tattooo 220 Posted September 22, 2017 [mention=8969]Mrs.Zeke[/mention] is on her own... I don't wanna know nuffin.... And I ain't cleaning it nietherCmon, they are simple to clean...lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted September 22, 2017 12 hours ago, W2MC said: Hey! I love mine! (the older ones) (actually an Xpert 96, but the same thing w/o the scrollwork-made by Olin-Kodensha in the late 70s - early 80s) But, then again, I am not particularly recoil-shy. Nothing wrong with thumpers but he is looking for a gun for his wife to use. I'm not recoil sensitive either but last winter I had a chance to shoot an older one and my FN made one side by side. My FN made one was noticeably less recoil with the same ammunition. I was surprised by how noticeable it was. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted September 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, fishnut said: Nothing wrong with thumpers but he is looking for a gun for his wife to use. I'm not recoil sensitive either but last winter I had a chance to shoot an older one and my FN made one side by side. My FN made one was noticeably less recoil with the same ammunition. I was surprised by how noticeable it was. The older Olin-Kodensha were without choke tubes, barrels were thinner, gun was a bit lighter. Gun was well-balanced and these are nice examples for a quality O/U. FN guns made today are a little heavier, but solid guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Parker said: The older Olin-Kodensha were without choke tubes, barrels were thinner, gun was a bit lighter. Gun was well-balanced and these are nice examples for a quality O/U. FN guns made today are a little heavier, but solid guns. Also FN lengthened the forcing cones in an attempt to reduce recoil a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Parker said: The older Olin-Kodensha were without choke tubes, barrels were thinner, gun was a bit lighter. Gun was well-balanced and these are nice examples for a quality O/U. FN guns made today are a little heavier, but solid guns. Surprising (the lighter part). between my 96 and a beretta 686, I thought the beretta was the lighter gun. An almost new Remington Peerless just popped-up on the NJ hunter board. http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/forums/82-classifieds-free/286458-remington-peerless-12-ga-over-under-shotgun.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted September 22, 2017 4 hours ago, fishnut said: Nothing wrong with thumpers but he is looking for a gun for his wife to use. I'm not recoil sensitive either but last winter I had a chance to shoot an older one and my FN made one side by side. My FN made one was noticeably less recoil with the same ammunition. I was surprised by how noticeable it was. Also why a gas autoloader (like the S&W 1000) might be a better choice for a 12 gauge for mrs peel..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted September 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, W2MC said: Also why a gas autoloader (like the S&W 1000) might be a better choice for a 12 gauge for mrs peel..... Yeah my Remington 11-87 is the softest shooting 12ga I have... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,148 Posted September 22, 2017 2 hours ago, W2MC said: Also why a gas autoloader (like the S&W 1000) might be a better choice for a 12 gauge for mrs peel..... It's @Mrs.Zeke who's in the market, not me! She is a far better shot than me. I'd have to hit a heck of a lot more clays... an build up my arm strength... before I'd even consider plunking down money on a shotgun! I simply miss too many clays, LOL... need more "shotgun shootouts", I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted September 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said: It's @Mrs.Zeke who's in the market, not me! She is a far better shot than me. I'd have to hit a heck of a lot more clays... an build up my arm strength... before I'd even consider plunking down money on a shotgun! I simply miss too many clays, LOL... need more "shotgun shootouts", I guess. But if you buy your own and practice a bit you can come to the next shotgun shoot out and impress everyone Jus sayen 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted September 22, 2017 Yep! You can only get better with practice! I'm actually fairly out of practice... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Krdshrk said: Yeah my Remington 11-87 is the softest shooting 12ga I have... ^^^^THIS^^^^ 11-87 Youth Models often fit women. A Monmouth Co. R&P Club member bought herself one to shoot their bowling pin competitions with years ago. She held her own competing in their USPSA league back then with her handgun(s). Her 20 ga. Youth fit her like a glove, never gave her a bruise, and fed low-brass birdshot all day long (#4's or larger shot were required by the club for bowling pins). Gas operation is the only way to fly if you have a shooter that's both recoil sensitive and tends to complain that guns are "heavy". A heavy gun recoils less, but can cause a weight sensitive shooter to spasm if the heavy gun is held too long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, W2MC said: Also why a gas autoloader (like the S&W 1000) might be a better choice for a 12 gauge for mrs peel..... @Mrs.Zeke has a 20gauuge 11/87 currently. Says it's too heavy. Lop may to much also.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted September 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Zeke said: @Mrs.Zeke has a 20gauuge 11/87 currently. Says it's too heavy. Lop may to much also.. Go for a Yout model... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Krdshrk said: Go for a Yout model... She shot @Displaced Texan browning citori all day, I mean all day. Loved it so much she tried to leave him there after his shottie was loaded in our rig. guys, recoil is not a factor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 19 hours ago, tattooo said: Cmon, they are simple to clean...lol I didn't soil it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 8 hours ago, fishnut said: Nothing wrong with thumpers but he is looking for a gun for his wife to use. I'm not recoil sensitive either but last winter I had a chance to shoot an older one and my FN made one side by side. My FN made one was noticeably less recoil with the same ammunition. I was surprised by how noticeable it was. I'm jus looking for lower priced alternatives to recommend. She has her own card.... Soooo my friends for my sake, let's think best value.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeletePLS 178 Posted September 22, 2017 25 minutes ago, Zeke said: I'm jus looking for lower priced alternatives to recommend. She has her own card.... Soooo my friends for my sake, let's think best value.... Dude Citori best value buy once cry once. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, cabalrayz said: Dude Citori best value buy once cry once. You are; not helpful. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted September 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zeke said: You are; not helpful. Lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted September 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, Zeke said: I'm jus looking for lower priced alternatives to recommend. She has her own card.... Soooo my friends for my sake, let's think best value.... Used market is your friend. My buddy got an older well used but not abused citori for 800 bucks. Check out older skb or pretty much anything elce made in Miroku Japan if your ok with fixed chokes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted September 22, 2017 Yep a used Citori is the way to go. Awesome little shotgun. Buy once... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 538 Posted September 22, 2017 I bought my wife the Franchi Catalyst Instinct after much research. Pretty nice gun for 1200 or so. Specifically designed for women. http://www.franchiusa.com/instinct-catalyst-shotgun 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Krdshrk said: How's that battery working out fur ya ace? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted September 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Zeke said: How's that battery working out fur ya ace? It broke my thrower 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Tunaman said: I bought my wife the Franchi Catalyst Instinct after much research. Pretty nice gun for 1200 or so. Specifically designed for women. http://www.franchiusa.com/instinct-catalyst-shotgun Looking in 20 g how does your wife like it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 538 Posted September 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Zeke said: Looking in 20 g how does your wife like it? To be honest, she will be firing it for the first time on OCT 20th at the Gun for Hire Gold member trap shooting event. Any one who wants to go can come as my guest for 100 bucks for the day. All the free shotgun shells, claybirds, and food. This is a really good fun day. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 538 Posted September 23, 2017 I also bought her a case of those low recoil AA shells. She will be happy camper after she fires a few of those. Women can shoot them all day...they are very soft shooting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 23, 2017 I didn't soil it. Fair point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted September 23, 2017 Regarding "it's too heavy". If this is for clay sports you're only holding the gun for 3 seconds at a time. Between shots waiting for your turn you are resting your barrel on the pad. its 95% waiting your turn 5% shouldering it. Maybe atshootup meet ups people are holding the gun in their hands all the time to not offend the loaner. i see guys with $7k guns resting on the pads. rest. Relax Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JD1037 125 Posted September 24, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 9:28 PM, Zeke said: No, no, no, no., no Looks like this is at a gun shop.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites