possibly dying.. and doesn't have a cent to his name.. so even if a judgment was awarded the people that sued wouldn't get a dime.. to put it in perspective the scumbag pawned my gun for $250, actually he pawned it not sold it.. so the pawnshop isn't out a dime.. because that would have had to of been paid when the gun was picked up out of pawn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted September 19, 2017 The Pawn Shop would have paid the $250 to the guy when he pawned it, so they would be out the money? Or did you pay it to get your gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 20, 2017 11 hours ago, PK90 said: The Pawn Shop would have paid the $250 to the guy when he pawned it, so they would be out the money? Or did you pay it to get your gun? The FFL pawned the gun for $250 so at that point they had the gun and FFL had $250 FFL then gave (sold?) the pawn ticket to another person "person x" Person X then took the ticket to the shop and picked up the gun, at which point he would have had to give the $250 back to the shop to get the gun out of pawn So at the end of this transaction person X is out whatever he paid the FFL for the ticket (if anything), and the $250 he gave the shop to get the gun out of pawn. the whole situation is literally as shady as possible Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted September 20, 2017 I thought bank finance was hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites